# Royalty = Bio-Waste. Discuss. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 3, 2011, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royalty-bio-waste-discuss/580541 "2011-05-03T02:31:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Naxos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/50afbb/32.png) [@Naxos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Naxos)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2011, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royalty-bio-waste-discuss/580541/21 "2011-05-03T04:40:54Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > One of the key problems with your OP (besides its lack of coherence) is that you assume an equivalence here that is probably not bourne out by fact. There are no serfs in GB at present in any real sense. There are probably some very few royal worshippers that would gladly volunteer themselves as serfs. But most are royalists only in the same way as some people might be fans of a particular musician, say. Such people would stop being royalists so fast it would make your head spin if it were ever suggested that they actually be serfs to the royals. Reality can prove your point wrong. The sole fact that royalty even exists, is proof that some people want and ask to be dominated by a female genital organ. There’s no other way to spin it. Reality is real. Deal with it. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2011, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royalty-bio-waste-discuss/580541/22 "2011-05-03T04:54:49Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > The almighty [del]Dollar[/del] Pound, as in the ones gained by tourism. It would be quite simple, though, to have the tourist attractions without the royal family. Hell, get rid of the royal family and it would actually open up far more of the royal properties to tourism dollars. Not many tourists to Britain actually see the royal family themselves, but plenty visit one or more of the royal residences. I’m no royalist, but i’ve been to Windsor Castle. Many of those residences are only open for short periods each year, or not at all. Clarence House, the home of the Prince of Wales, is only open for 1 month in 2011. I don’t really care either way about the royal family, but i’m not convinced that their absence would have an especially serious impact on tourism. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2011, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royalty-bio-waste-discuss/580541/23 "2011-05-03T04:56:16Z")
> [@Naxos](#): > > Reality can prove your point wrong. > > The sole fact that royalty even exists, is proof that some people want and ask to be dominated by a female genital organ. > > There’s no other way to spin it. Reality is real. Deal with it. Oh I’m sorry. I thought I might have appropriate cognitive ability to be able to converse at your level. My mistake. Carry on. Reality is real. Sheer genius. Must remember that one. How can you argue with it? Brilliant. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2011, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royalty-bio-waste-discuss/580541/24 "2011-05-03T04:59:25Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > It would be quite simple, though, to have the tourist attractions without the royal family. Hell, get rid of the royal family and it would actually open up far more of the royal properties to tourism dollars. I disagree. Former royal stuff is two a penny throughout Europe. Buildings, old knick knacks etc. What gives people that certain frisson about the English stuff is that it is all still being used. Don’t give a shit, myself, but I’m pretty sure that if you got rid of the actual people so that it was all just a museum display, the pulling power would slowly die. ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2011, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royalty-bio-waste-discuss/580541/25 "2011-05-03T05:15:41Z")
How do you “get rid of” the royal family anyway? They didn’t do anything to deserve it. It’s not their fault they were born into it. Why should they be stripped of the things they have inherited? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2011, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royalty-bio-waste-discuss/580541/26 "2011-05-03T05:25:51Z")
Am I the only one who finds imperious commands to “discuss” some half-baked idea obnoxious? I’m not a trained monkey, godammit. As for royalty, I rather like Keith Richards’ supposed response when asked if he would accept a knighthood: “I get on my knees for no one.” ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2011, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royalty-bio-waste-discuss/580541/27 "2011-05-03T05:40:20Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > I disagree. Former royal stuff is two a penny throughout Europe. Buildings, old knick knacks etc. What gives people that certain frisson about the English stuff is that it is all still being used. Don’t give a shit, myself, but I’m pretty sure that if you got rid of the actual people so that it was all just a museum display, the pulling power would slowly die. You might be right. It’s always seemed to me, though, that people don’t generally visit Britain _specifically_ for the royals, or even for the castles, for that matter. While i might visit Windosr Castle (or whatever) on a trip to England, i don’t really consider that my reason for going. > [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > How do you “get rid of” the royal family anyway? **They didn’t do anything to deserve it.** It’s not their fault they were born into it. Why should they be stripped of the things they have inherited? Bolding mine. You could just as easily argue that they did nothing to deserve _having_ all that unearned wealth. Six of one… ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2011, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royalty-bio-waste-discuss/580541/28 "2011-05-03T05:40:48Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > I disagree. Former royal stuff is two a penny throughout Europe. Buildings, old knick knacks etc. What gives people that certain frisson about the English stuff is that it is all still being used. Don’t give a shit, myself, but I’m pretty sure that if you got rid of the actual people so that it was all just a museum display, the pulling power would slowly die. Yep, all that people that visited England for the recent wedding were not looking at just museum pieces. IMHO the very second the royals do not pull in tourists and the money they bring, that will be the end of them and I would not complain if that would take place. Back in 1992 there was a risk that the people would get rid of any support to the British royals thanks to the bad economy back then, the Queen saved the institution by agreeing to also pay taxes like all commoners, so that is also what I mean when I talk about “the money they bring”. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2011, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royalty-bio-waste-discuss/580541/29 "2011-05-03T06:36:44Z")
> [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > How do you “get rid of” the royal family anyway? They didn’t do anything to deserve it. It’s not their fault they were born into it. Why should they be stripped of the things they have inherited? When people talk about “getting rid of the royal family,” I don’t think they mean to turn them out into the cold dressed in rags. (Generally speaking, that is. I can’t vouch for what Captain Ladyparts up there wants to do with them.) Rather, they just mean removing them from their position as head of state - a position which (per Wikipedia) does cost the taxpayers in the neighborhood of 8 million pounds a year. If that were my tax money being spent, I might be a bit chafed about it. But then, if that were my tax money being spent, I’d be British, and the royal family might actually mean something to me. > [@El Kabong](#): > > I’m not a trained monkey, godammit. That explains this mess on the carpet, then. ---
**Author:** ![Sierra\_Indigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Sierra\_Indigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sierra_Indigo)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2011, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royalty-bio-waste-discuss/580541/30 "2011-05-03T08:06:16Z")
8 million pounds is not a hell of a lot, and then they pay income tax anyway, so that’s a bit of a “taking with the left, giving with the right” situation. There are plenty of people who go to England to see the royal family as part of the experience of visiting England. The chance that you might see Charles while you’re poking around Buck palace is a large draw for a number of people. And there are still monarchists in the Commonwealth as well. Mostly they are older generations, like my great-grandmother was, but there are still some alive. The royals are a huge draw for them, getting a letter from Queen Liz on her 100th birthday was my great grandma’s dream. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2011, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royalty-bio-waste-discuss/580541/31 "2011-05-03T11:20:04Z")
> [@Naxos](#): > > some people want and ask to be dominated by a female genital organ I do not understand what this actually means, but I would like to volunteer to find out. ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2011, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royalty-bio-waste-discuss/580541/32 "2011-05-03T12:17:40Z")
> [@Naxos](#): > > The sole fact that royalty even exists, is proof that some people want and ask to be dominated by a female genital organ. OP, can you please elaborate on this and provide cites? I mean what does genitalia have to do with it? ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2011, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royalty-bio-waste-discuss/580541/33 "2011-05-03T12:34:54Z")
> [@Naxos](#): > > Reality can prove your point wrong. > > The sole fact that royalty even exists, is proof that some people want and ask to be dominated by a female genital organ. > > There’s no other way to spin it. Reality is real. Deal with it. Ah, the classic “I declare reality to agree with me, therefore there is NO POSSIBLE COUNTERARGUMENT” tactic. Always a sure sign of a productive and interesting exchange of ideas. PS. Also, the Queen’s cooter is MAGNIFICENT! ---
**Author:** ![Double\_Foolscap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85e7bf/32.png) [@Double\_Foolscap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Double_Foolscap)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2011, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royalty-bio-waste-discuss/580541/34 "2011-05-03T12:38:50Z")
8 million pounds a year doesn’t seem much to provide a head of state. We don’t need to pay for elections every handful of years, for one thing, just a coronation (and now and then a wedding) every so often. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2011, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royalty-bio-waste-discuss/580541/35 "2011-05-03T13:43:33Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > That explains this mess on the carpet, then. _Howls in impotent rage, then shits the carpet. Again._ ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2011, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royalty-bio-waste-discuss/580541/36 "2011-05-03T14:15:35Z")
[QUOTE=Naxos] some people want and ask to be dominated by a female genital organ [/QUOTE] > [@FinnAgain](#): > > I do not understand what this actually means, but I would like to volunteer to find out. Me too. I thought it was all about the tits. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2011, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royalty-bio-waste-discuss/580541/37 "2011-05-03T14:23:31Z")
> [@Naxos](#): > > The sole fact that royalty even exists, is proof that some people want and ask to be dominated by a female genital organ. Presumably this means that male royals also have female genitalia, or something. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2011, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royalty-bio-waste-discuss/580541/38 "2011-05-03T14:24:16Z")
> [@Naxos](#): > > Social Sciences are advanced enough to explain the observed behavior of masses willingly declare their inferiority to a specific human’s genitals. Social sciences, hell, we need a biologist in here. Have you seen Peter North? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2011, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royalty-bio-waste-discuss/580541/39 "2011-05-03T15:40:56Z")
Or Ron Jeremy, for that matter. Don’t let **Naxos** bother you. He is an ignorant asshole with delusions of adequacy. Vive le Roi! ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2011, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royalty-bio-waste-discuss/580541/40 "2011-05-03T15:49:21Z")
What spiffy keen locale do you hail from, **Naxos**? Obviously it’s above reproach as you seem to find societal fault in every direction imaginable. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royalty-bio-waste-discuss/580541.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royalty-bio-waste-discuss/580541.md?page=3)