# ROTK DVD Extended Version To Be 5 Hours Long?

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**Created:** [January 22, 2004, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rotk-dvd-extended-version-to-be-5-hours-long/225565 "2004-01-22T02:51:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2004, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rotk-dvd-extended-version-to-be-5-hours-long/225565/1 "2004-01-22T02:51:01Z")

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I did a Google search a couple of days ago to find out when the DVD is coming out (August) and stumbled on a message board here: [http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=6337](http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=6337)  
where people were discussing the DVD.

5 hours? I _know_ PJ is restoring some cut Saruman footage, but does anyone know what else is going in?

Thanks

Q

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**Author:** ![BuckleberryFerry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5f9b8f/32.png) [@BuckleberryFerry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BuckleberryFerry)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2004, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rotk-dvd-extended-version-to-be-5-hours-long/225565/2 "2004-01-22T03:39:41Z")

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::insert fangirl scream plus the name of the hobbit of your choosing here::

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2004, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rotk-dvd-extended-version-to-be-5-hours-long/225565/3 "2004-01-22T03:42:15Z")

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I think he’ll put in the footage of Arnold Schwarzenegger fighting with the T1000.

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**Author:** ![Astra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@Astra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astra)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2004, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rotk-dvd-extended-version-to-be-5-hours-long/225565/4 "2004-01-22T03:46:28Z")

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I think the Houses of Healing segments were filmed and are going to be added.

Probably some more elf porn, too.

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2004, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rotk-dvd-extended-version-to-be-5-hours-long/225565/5 "2004-01-22T03:47:34Z")

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And probably another dozen endings or so.

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2004, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rotk-dvd-extended-version-to-be-5-hours-long/225565/6 "2004-01-22T03:49:50Z")

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[Theonering.net](http://Theonering.net) originally posted a report that PJ said the movie would be 4 hours, 50 minutes long, but it turns out the reporter who asked PJ misheard him. Apparently PJ really said 4 hours, _15_ minutes instead.

[Aintitcoolnews.com](http://Aintitcoolnews.com) ran [this](http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=16689) about a month ago. Scroll down just a little bit to see what they’ve heard will be added to the EE. I think the first rumor has no basis whatsoever, and that it was just started by someone who wanted to get the fans worked up. The rest of it sounds pretty good though.

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2004, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rotk-dvd-extended-version-to-be-5-hours-long/225565/7 "2004-01-22T03:50:25Z")

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On a more sensible note - the Scouring of the shire seems an obvious choice for inclusion.

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**Author:** ![terd\_ferguson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@terd\_ferguson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terd_ferguson)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2004, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rotk-dvd-extended-version-to-be-5-hours-long/225565/8 "2004-01-22T03:55:06Z")

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Well I obviously haven’t heard anything, but there are a couple scenes that I can guess will probably be in it. The scene from the Houses of the Healing were left out, and were kind of important in the book. And also, when Aragorn and Gandalf and the lot get to Mordor there should be a little scene added with the Mouth of Sauron when guy comes out and says they have captured their hobbit and has his clothes and all. There was a character listed for Mouth on [imdb.com](http://imdb.com) before the film was released, so I think at least those two are a good bet. Oh, and there will probably be more buildup between Faramir and Eowyn.

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2004, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rotk-dvd-extended-version-to-be-5-hours-long/225565/9 "2004-01-22T03:56:15Z")

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> [@Lobsang](#):
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> On a more sensible note - the Scouring of the shire seems an obvious choice for inclusion.

::le sigh:: If only it were filmed.

It wasn’t was it? If it was, I have a new reason for living.

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**Author:** ![Soapbox\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Soapbox\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soapbox_Monkey)\
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> [@Lobsang](#):
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> On a more sensible note - the Scouring of the shire seems an obvious choice for inclusion.

No, sorry. It was never filmed. ☹

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**Author:** ![terd\_ferguson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@terd\_ferguson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terd_ferguson)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2004, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rotk-dvd-extended-version-to-be-5-hours-long/225565/11 "2004-01-22T03:59:43Z")

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Peter Jackson said in the commentary on the first dvd that they didn’t do the scouring scene. He also said that when Frodo looks into Galadrial’s little tub of water that that scene was his tribute to the scouring. So, yeah, that unfortunately will not be included.

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2004, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rotk-dvd-extended-version-to-be-5-hours-long/225565/12 "2004-01-22T04:06:17Z")

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Things supposedly in the ROTK: EE–  
Mouth of Sauron  
Houses of Healing  
Gandalf vs the Witch King  
Eomer reacting to Theoden’s death and Eowyn’s injury  
Aragorn taunting Sauron via the Palantir  
Denethor looking into the Palantir and seeing his doom  
Merry pledging fealty to King Theoden  
Saruman’s death

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2004, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rotk-dvd-extended-version-to-be-5-hours-long/225565/13 "2004-01-22T06:33:20Z")

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There probably will be additional scenes for the Paths of the Dead too. This much I gleaned from the Return of the King video game.

There’s probably be some extenison of the footage at the Black Gate. In the movie, there’s a big plot contiunity loophole where Aragorn and co. started out on horseback but then were fighting unhorsed the next moment.

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2004, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rotk-dvd-extended-version-to-be-5-hours-long/225565/14 "2004-01-22T06:55:46Z")

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I’m hoping they show more of Frodo and Sam trekking across Mordor. In the movie, they go from their Gonzo orc helmets to regular clothes. I hope they show them running with the orcs.

_Where there’s a whip, there is a way…_

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> [@HubZilla](#):
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> I’m hoping they show more of Frodo and Sam trekking across Mordor. In the movie, they go from their Gonzo orc helmets to regular clothes. I hope they show them running with the orcs.
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> _Where there’s a whip, there is a way…_

I do remember that PJ did film how Frodo and Sam got mistaken for a couple of Orcs and were made to march a long way. (Yes, it’s in that part of the book where the famed “When there’s a whip, there’s a way!” song comes from).

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2004, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rotk-dvd-extended-version-to-be-5-hours-long/225565/16 "2004-01-22T07:22:02Z")

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I just hope they include Legolas and Gimli’s ending, and Faramir and Eowyn’s ending.

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2004, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rotk-dvd-extended-version-to-be-5-hours-long/225565/17 "2004-01-22T07:34:37Z")

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5 hours? Hell, I thought PJ could’ve cut at least 30 min from the theater release, probably more, starting by cutting the 50+ endings that never ended.

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**Post date:** [January 22, 2004, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rotk-dvd-extended-version-to-be-5-hours-long/225565/18 "2004-01-22T07:40:43Z")

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Heck, shots from these scenes were _in the ROTK trailer_:  
Gandalf vs the Witch King  
Eomer reacting to Theoden’s death and Eowyn’s injury

And I recall seeing a shot of this way back in the FOTR non-EE DVD documentaries:  
Merry pledging fealty to King Theoden
