I was actually in Roswell, NM, years ago…I was on my way from Carlsbad caverns to Amarillo TX. Roswell is a pretty remote place…does it benefit from the UFO nuts? Do they have a “UFO” Festival (complete with crowning a “UFO Queeen”)?
There seems to be a UFO museum in town…is there anything there?
As I say, its hard for me to imagine people flocking to such a remote place…especially if all you get to see are newspaper clippings (and 1920’s DEATH RAYS)!
Yes, the town of Roswell gets some benefit from the myth. There is the famous “museum” in the middle of town, and there is a UFO festival of some sort in the summer (I’ve seen it on TV while I was in the nearby town of Ruidoso).
Also, every billboard around town has some kind of alien motif. The western wear store across the street from the museum has drawings in its plate glass windows of a big green guy in a hat and cowboy boots. It seems you can’t open up a business in Roswell unless you’re going to fit aliens in the name or signage.
Exactly.
I believe that there very well might be Life somewhere else. I also believe that UFO’s are real.
Remember, UFO means Unidentified Flying Object. It does not mean Alien Spacecraft. Those who automatically connect the two are seeing what they want to see.
I’m not sure exactly what crashed at Roswell, but Secret Government tech would be higher on my list of possibilities then Alien Spacecraft.
As I have admitted before, I have seen a UFO. Personally I think it was a meteorite coming down fairly close, but since I never bothered reporting it, or seeing if anything showed up, I can not be certain it was a meteorite…it is still after 23 years unidentified Really pisses people off when I tell them I have seen a UFO, and that I was pretty sure it was a meteorite hitting ground close by=) Sucks to be them=)
I think the Roswell worship shows the inherant bankruptcy of the entire UFO ‘movement’. Remember when computer photo manipulation came into infancy? Many skeptics were expressing concern that UFO photos would flourish and beleivers would dance naked around photos that had been modified via Photoshop 1.0.
It turned out to be the other way. Cheesy faked photos, long a staple of UFO nuts, suddenly became worthless. What the hell good is that photo on your desktop of an alleged ‘UFO’ when there twenty such pics on Photoshop Friday that are fifty times better?
The advent of video cameras also struck a death knell. You’d think that as video cameras became so common that nearly every house had one, UFOs would show up in more videos. Well, a few oddball things do show up in those videos now and then, but most of them easily explained by opto-mechanics.
So what do UFO fans do? They go running back to the security of their 40-50 year old cases. No physical evidence? So much the better! That way there’s nothing to be disproven. You can’t relive the past, so you can always tell someone who doubts the events that ‘they weren’t there’. You weren’t either of course, but that’s what faith is all about.
Lets presume that Roswell was the real thing and has been kept in top secrecy by the Air Force or our military.
Lets further presume that we have UFO’s that are also top secret.
Top secret or whatever category is higher means just that: secret.
If we knew the details it would no longer be secret.
I thhink it is truly pathetic when somebody spends a vacation going to a dump like Roswell , to see essentially nothing. Just about everybody who worked on Project Mogul is either dead or in a nursing home, so count on more crap being written about the crased weather balloons.
Anyway, as for the so called “alien corpses”-I once read that the Air Force was testing the survivability of jet pilots who ejected from their planes at high speed. the AF tried using dummies in ejection seats, which were dropped from high altitude ballons…anybody know more about this?
I assume that some rancher who came across such a dummy in the desert, surrounded by a parachute,might well think he had stumbled across an alien corpse.
But I can’t see a pathology lab dissecting a dummy!
BUT…There was an Alien Autopsy! And it was on TV! AND WHY DO YOU HATE AMERICA?!
The Air Force’s report, which they admit is speculation (albeit, well founded speculation) is based on the idea that several mundane incidents in the desert have been combined by poor memories of people who were youngsters at the time of the Mogul crash. The ‘UFO’ was of course the baloon, and all the physcial evidence points to either it being a balloon, or a UFO made of sticks, tape and aluminized rubber. The guy who found the material was allegedly hauled off by the Air Force, for what could have been very mundane reasons (either to interrogate him about the balloon, or, more sinisterly, he was hiding parts in hopes of gettin’ some cash from the gov’ment. This happens more than some would like to think.)
The ‘alien’ bodies are speculated as being test dummies. Although this was not happening at the same time as Mogul, the fact remains that those who are claiming it to be aliens were youngsters at the time and memories that are 40 years old and from childhood aren’t gonna be fresh. Under the right lighting (i.e. poor, or 1940’s headlight) such dummies would look fairly alien.
Much is made by Roswell proponents of a handful of documents they claim pertain to the UFO and all the research (alien aitopsy included). This is actually the claim that makes the Roswell incident so pathetic. Phillip Klass noted that the claims were for a handful of documents that would have resulted in about 2 pages of documents being produced, per year on what they had learned about the UFO.
Now folks, think about it. This is the US military. The US military can’t drive a convoy of rocks from one side of a small state to the other without a few dozen pieces of paperwork, preferably in triplicate. Yet somehow special doctors were brought in to perform and autopsy, President TRuman was breifed, alien technology was studied and broken down into miracle products (some claim the transistor came from Roswell…Pwah!) with only 2 pages of paperwork per year?
As mentioned above, the Air Force report is speculation, but when the entire retort to said specualtion is “Oh yeah?? Welll…you’re the government! Of course you’d lie!”, then the whoe Roswell case starts to look mighty thin.
I admit that I’d be the first to say that yes, governments can lie, but there’s usually evidence that they did. We do know the government ‘lied’ about Roswell being a weather balloon, but they had a real reason: Hiding a top secret project. Since that time the only ‘evidence’ produced about a Roswell UFO has been a bunch of ‘recollections’ from those who were alleged to be there and were children at the time. Looking at the history of those pushing the Roswell UFO agenda, we caan see where the real liars are: Faked alien autopsy, faked MJ-12 papers, faked accounts by ‘participants’, faked accounts of ‘witnesses’. Kinda makes the government look honest by comparison.
But don’t you see, that is also part of the coverup the conspiracists theory anyway. Disinformation and implanting clearly false evidence to discredit witnesses, taint the facts, and thus hide the truth.
There are some members (they) of this board that are here for the sole purpose of silencing and/or discrediting members and the information posted.
I’m kidding okay…(they) don’t have a cow and start stalking me now 
Yeah!
You don’t see Contestant #3 around these boards discussing this stuff any more, do you?
Was it because he was asking … inconvenient questions?
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