# Royal Baby name

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royal-baby-name/664256>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [July 22, 2013, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royal-baby-name/664256 "2013-07-22T22:20:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2013, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royal-baby-name/664256/141 "2013-07-24T22:24:02Z")

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> [@mbh](#):
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> Well, there’s a snowball’s-chance-in-purgatory he might opt for Alexander IV or Louis I.

I don’t believe Alexander has ever been used, has it?

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**Author:** ![Sparky\_the\_Wonder\_Spirit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Sparky\_the\_Wonder\_Spirit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky_the_Wonder_Spirit)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2013, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royal-baby-name/664256/142 "2013-07-24T22:39:55Z")

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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> Maybe they won’t call him George. I hope not - besides being so old fashioned, you know he’ll end up “Georgie”. He’ll be much better off if they call him Alexander or even Louis.

They could go for [Geordi](http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-FoIlaO8eRfU/T947kYE73dI/AAAAAAAADw4/LKcA1qAuk7A/s400/geordi_la_forge.jpg).

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2013, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royal-baby-name/664256/143 "2013-07-24T22:54:47Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> But you doesn’t have to call him Johnson.  
> [Older Dopers may get it.]

> [@mbh](#):
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> You can call me Ray,  
> or you can call me Jay,  
> etc.
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> [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond\_J.\_Johnson,\_Jr](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_J._Johnson,_Jr).

I’m old enough to have seen Ray Jay Johnson perform that bit on television, but not old enough to understand what’s funny about it.

> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> I don’t believe Alexander has ever been used, has it?

There were three kings of the Scots named Alexander. I can’t remember whether that would make a British monarch Alexander IV.

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**Author:** ![aNewLeaf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@aNewLeaf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aNewLeaf)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2013, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royal-baby-name/664256/144 "2013-07-24T22:56:41Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> I’m old enough to have seen Ray Jay Johnson perform that bit on television, but not old enough to understand what’s funny about it.

It wasn’t funny in an absolute sense. It was funny compared to what else was on TV in those days.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2013, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royal-baby-name/664256/145 "2013-07-24T22:58:03Z")

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> [@aNewLeaf](#):
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> It wasn’t funny in an absolute sense. It was funny compared to what else was on TV in those days.

I can believe that.

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**Author:** ![aNewLeaf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@aNewLeaf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aNewLeaf)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2013, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royal-baby-name/664256/146 "2013-07-24T23:01:50Z")

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There were only three channels, remember? And if it was a two-parter, you had to wait until _next week_.  
Kids these days have no idea what hardships we endured.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2013, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royal-baby-name/664256/147 "2013-07-24T23:05:16Z")

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> [@aNewLeaf](#):
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> There were only three channels, remember? And if it was a two-parter, you had to wait until _next week_.

Well, _Batman_ was on twice a week!

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2013, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royal-baby-name/664256/148 "2013-07-24T23:05:21Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> There were three kings of the Scots named Alexander. I can’t remember whether that would make a British monarch Alexander IV.

When the current Queen took the throne as Queen Elizabeth II, there were some in Scotland who were upset, because there had never been a Scottish Queen Elizabeth.

Winston Churchill proposed that in the future, if a monarch came to the throne, the higher of the English or Scottish numbering should be used. So if the new prince eventually ascends and reigns as Alexander, by Churchill’s suggestion he should be listed as Alexander IV. See the wiki article on [Regnal Numbers](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regnal_number#Ordinals_and_the_Acts_of_Union_1707).

It may be moot, though, if Scotland votes for independence next year.

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**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2013, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royal-baby-name/664256/149 "2013-07-24T23:12:28Z")

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> [@Baron\_Greenback](#):
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> They could use one of the Scottish diminutives for George: Dod or Doddie. Hmmm, maybe not. Sandy for Alexander would be good though.

Lord Culloden, the grandson of the Queen’s first cousin the Duke of Gloucester, is named Xan.

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**Post date:** [July 24, 2013, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royal-baby-name/664256/150 "2013-07-24T23:30:52Z")

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So is it “George Alexander Lewis” or “George Alexander Louie”?

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**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royal-baby-name/664256/151 "2013-07-25T00:08:22Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> So is it “George Alexander Lewis” or “George Alexander Louie”?

It’s spelled Louis, and pronounced Louie. The name originated with Lord Louis Mountbatten, Prince Philip’s uncle, who was very close to Prince Charles. Charles gave his name to his son (William Arthur Philip Louis), who has now passed it on to his son. Lord Mountbatten was assassinated by the IRA in 1979.

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**Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royal-baby-name/664256/152 "2013-07-25T00:15:39Z")

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Thank you.

I’d always assumed that the Mountbattens, being German, would _not_ have pronounced it the French way…

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royal-baby-name/664256/153 "2013-07-25T00:20:00Z")

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King George Alexander Louis…?

The Costanza King…!?

“Ok. Explain British Royalty to me.”  
“Ok. Its a very simple concept. Its a Monarchy… that makes laws… about Nothing…”

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**Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royal-baby-name/664256/154 "2013-07-25T00:22:40Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> I’d always assumed that the Mountbattens, being German, would _not_ have pronounced it the French way…

If they really wanted to keep the German pronunciation, they’d have just stayed with Ludwig (which is what Lord Mountbatten’s father was originally called).

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**Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royal-baby-name/664256/155 "2013-07-25T00:36:17Z")

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I have always heard Louis Mountbatten’s name pronounced as Lewis not Louie.

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**Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royal-baby-name/664256/156 "2013-07-25T00:44:27Z")

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and pronounce “George” as “Gay-org”, like in Sound of Music!

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**Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royal-baby-name/664256/157 "2013-07-25T06:48:05Z")

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> [@Cinnamon\_Imp](#):
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> Did no one go for “Louis”?

In the “Kate Middleton is pregnant” thread, I predicted if the baby was a boy, he’d be Prince Louis… and I got the other names horribly wrong 🙂 (Louis Charles Philip John). That was back in January

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**Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royal-baby-name/664256/158 "2013-07-25T11:49:41Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> John Paul George Ringo

> [@Lukeinva](#):
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> John Paul George Ringo.

> [@Cinnamon\_Imp](#):
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> [George Alexander Louis says the BBC.](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23443504)

I wonder why they choose to honor only _one_ of the Beatles (and the “quiet one” at that) and ignore the other three, including the two that are still living? Royals- who can figger 'em out.

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**Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royal-baby-name/664256/159 "2013-07-25T12:05:59Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> I have always heard Louis Mountbatten’s name pronounced as Lewis not Louie.

Not in the UK, it’s always Louie (see youtube clip of [BBC documentary](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxdG8wzYueg), 01:20)

Lewis is usually a surname, and is spelled how it is pronounced. And, dare I say, Lewis as a first name would be a little downmarket, certainly not for the royals.

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**Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royal-baby-name/664256/160 "2013-07-25T12:18:23Z")

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> [@SpoilerVirgin](#):
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> It’s spelled Louis, and pronounced Louie.

Isn’t that a little French?

> [@SanVito](#):
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> Lewis is usually a surname, and is spelled how it is pronounced. And, dare I say, Lewis as a first name would be a little downmarket, certainly not for the royals.

What first names tend to be upmarket and downmarket in the UK? Any rhyme or reason to them?

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