# Rousing speechess of heroism (sorry, Aquaman).

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**Created:** [December 19, 2019, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rousing-speechess-of-heroism-sorry-aquaman/845096 "2019-12-19T17:42:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![Alpha\_Twit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alpha_twit/32/265_2.png) [@Alpha\_Twit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alpha_Twit)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rousing-speechess-of-heroism-sorry-aquaman/845096/21 "2019-12-19T19:43:50Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I preferred his [“We’re mutts”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXjqTyQuq4w) speech from _Stripes_.

+1

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**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\
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“All right, you ragtag bunch of misfits! You hate me, and I hate you even more. But without my beloved ringers, you’re all I’ve got. So I want you to remember some inspiring words that someone else might have told you over the course of your lives, and go out there and win!”

- Mister Burns, to his softball team in _The Simpsons_, episode “Homer at the Bat.”

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rousing-speechess-of-heroism-sorry-aquaman/845096/23 "2019-12-19T20:08:58Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Sorry. I didn’t think I needed to identify it. It’s literally the most popular movie in history and it only came out eight months ago.
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> It’s Captain America’s speech from _Avengers: Endgame_. The other line is Rocket’s response to the speech.

I don’t go to superhero movies anymore. True, there are accessibility accommodations made for the blind in mini theaters, but frankly I find having the spectacular exploits of Thor or Spider-Man described when I can’t really see them makes the experience worse, not better.

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**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rousing-speechess-of-heroism-sorry-aquaman/845096/24 "2019-12-19T20:48:52Z")

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While not exactly what the OP had in mind, Angel’s “Epiphany” speech comes to mind.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/2gXaMnkmGq0/hqdefault.jpg "Angel's Epiphany Speech") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gXaMnkmGq0)

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**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rousing-speechess-of-heroism-sorry-aquaman/845096/25 "2019-12-19T20:59:30Z")

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[Jeff Winger](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCMiWLPSB3g).

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rousing-speechess-of-heroism-sorry-aquaman/845096/26 "2019-12-19T21:04:10Z")

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[quote=“E-DUB, post:24, topic:845096”]

While not exactly what the OP had in mind, Angel’s “Epiphany” speech comes to mind.

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I doubt will find any peer examples of this sort of speech in the works of Joss Whedon. There are bad ass boasts a plenty, but with this kind of thing, Whedon generally prefers to subvert expectations.

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**Author:** ![Patch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Patch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patch)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rousing-speechess-of-heroism-sorry-aquaman/845096/27 "2019-12-19T21:10:55Z")

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I rather liked Jyn’s speech as the rebels landed on Scarif.

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> Saw Gerrera used to say one fighter with a sharp stick and nothing left to lose can take the day. They’ve no idea we’re coming. They’ve no reason to expect us. If we can make it to the ground, we’ll take the next chance. And the next. On and on until we win or the chances are spent.

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rousing-speechess-of-heroism-sorry-aquaman/845096/28 "2019-12-19T21:15:21Z")

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[Matt Damon’s Miller in Green Zone](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHC_Aoh0hlc)

[spoiler]Hey, Chief, how do we know this guy isn’t leading us into a fucking ambush?

We don’t. Get your fucking game face on.[/spoiler]

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**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rousing-speechess-of-heroism-sorry-aquaman/845096/29 "2019-12-19T21:39:50Z")

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Colonel Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain, in _Gettysburg_:

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> I’ve been ordered to take you men with me, I’m told that if you don’t come I can shoot you. Well, you know I won’t do that. Maybe somebody else will, but I won’t, so that’s that. Here’s the situation, the Whole Reb army is up that road aways waiting for us, so this is no time for an argument like this, I tell you. We could surely use you fellahs, we’re now well below half strength. Whether you fight or not, that’s up to you, whether you come along is… well, you’re coming. You know who we are and what we are doing here, but if you are going to fight alongside us there are a few things I want you to know. This regiment was formed last summer, in Maine. There were a thousand of us then, there are less than 300 of us now. All of us volunteered to fight for the Union, just as you have. Some came mainly because we were bored at home, thought this looked like it might be fun. Some came because we were ashamed not to. Many of us came because it was the right thing to do. And all of us have seen men die. This is a different kind of army. If you look back through history you will see men fighting for pay, for women, for some other kind of loot. They fight for land, power, because a king leads them, or just because they like killing. But we are here for something new, this has not happened much, in the history of the world. We are an army out to set other men free. America should be free ground, all of it, not divided by a line between slave states and free - all the way from here to the Pacific Ocean. No man has to bow. No man born to royalty. Here we judge you by what you do, not by who your father was. Here you can be something. Here is the place to build a home. But it’s not the land, there’s always more land. It’s the idea that we all have value - you and me. What we are fighting for, in the end, we’re fighting for each other. Sorry, I didn’t mean to preach. You go ahead and you talk for a while. If you choose to join us and you want your muskets back you can have them - nothing more will be said by anyone anywhere. If you choose not to join us well then you can come along under guard and when this is all over I will do what I can to ensure you get a fair trial, but for now we’re moving out. Gentlemen, I think if we lose this fight we lose the war, so if you choose to join us I will be personally very grateful.

Actually, a couple of the Confederate generals had better speeches, but that’s kind of a touchy subject these days.

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Say what you want about Zack Snyder’s _300_, Leonidas’s pre-battle speeches are effective, albeit somewhat, um, laconic:

_This is where we hold them. This is where we fight! And this is where THEY DIE! Remember this day, men, for it will be yours for all time!_

And -

_Spartans! Ready your breakfast and eat hearty… For tonight, we dine in hell!_

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rousing-speechess-of-heroism-sorry-aquaman/845096/31 "2019-12-19T21:56:41Z")

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_The Last Starfighter_:  
_bzzzz_ _whirrr_ _click!_ We die.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rousing-speechess-of-heroism-sorry-aquaman/845096/32 "2019-12-19T22:06:08Z")

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“Let’s make sure history never forgets the name Enterprise.”

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**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rousing-speechess-of-heroism-sorry-aquaman/845096/33 "2019-12-19T22:11:00Z")

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> [@Andy\_L](#):
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> “Let’s make sure history never forgets the name Enterprise.”

What is that from? Seems a little weak, especially as the USS Enterprise CV-6 was the most important ship in WWII for the US and the USS Enterprise CVN-65 was the first nuclear Super Carrier and served for 50 years.

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**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rousing-speechess-of-heroism-sorry-aquaman/845096/34 "2019-12-19T22:15:03Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> What is that from? Seems a little weak, especially as the USS Enterprise CV-6 was the most important ship in WWII for the US and the USS Enterprise CVN-65 was the first nuclear Super Carrier and served for 50 years.

Captain Picard - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1L3URogjWI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1L3URogjWI)

“Attention all hands. As you know, we could outrun the Klingon vessels. But we must protect the Enterprise-C until she enters the temporal rift. And we must succeed. Let’s make sure history never forgets… the name… ‘Enterprise’. Picard out.”

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rousing-speechess-of-heroism-sorry-aquaman/845096/35 "2019-12-19T22:20:38Z")

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> [@mbh](#):
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> Colonel Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain, in _Gettysburg_:  
> Actually, a couple of the Confederate generals had better speeches, but that’s kind of a touchy subject these days.

Unless something has changed since I lost my site, I am still black, and I wouldn’t have a problem with posting a heroic speech by a confederate.

But I’m not in charge of you people.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rousing-speechess-of-heroism-sorry-aquaman/845096/36 "2019-12-19T22:23:06Z")

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> [@Andy\_L](#):
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> Captain Picard - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1L3URogjWI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1L3URogjWI)
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> “Attention all hands. As you know, we could outrun the Klingon vessels. But we must protect the Enterprise-C until she enters the temporal rift. And we must succeed. Let’s make sure history never forgets… the name… ‘Enterprise’. Picard out.”

Weak one. In the Star Trek Universe, how many times did NCC-1701 save the Federation and/or Earth? And continuity includes the 2 carriers I mentioned from the US Navy. Hell, when they went back in time, Chekov & Uhura snuck aboard CVN-65 to collect power from her reactors.

I must be missing some context or Picard was being very ignorant.

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**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rousing-speechess-of-heroism-sorry-aquaman/845096/37 "2019-12-19T22:23:19Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> What is that from? Seems a little weak

I saw the episode and I thought the speech was weak, too. Patrick Stewart’s delivery just seemed way off, like he was having trouble remembering the line. His “That will be the day” later in the scene was a lot cooler.

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**Post date:** [December 19, 2019, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rousing-speechess-of-heroism-sorry-aquaman/845096/38 "2019-12-19T22:38:08Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> Unless something has changed since I lost my site, I am still black, and I wouldn’t have a problem with posting a heroic speech by a confederate.
> 
> But I’m not in charge of you people.

Very well, then.

Brigadier General Lewis A. Armistead:

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> Colonel Freemantle… it does not begin or end with my uncle… or myself. We’re all sons of Virginia here. That major out there, commanding the cannon… that’s James Dearing. First in his class at West Point, before Virgina seceded. And the boy over there with the color guard… that’s Private Robert Tyler Jones. His grandfather was President of the United States. The colonel behind me… that’s Colonel William Aylett. Now, his great-grandfather was the Virginian, Patrick Henry. It was Patrick Henry who said to your King George III, “Give me liberty, or give me death.” There are boys here from Norfolk… Portsmouth… small hamlets along the James River. From Charlottesville and Fredericksburg… and the Shenondoah Valley. Mostly, they’re all veteran soldiers now; the cowards and shirkers are long gone. Every man here knows his duty. They would make this charge, even without an officer to lead them. They know the gravity of the situation, and the mettle of their foe. They know that this day’s work will be desperate and deadly. They know, that for many of them, this will be their last charge. But not one of them needs to be told what is expected of him. They’re all willing to make the supreme sacrifice… to achieve victory, here… the crowning victory… and the end of this war. We are all here, Colonel. You may tell them, when you return to your country… that all Virginia was here on this day.

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_Today… At the edge of our hope, at the end of our time, we have chosen not only to believe in ourselves, but in each other. Today there is not a man nor woman in here that shall stand alone. Not today. Today we face the monsters that are at our door and bring the fight to them! Today, we are canceling the apocalypse!_  
– Stacker Pentecost, Pacific Rim

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Buffy the Vampire Slayer had many. “There is only one thing on Earth more powerful than evil, and that’s us.”

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