# Roseanne Part Two? No Thank You **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 24, 2018, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120 "2018-03-24T18:03:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120/261 "2018-05-30T14:09:31Z")
While I don’t especially buy the Ambien excuse, it was hilarious to read a screed posted elsewhere last night where the forum poster was saying the _Planet of the Apes_ reference was actually about the dystopian world and its reflection on the ideologies of Jarrett and True Conservatives understood its deeply layered meta-context while only liberals rushed to call racism. Now imagine that stretched into ten paragraphs. So then this morning, after all that work to try to convince the world how insightful and nuanced Barr was being, we get “I was fucked up on Ambien”. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120/262 "2018-05-30T14:12:18Z")
It’s possible she gets another show but not right away. Don Imus got fired from his radio show for his “nappy headed women” talk and was back on the air less than a year later. He just retired a few months ago. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120/263 "2018-05-30T14:50:55Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > No, no. I’m sure if you read closely, it’s there in the list of side effects alongside constipation and dry mouth. It causes constipation _and_ Twitterrhea? ---
**Author:** ![Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disgruntled_Penguin)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120/264 "2018-05-30T14:59:24Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > It causes constipation _and_ Twitterrhea? Maybe, but the Ambien makers reply on the side effects.: > [@](#): > > “People of all races, religions and nationalities work at Sanofi every day to improve the lives of people around the world. While all pharmaceutical treatments have side effects, racism is not a known side effect of any Sanofi medication.” ---
**Author:** ![Drum\_God](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drum_god/32/44_2.png) [@Drum\_God](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drum_God)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120/265 "2018-05-30T15:08:40Z")
So, next time I do something stupid, I’ll say that I was taking Ambien. Think that’ll fly? ---
**Author:** ![salinqmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@salinqmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120/266 "2018-05-30T16:03:26Z")
My thought is that something like Fox will snap her right up. Put her in a realistic show where Dan drops dead because he can’t afford medication, her gay grandson gets his teeth kicked out when he shows up at school in a pink spring frock, and here black grand daughter gets beaten up by Nazis. She is free, free to leave Lanford and go back to Denver (where she actually came from IRL). She meets Tim Allen, ‘Last Dick Standing’, they hook up, move into a prepper cave and organize tRump rallies. What could go wrong? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120/267 "2018-05-30T17:21:28Z")
She’s from Salt Lake City, not Denver (and is Jewish, not Mormon). That location works better for the prepper stuff anyway. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120/268 "2018-05-30T17:22:22Z")
> [@Drum\_God](#): > > So, next time I do something stupid, I’ll say that I was taking Ambien. Think that’ll fly? Ask your doctor if blaming your racism on Ambien is right for you. (not to imply that you’re racist, I’m just dreaming up a new ad for them) ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120/269 "2018-05-30T17:32:50Z")
It’s too bad. They were doing decent on the reboot. Contrary to what most people here assumed was happening, it wasn’t remotely a Trump love fest and did a good job at capturing the feel of the first run. ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120/270 "2018-05-30T17:53:19Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > Though in that sense one can see how for the networks and the “creatives”, trying to create a show humanizing the Flyover-White-Working-Class MAGA demographic from scratch would be painful and the product not feel genuine (and many in their community would ask _“Why would you want to do THAT?? You’re NORMALIZING!!!”_), unless they were able to reach for an already well established tried and tested canon: Roseanne. A familiar, reasonably well received pre-created universe where you can see how plausibly people like the Connors who are essentially good-hearted could be led to become modern-day Trump voters. There’s also “One Day at a Time” “Speechless” “Mom” & “Superstore” ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120/271 "2018-05-30T18:02:45Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Well, him and Laurie Metcalf. She was Oscar-nominated for her role in Lady Bird last year and she was on Broadway in Three Tall Women recently. And she won a Tony last year for **A Doll’s House, Part Two**. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120/272 "2018-05-30T18:06:27Z")
Roseanne is now trying to claim she didn’t know Valerie Jarrett is black. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120/273 "2018-05-30T18:19:40Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > It’s possible she gets another show but not right away. Don Imus got fired from his radio show for his “nappy headed women” talk and was back on the air less than a year later. He just retired a few months ago. The trouble is that Roseanne has been super-nuts for years, and everyone knows it. She’s not going to “get” another show, because there’s no telling what she might do. I was surprised that this project lasted as long as it did, because Roseanne could have blown the whole thing up at any time. And I’m not just talking about saying stupid things in the media. ---
**Author:** ![GreenWyvern](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greenwyvern/32/2834_2.png) [@GreenWyvern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreenWyvern)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120/274 "2018-05-30T18:24:59Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Roseanne is now trying to claim she didn’t know Valerie Jarrett is black. She says she thought Valerie Jarrett was Jewish… …because, if she was Jewish then it would be perfectly okay to call her the offspring of the Muslim Brotherhood and an ape. That wouldn’t be racist, or antisemitic, or hate speech at all… :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120/275 "2018-05-30T18:27:48Z")
The statement from Sanofi (the makers of Ambien) was pretty funny, saying, in effect, “We are _not_ taking the blame for this one.” Plus she said she had taken Ambien and was up at 2am tweeting. Wouldn’t that mean the Ambien _wasn’t working_? Wonder if that suggestion pissed them off too. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120/276 "2018-05-30T18:30:01Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > She’s from Salt Lake City, not Denver (and is Jewish, not Mormon). That location works better for the prepper stuff anyway. Yes, but she was a resident of Colorado when she began doing standup. ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120/277 "2018-05-30T19:13:48Z")
> [@salinqmind](#): > > My thought is that something like Fox will snap her right up. Put her in a realistic show where Dan drops dead because he can’t afford medication, her gay grandson gets his teeth kicked out when he shows up at school in a pink spring frock, and here black grand daughter gets beaten up by Nazis. She is free, free to leave Lanford and go back to Denver (where she actually came from IRL). She meets Tim Allen, ‘Last Dick Standing’, they hook up, move into a prepper cave and organize tRump rallies. What could go wrong? Right, because that’s just of the kind of show Fox likes - er, we are talking about the Fox where four of its top shows either feature predominantly black casts (Empire, Star) or liberal viewpoints (The Simpsons, Family Guy), right? ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120/278 "2018-05-30T19:33:45Z")
> [@GreenWyvern](#): > > She says she thought Valerie Jarrett was Jewish… > > …because, if she was Jewish then it would be perfectly okay to call her the offspring of the Muslim Brotherhood and an ape. That wouldn’t be racist, or antisemitic, or hate speech at all… :dubious: Jarrett was born in Iran, what more do you need to know? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120/279 "2018-05-30T19:47:56Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Ask your doctor if blaming your racism on Ambien is right for you. (not to imply that you’re racist, I’m just dreaming up a new ad for them) If your racism persists for 4 hours after taking ambient, consult your physician. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120/280 "2018-05-30T19:52:35Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > If your racism persists for 4 hours after taking ambient, consult your physician. Actress Meredith Salenger posted a series of tweets last night about having taken Ambien and was waiting to see if it caused her to tweet racist things. At the end, she said that she had eaten two Twinkies. And Hostess replied to her that they didn’t blame her. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/roseanne-part-two-no-thank-you/811120.md?page=15)