# royjwood and the Bloody Poms

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royjwood-and-the-bloody-poms/95478>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 27, 2001, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royjwood-and-the-bloody-poms/95478 "2001-11-27T08:57:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2001, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royjwood-and-the-bloody-poms/95478/1 "2001-11-27T08:57:31Z")

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From [this little thread in GQ](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=100623)

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> \*Originally posted by royjwood \*  
> \*\*The Bloody Poms have screwed up most everything else, so why not driving, too.  
> Consider the English language for example. It required the Americans to perfect the language to a point where you do not sound like a snobby snot when you speak it.  
> As with driving…  
> We drive on the right or correct side, the bloody poms use the wrong side.  
> Now see, wasn’t that simple? They are wrong, and we are right. \*\*

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> **Still, no joke… It is simple fact, though…We are right, they are wrong. Actually, there are two distinct British accents. The snobby snotty one, and then the more cockney one (like the corporal in the movie, “The Trench”). The cockney speakers seldom come off as “better than thou”. That is always reserved for the snobby snotty accent speakers.**

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> \*\*Whatever, it was not intended as racism, but I will allow it to become so in an heated argument if you so wish. \*\*

Oh, and before someone says “Woosh”, I did ask him if he was joking - twice.

So come on, Royjwood, a little more on your learned viewpoint that the english screw up most everything. Elaborate on how Britain has only two accents, and how everyone who isn’t a cockney sounds like a “snobby snot”. And generally just continue to be the entertaining little racist fuckwit you are. I always liked a laugh, and your Fucko the clown show is some funny shit.

As you are so familiar with Britain, it’s strengths and failings I’m sure you’ll be recognise the the late Peter Cook, when I call you a fucking stupid fucking cunt.

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**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2001, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royjwood-and-the-bloody-poms/95478/2 "2001-11-27T10:35:56Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Gary Kumquat \*  
> I’m sure you’ll be recognise the the late Peter Cook, when I call you a fucking stupid fucking cunt.

Oh shut up you silly snobby snot 😉

Two accents eh? Catherine Zeta Jones has more than that.

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**Author:** ![cornflakes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9d8465/32.png) [@cornflakes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cornflakes)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2001, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royjwood-and-the-bloody-poms/95478/3 "2001-11-27T10:37:55Z")

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**JDT** , circumscribed.

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2001, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royjwood-and-the-bloody-poms/95478/4 "2001-11-27T10:46:09Z")

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> \*Originally posted by yojimbo \*  
> \*\*Oh shut up you silly snobby snot 😉  
> \*\*

Nah, I don’t sound snobby enough - guess I must be a cockney then 😃

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2001, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royjwood-and-the-bloody-poms/95478/5 "2001-11-27T10:47:36Z")

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When I first saw the Username I thought “WIZZARD!!!”

When I read his posts I thought “ASSHOLE!!!”

- when the troll man brings the troll… \*

although, I was always prefered Noddy Holder’s “its CHRRIIIIIIISSSSSSTMAAAAASSSSS!!!” myself…

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**Author:** ![cornflakes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9d8465/32.png) [@cornflakes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cornflakes)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2001, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royjwood-and-the-bloody-poms/95478/6 "2001-11-27T11:02:18Z")

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> \*Originally posted by cornflakes \*  
> \*\ ***JDT** , circumscribed. \*\*

…cised. It’s late.

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**Author:** ![Crusoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/49beb7/32.png) [@Crusoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crusoe)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2001, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royjwood-and-the-bloody-poms/95478/7 "2001-11-27T11:18:35Z")

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> \*Originally posted by TwistofFate \*  
> \*\*When I first saw the Username I thought “WIZZARD!!!”
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> When I read his posts I thought “ASSHOLE!!!”
> 
> - when the troll man brings the troll… \*
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> although, I was always prefered Noddy Holder’s “its CHRRIIIIIIISSSSSSTMAAAAASSSSS!!!” myself… \*\*

Oh thanks mate. First Xmas song of the year stuck in my head now…!

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2001, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royjwood-and-the-bloody-poms/95478/8 "2001-11-27T11:21:44Z")

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lok to the future now, its only just begun!!!

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2001, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royjwood-and-the-bloody-poms/95478/9 "2001-11-27T11:39:07Z")

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What the hell is a ‘pom’?

I thought this was gonna be a tirade about cheerleaders. Seriously. What is a pom?

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**Author:** ![manwithaplan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@manwithaplan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manwithaplan)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2001, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royjwood-and-the-bloody-poms/95478/10 "2001-11-27T11:43:27Z")

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It’s an Australian term for an English person.

And a little dog.

And the noise a bass drum makes.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2001, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royjwood-and-the-bloody-poms/95478/11 "2001-11-27T11:45:08Z")

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Thank you. I was feeling left out.

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**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2001, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royjwood-and-the-bloody-poms/95478/12 "2001-11-27T11:53:05Z")

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POME most commonly refers to prisoner of mother england. It was either on this board or snopes or both that actually debunked that theory. Still aussies and kiwi’s regularly refer to the english as Pomes. My friends from that part of the world often combine it into an endearment with pommy bastard

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**Author:** ![royjwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ce73a5/32.png) [@royjwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/royjwood)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2001, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royjwood-and-the-bloody-poms/95478/13 "2001-11-27T12:24:55Z")

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WOW!  
I am enjoying this quite a bit.  
As previously mentioned, it was never meant as racist. Living here in the land down under, I spend an awful lot of time with Kiwis, Aussies, and Brits. We enjoy a very friendly rivalry, usaully oriented more around sporting than anything else. None of the Brits here take any offense to the term pom or pommie, and usually have as much fun as the rest of us. But actually, the biggest rivalry is not America vs Britain, it is Australia vs Britain.  
As such, we still carry on with our fun down here, and I hope that you someday learn to enjoy life, too.  
But I will apologise if it did offend you, but that kind of supports my statement, anyway.  
And also as previously mentioned, I love the cockney accent, I have found that the people I know with the cockney accent are much more fun to be around. However, how they can drink so much I will never understand. On their worst day, they can drink me under the table on my best day.  
Anyway, cheers, I do not normally visit the Pit, as I enjoy more friendly debates.

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**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2001, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royjwood-and-the-bloody-poms/95478/14 "2001-11-27T12:41:06Z")

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**royjwood** when you says the “I have found that the people I know with the cockney accent” do you mean that they where born within hearing distance of the bells of St. Mary le Bow 😉 or that they just don’t sound like Hugh Grant?

Have you ever meet anyone from Liverpool, Birmingham, Essex etc.?

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2001, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royjwood-and-the-bloody-poms/95478/15 "2001-11-27T12:42:03Z")

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> \*Originally posted by royjwood \*  
> **I hope that you someday learn to enjoy life, too.  
> But I will apologise if it did offend you, but that kind of supports my statement, anyway.**

Ah. Hackneyed defence no 17 (in a long list of excuses for the thick). When caught making stupid remarks, claim it was all just a joke. Slight tip for you, fucko - twice you said you weren’t joking. Then when you get some heat, you change tune. You’ll excuse me if I wonder if you’re just talking shite.

Other tip. About this life business - I’m having a fucking whale of a time, and idiots like you just add to my daily amusement. For that, my thanks

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> \*\*Anyway, cheers, I do not normally visit the Pit, as I enjoy more friendly debates. \*\*

Simple way to avoid the pit - don’t make stupid fucking remarks. As I recall, you said you were a Texan. You can imagine how it might offend you if I started to make sweeping remarks about how texans fuck everything up and sound like retards. You might also be able to imagine that you might not accept an “Hey, it was just a joke” as a legit excuse.

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**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2001, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royjwood-and-the-bloody-poms/95478/16 "2001-11-27T13:10:58Z")

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Can we have a quick head count of everyone who took offence to “Pom”? I know I don’t. From the other thread, your use of “Pom” was only mentioned by someone who wanted to know if you’d picked it up in Australia:

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> Basically, I’m curious about whether the racism is attempted humour, or just idiocy? I’d also like to know where you’re from, as the only people I know who call Brits ‘Poms’ are Aussies, and they also drive on the left.

ie. Nobody actually complained about it. The accusation of racism was in reference to this from you:

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> The answer really is quite simple…  
> The Bloody Poms have screwed up most everything else, so why not driving, too. Consider the English language for example. It required the Americans to perfect the language to a point where you do not sound like a snobby snot when you speak it.

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**Author:** ![sirjamesp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@sirjamesp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sirjamesp)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2001, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royjwood-and-the-bloody-poms/95478/17 "2001-11-27T13:39:56Z")

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May this Pommy bastard suggest that we all just ignore the troll. I predict that otherwise, the thread will just be:

**Human:** You said the Poms screwed up everything, that they sound like snotty nosed bastards, that you are not joking and that you can get more racist if we want. What do you say to that?  
**Troll:** Well, I don’t know anyone who is offended by the word “Pom”.  
**Human:** But that isn’t the point. I repeat, you said Poms screwed up everything and sound snotty.  
**Troll:** Well, I find that sport between Britain and Australia contains friendly rivalry.  
**Human:** Yes, but are you going to stand by your observations, or continue to dodge the point?  
**Troll:** I have many friends in Australia.

and so on and on.

Just ignore the little prick. My guess is that he puts on the anti-Brit thing in a feeble attempt to make friends in Oz.

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**Author:** ![royjwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ce73a5/32.png) [@royjwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/royjwood)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2001, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royjwood-and-the-bloody-poms/95478/18 "2001-11-27T13:48:56Z")

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Kumquat,  
The Aussies and I have a lot of fun with accents, though. But admittedly, when it comes to international sporting, America really lags behind. Therefore, I have to avoid the sporting rivalries.  
Being that I am not a snobby snot, I do not mind good natured joking, as I live with it every day of my life. If you prefer to be a like that, well, that is your own personal problem, not mine.  
The reason I do not visit the Pit is I do not enjoy hateful attacks as much as I do friendly rivalries and debates. You will also note that I do not use profanity, especially directed towards another person. It is called courtesy and respect.  
Anyway, you can take your angry little brainless head and pull it out of your smelly fat anus and try learning to enjoy life again.  
Enjoy,  
(Actually, thanks fo rstarting this thread, even though I will not be back, it has made for some amusing reading)

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**Author:** ![sirjamesp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@sirjamesp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sirjamesp)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2001, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royjwood-and-the-bloody-poms/95478/19 "2001-11-27T13:57:25Z")

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> \*Originally posted by royjwood \*  
> You will also note that I do not use profanity, especially directed towards another person. It is called courtesy and respect.

Next sentence:

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> \*Originally posted by royjwood \*  
> Anyway, you can take your angry little brainless head and pull it out of your smelly fat anus…

Eh, you’ve gotta laugh.

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**Author:** ![tavalla](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tavalla/32/89_2.png) [@tavalla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tavalla)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2001, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/royjwood-and-the-bloody-poms/95478/20 "2001-11-27T14:00:58Z")

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> \*Originally posted by sirjamesp \*  
> \*\*My guess is that he puts on the anti-Brit thing in a feeble attempt to make friends in Oz. \*\*

🙂 Got to admit, **sirjamesp** , my first thought was, “Oh god, someone trying to out-Australian the Australians…”

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