# RR user names

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rr-user-names/591538>\
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**Created:** [August 5, 2011, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rr-user-names/591538 "2011-08-05T03:22:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rr-user-names/591538/21 "2011-08-05T15:39:01Z")

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> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#):
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> I thought the MO town was named after the NC town.

That is the version the town accepts as true.

Ah, St. Patricks Day in Rolla, best week of the year.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rr-user-names/591538/22 "2011-08-05T17:12:17Z")

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> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#):
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> Some people maintain that Sir Walter pronounced his last name “Rally.” Just sayin’…

Really?

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rr-user-names/591538/23 "2011-08-05T17:24:26Z")

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No, Rally.

No cite, but some of my profs in graduate school pronounced it like that.

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rr-user-names/591538/24 "2011-08-05T19:23:26Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Nope. I’m implying that he never took poetry in school. 😃

Neither did you, apparently. Raleigh and Rally rhyme because the second syllable in both is pronounced the same, “lee”. Words don’t have to be homophones to rhyme. How do you not know that?

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**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rr-user-names/591538/25 "2011-08-05T19:33:13Z")

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> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#):
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> Neither did you, apparently. Raleigh and Rally rhyme because the second syllable in both is pronounced the same, “lee”. Words don’t have to be homophones to rhyme. How do you not know that?

In the strictest sense, a rhyme is based upon the last _stressed_ syllable, not the last syllable. Words that only match the final unstressed sound make pretty weak rhymes.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rr-user-names/591538/26 "2011-08-05T19:36:49Z")

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> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#):
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> Neither did you, apparently. Raleigh and Rally rhyme because the second syllable in both is pronounced the same, “lee”. Words don’t have to be homophones to rhyme. How do you not know that?

I know that the final syllables rhyme.  
I also know what Mrs. Jeleniewski would say if I tried to rhyme “Resolutely” with “Consequentially” in an assignment.

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rr-user-names/591538/27 "2011-08-05T19:54:09Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> I know that the final syllables rhyme.  
> I also know what Mrs. Jeleniewski would say if I tried to rhyme “Resolutely” with “Consequentially” in an assignment.

> [@fachverwirrt](#):
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> In the strictest sense, a rhyme is based upon the last _stressed_ syllable, not the last syllable. Words that only match the final unstressed sound make pretty weak rhymes.

Next up, we discuss how Emily Dickenson was the worst poet in history.

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rr-user-names/591538/28 "2011-08-05T19:59:02Z")

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Where I come from, Rally and Raleigh are pronounced the same.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rr-user-names/591538/29 "2011-08-05T20:01:45Z")

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> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#):
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> No, Rally.

We make a good team.

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> No cite, but some of my profs in graduate school pronounced it like that.

Joking apart, Rally is a pretty common way of pronouncing the name. I’ve been hearing it that way all my life.

Maybe your profs said ‘Rawley’ and you are misremembering. That is one of several spelling that he himself used.  
(Actually, he used vv not w)

> **[The prince, or maxims of state. : Raleigh, Walter, Sir, 1552?-1618 : Free...](http://archive.org/details/princeormaximsof00rale?view=theater)**
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> Later editions entitled Maxims of state

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rr-user-names/591538/30 "2011-08-05T20:07:14Z")

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**Czarcasm** , please read the following link. [Half rhyme](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half_rhyme). Pay close attention to how Yeats (yes, THAT Yeats) rhymes “bodies” with “ladies”.

There, you learned something today.

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**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rr-user-names/591538/31 "2011-08-05T20:08:02Z")

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Okay, apparently I have been mentally mispronouncing Sir Walter Raleigh’s last name all my life. (I’m reminded of that Simpsons episode where Marge says “Bart! Run like the wind [pronounced **whined**]!” and Lisa says “It’s wind [pronounced **winned**], Mom!” and Marge says “Well I’ve only ever read it in books!”)

Anyway, I always mentally pronounce his name as **ral-LAY** , where “ral” rhymes with “pal.” How’s it really pronounced?

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rr-user-names/591538/32 "2011-08-05T20:50:13Z")

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I’ve always pronounced it RAW-ley. But Lennon disagrees with me. He cursed Sir Walter _‘Rally’_; he was such a stupid get.

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rr-user-names/591538/33 "2011-08-05T20:54:50Z")

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I’m so tired of hearing that, Jack.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rr-user-names/591538/34 "2011-08-05T21:04:39Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> Where I come from, Rally and Raleigh are pronounced the same.

Let’s not drag your mother’s uterus into this.

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rr-user-names/591538/35 "2011-08-05T21:09:37Z")

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> [@chorpler](#):
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> (I’m reminded of that Simpsons episode where Marge says “Bart! Run like the wind [pronounced **whined**]!” and Lisa says “It’s wind [pronounced **winned**], Mom!” and Marge says “Well I’ve only ever read it in books!”)
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> ?

The joke here, I think, is that Romantic poets (and earlier poets) clearly pronounced as Marge does, because of what they rhyme it with in otherwise-rhyming poems: mind, lined, etc.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rr-user-names/591538/36 "2011-08-05T21:15:40Z")

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> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#):
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> **Czarcasm** , please read the following link. [Half rhyme](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half_rhyme). Pay close attention to how Yeats (yes, THAT Yeats) rhymes “bodies” with “ladies”.
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> There, you learned something today.

Sure did.  
I learned how some people can’t recognize a throwaway line when they see one.

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rr-user-names/591538/37 "2011-08-05T21:20:12Z")

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It was an unwarranted crack on the guy, and you know it. That’s why Peter Morris asked you if you were accusing the guy of lying. Now you’re trying to weasel out of it.

Like you always do.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rr-user-names/591538/38 "2011-08-05T21:22:41Z")

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> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#):
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> It was an unwarranted crack on the guy, and you know it. That’s why Peter Morris asked you if you were accusing the guy of lying. Now you’re trying to weasel out of it.
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> Like you always do.

How does _he_ pronounce his name?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rr-user-names/591538/39 "2011-08-05T21:29:22Z")

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> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#):
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> It was an unwarranted crack on the guy, and you know it. That’s why Peter Morris asked you if you were accusing the guy of lying. Now you’re trying to weasel out of it.
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> Like you always do.

BTW, if you want to get personal about it, I would appreciate it if you took it to The BBQ Pit-ATMB really isn’t the place for it.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rr-user-names/591538/40 "2011-08-05T22:15:44Z")

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If you wish to make unwarranted cracks about posters, how about if YOU do it in the BBQ pit.

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