# RR user names

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rr-user-names/591538>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [August 5, 2011, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rr-user-names/591538 "2011-08-05T03:22:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rr-user-names/591538/41 "2011-08-05T22:18:54Z")

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Oh yeah? Well, if You want to take shots at moderators who make cracks at posters why don’t YOU take it to the BBQ pit. Nyeah!

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**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rr-user-names/591538/42 "2011-08-06T00:01:21Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> I don’t get it. Huerta88 = HuertaHH. What’s the significance?

Huerta88 was a somewhat conservative member who was arguing in a thread in “Great Debates” about some topic which involved race, IIRC, and he was winning the debate too. Suddenly, a group of “the smartest folks in the room” decided that anyone with an “88” in their name who wasn’t parroting their argument must be a crypto-Nazi, and they started to insinuate such. Since of course there was absolutely no evidence which would convince anyone with an IQ greater than 70 that he was a racist, I and others stepped up to defend him. Amazingly, within hours not only were Huerta88 and his defenders being attacked off-board, but a group of “salt o’ the earth” Dopers started a Livejournal campaign to try to find out real-life information about Huerta88 to, um, teach him a lesson, I guess. (You know, just like CreditReportGate?)

Huerta88 then came in and said 88 was short for “1988”, which was a date of his graduation, or some similar thing. Of course none of the budding Simon Wiesenthals would accept that - in fact, just a couple of months ago one of them posted that there was clear evidence at the time that Huerta88 was a Nazi. Again, ignoring the fact that in all the years since, Huerta88 has been a good poster who’s shown absolutely no indication of having a giant Animatronic Hitler in his formal dining room. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rr-user-names/591538/43 "2011-08-06T00:03:10Z")

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I think “Ross Rachel” would be a really good username.

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**Author:** ![Hypnagogic\_Jerk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hypnagogic_jerk/32/4252_2.png) [@Hypnagogic\_Jerk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypnagogic_Jerk)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rr-user-names/591538/44 "2011-08-06T00:11:23Z")

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> [@chorpler](#):
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> Okay, apparently I have been mentally mispronouncing Sir Walter Raleigh’s last name all my life. (I’m reminded of that Simpsons episode where Marge says “Bart! Run like the wind [pronounced **whined**]!” and Lisa says “It’s wind [pronounced **winned**], Mom!” and Marge says “Well I’ve only ever read it in books!”)

There’s a _Simpsons_ episode with this? I know there’s a _Family Guy_ episode where Carter pronounces “wind” as “whined”, and claims to have only seen it in writing when corrected by his wife. Is it another example of _Family Guy_ ripping off _The Simpsons_?

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rr-user-names/591538/45 "2011-08-06T00:16:54Z")

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“Rachel Ross” is probably better.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rr-user-names/591538/46 "2011-08-06T00:39:31Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> If you wish to make unwarranted cracks about posters, how about if YOU do it in the BBQ pit.

My freakin’ _ghod_.  
I toss off a snark about how I’m not impressed with the way a poster rhymes his name, and I get accused of crap that has absolutely no business being in ATMB.  
News for you dudes-what makes for good poetry is in the eye of the beholder. Disagree with my taste if you wish, but the unwarranted personal attacks and pathetic attempts at mind reading have no place here, so why don’t we dial it back a notch or three and try to get back on topic, o.k.?

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**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rr-user-names/591538/47 "2011-08-06T00:50:31Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> I toss off a snark about how I’m not impressed with the way a poster rhymes his name, and I get accused of crap that has absolutely no business being in ATMB.

It’s not very pleasant being misinterpreted, is it? In any case, you started it and “attacked” him by basically saying he didn’t know what poetry was. You’re equally culpable in this.

> [@Hypnagogic\_Jerk](#):
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> There’s a _Simpsons_ episode with this? I know there’s a _Family Guy_ episode where Carter pronounces “wind” as “whined”, and claims to have only seen it in writing when corrected by his wife. Is it another example of _Family Guy_ ripping off _The Simpsons_?

Blame the manatees. =D

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**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rr-user-names/591538/48 "2011-08-06T00:53:30Z")

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In honor of this thread I am considering changing my name to RachelRellogram. But it’s more of a Scooby-doo homage than anything else.

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**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rr-user-names/591538/49 "2011-08-06T00:57:47Z")

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\*What’s in a name? That which we call a rose  
By any other name would smell as sweet. \*

Or not, as the case may be. 🙂

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rr-user-names/591538/50 "2011-08-06T00:59:35Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> the unwarranted personal attacks and pathetic attempts at mind reading have no place here

_snort_

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rr-user-names/591538/51 "2011-08-06T01:18:49Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> My freakin’ _ghod_.  
> I toss off a snark

Exactly.

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> News for you dudes-what makes for good poetry is in the eye of the beholder.

News for you - nobody is complaining about your taste in poetry.

We are complaining about your snark, your hostility, your rudeness and your unwarranted attacks on other posters.

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> the unwarranted personal attacks and pathetic attempts at mind reading have no place here, so why don’t we dial it back a notch or three and try to get back on topic, o.k.?

you are the one causing the problems here. If you just stay out of the rest of the thread, the rest of us will get on just fine.

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**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rr-user-names/591538/52 "2011-08-06T01:49:35Z")

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I’ll take “Unstoppable Cannonball Meets Unmoveable Wall” for $200, Alex.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rr-user-names/591538/53 "2011-08-06T02:36:28Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> If you wish to make unwarranted cracks about posters, how about if YOU do it in the BBQ pit.

> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#):
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> It was an unwarranted crack on the guy, and you know it. That’s why Peter Morris asked you if you were accusing the guy of lying. Now you’re trying to weasel out of it.
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> Like you always do.

Both of you are out of line, and your personal comments aren’t appropriate for this thread or this forum. Knock it off.

> [@Red\_Barchetta](#):
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> It’s not very pleasant being misinterpreted, is it? In any case, you started it and “attacked” him by basically saying he didn’t know what poetry was.

I realize you and **Czarcasm** were at odds in the other thread, but that doesn’t mean you can carry on the argument here.

This is a step above a joke thread and the hostility is uncalled for. If it continues, I’ll start handing out warnings.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rr-user-names/591538/54 "2011-08-06T03:01:34Z")

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> [@Una\_Persson](#):
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> Huerta88 was a somewhat conservative member who was arguing in a thread in “Great Debates” about some topic which involved race, IIRC, and he was winning the debate too. Suddenly, a group of “the smartest folks in the room” decided that anyone with an “88” in their name who wasn’t parroting their argument must be a crypto-Nazi

I won’t dispute this particular incident, but I admit that when I saw Huerta’s name originally, I instantly pegged him for a crypto-Nazi. I don’t think I ever called him out on it, but his subsequent explanation convinced me that he wasn’t referencing Hitler with his username.

And I maintain it was a reasonable (albeit mistaken) assumption that he was a crypto-Nazi. Thing is, crypto-Nazis love to think they’re smarter than everyone else, and they have their idiotic little secret handshakes that enable this delusion, and the “88” is one of them. They love putting it in usernames; I’ve encountered it on multiple boards over the last fifteen years of websurfing (well, okay, make it 12–I don’t remember seeing it online before 1999). And they also love to deny that they’re Nazis; thus the crypto- suffix.

Your spin on events is that people accused him of being a Nazi because he was winning a debate. I don’t think that’s fair. All it takes to have this suspicion is having previously encountered crypto-Nazis on the Internet who incorporate 88 into a username, and a passing familiarity with the SPLC’s Hatewatch project.

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**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rr-user-names/591538/55 "2011-08-06T04:14:01Z")

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I am not allowed to discuss this in the detail it needs in ATMB, and outside of it, I’m not going to paint that giant snark target on myself again to receive further threats and abuse. In short, your claim that “88,” **in lieu of any other evidence from his posting behavior** , was all it took to “peg” him as a Nazi, are entirely unconvincing to me. Obviously, you dispute my opinion.

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**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rr-user-names/591538/56 "2011-08-06T06:02:23Z")

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> [@Koxinga](#):
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> Oh yeah, don’t we have (or used to have) a poster with “88” in his handle, and he swore up and down it had nothing to do with the 8th letter of the alphabet?

Good thing LynnSwann88 doesn’t post here. 😃

Or PaytonManning18 for that matter (Adolph, of course)

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**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rr-user-names/591538/57 "2011-08-06T06:04:12Z")

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> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#):
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> No, Rally.
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> No cite, but some of my profs in graduate school pronounced it like that.

Most Americans IME pronounce it “RAH-lee” or even “RAH-leigh” (rhymes with sleigh.)

Obviously it’s pronounced differently in different English-speaking populations, so don’t let’s descend into a battle royal over this.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rr-user-names/591538/58 "2011-08-06T07:52:47Z")

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> [@Una\_Persson](#):
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> In short, your claim that “88,” **in lieu of any other evidence from his posting behavior** , was all it took to “peg” him as a Nazi, are entirely unconvincing to me.

I myself certainly strongly suspected it. And I’ve seen the same assumption by people on other boards when someone shows up with an “88” name. **Left Hand of Dorkness** isn’t unusual in his/her suspicions.

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**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rr-user-names/591538/59 "2011-08-06T10:21:30Z")

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> [@](#):
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> **A Monkey With a Gun** : Raleigh and Rally rhyme because the second syllable in both is pronounced the same, “lee”. Words don’t have to be homophones to rhyme. How do you not know that?

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> **A Monkey With a Gun** : Czarcasm, please read the following link. Half rhyme. Pay close attention to how Yeats (yes, THAT Yeats) rhymes “bodies” with “ladies”.

Yeats doesn’t rhyme “bodies” and “ladies.” The use of those words together fits the definition of “half rhyme” – not “rhyme.” There is a distinction. These words do not rhyme in the strictest sense of the word. “Ladies” rhymes with “Mercedes,” not with "bodies. But because they have repeating end sounds, they are half rhymes.

Other parts of the word can be repeated to form half rhymes also. I consider assonance and perhaps even alliteration to be an element in some half rhymes. Take for example Poe’s line from “The Raven”: The silken, sad uncertain rustling of each purple curtain…" There are six words in that one line that are related to each other in sound, but none of them rhyme.

Actually, homophones and syllables that sound exactly alike are **not** rhymes. That’s a little like saying that middle C on the piano “harmonizes” with itself. It doesn’t. It’s the same note. “ly” and “leigh” are the same sound. They don’t rhyme nor are they the half rhymes such as Dickinson, Yeats, and Poe used. Half rhymes are not the same as regular rhymes. That’s why they are given a different name. They do, however, contribute to quality poetry. Yeats is my favorite poet, hands down.

Proper nouns can be pronounced just about any way you choose. The folks around Cary, N.C. generally pronounce the city in their area **Rah** -lee. In the mid-West, “Missouri” is pronounced “Meh-zoor-uh.” That’s as close as I can come and I don’t mind being corrected by someone from the great state itself. Where I live, we call it “Meh-zoor-ee.”

**RaleighRally** or **RallyRaleigh** is an alliteration and therefore _maybe_ a half rhyme in that the initial consonants are the same sound. But that’s just my opinion about alliteration. It’s definitely not a true rhyme.  
– “Double R, Superstar! Who in the hell do you think you are?” – Robert Redford’s kids addressing him upon his arrival home.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rr-user-names/591538/60 "2011-08-06T12:03:59Z")

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> [@Una\_Persson](#):
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> I am not allowed to discuss this in the detail it needs in ATMB, and outside of it, I’m not going to paint that giant snark target on myself again to receive further threats and abuse. In short, your claim that “88,” **in lieu of any other evidence from his posting behavior** , was all it took to “peg” him as a Nazi, are entirely unconvincing to me. Obviously, you dispute my opinion.

I don’t have an opinion on Huerta88 specifically, other than that if he’s been around here this long, he’s probably good folk, but it’s not like people were making up the “88” association out of thin air. It’s a well-known code across the web. There have been more than one neo-Nazi troll register here using that tag. I agree that each poster deserves to be judged individually, but I don’t think it’s wholly unreasonable that that name would set a few red flags waving.

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