# Rubbing Diogenes' Nose in Reality **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 20, 2010, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698 "2010-01-20T15:18:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/181 "2010-01-21T15:40:35Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > This thread has nothing to do with taunting Democrats about losing an election, and everything to do with taunting \*\*Dio \*\*for his recent trend of being absolutely 100% dead-certain sure about things, right up until the second where he’s proven incontrovertably wrong, at which point he furiously backpedals and never really cared. This. **Dio** and **Shodan** are constantly looking for “gotcha!” moments, and when one of them scores, it’s only fair to applaud [del]them for all the time they’ve wasted[/del] their hard work. It’s got _nothing at all_ to do with partisanship in this case, even if the gotcha was a political one. If you skim back through the thread you’ll see that nearly all the people weighing in against **Dio** are other liberal types (like me). ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/182 "2010-01-21T15:41:48Z")
> [@tacoloco](#): > > But given who’s doing the taunting, it’s a reasonable conclusion that Shodan is thumbing his nose at Dems and/or liberals at the same time. No it isn’t - if I meant to say Democrats, I would have said Democrats. I cannot stop you people from refusing to read for comprehension, and it tends to be a self-reinforcing cycle, where one clown says 'you said A but you **really** mean B" and then everyone else who didn’t read the OP takes it as gospel. But that doesn’t mean it’s real. I don’t always take the trouble I should to be clearly specific but as demonstrated by the above, it doesn’t always help anyway. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/183 "2010-01-21T15:45:36Z")
> [@tacoloco](#): > > But given who’s doing the taunting, it’s a reasonable conclusion that Shodan is thumbing his nose at Dems and/or liberals at the same time. Only if **Diogenes** is now code for “Democrats and liberals”. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/184 "2010-01-21T15:52:00Z")
“\*\*Diogenesian \*\*thuggery, Boston style”… nah, it just doesn’t ring right. ---
**Author:** ![KLR\_650](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c4cdca/32.png) [@KLR\_650](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KLR_650)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/185 "2010-01-21T15:59:54Z")
Friends, Shodan rules. If you call yourself Diogenes, does this prove that you are in love with yourself? Wouldn’t “Adonis” be more appropriate? Adonis consoles himself that Brown is pro-“choice.” (I CHOOSE to believe that this THING in my womb is not a baby.) So, Adonis, is abortion the only issue that really matters to you? Why? Regards, Aristotle, the most brilliantest philosopher who ever lived. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/186 "2010-01-21T16:01:31Z")
> [@Mr\_Smashy](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > Originally Posted by Diogenes the Cynic > > > > Americans disapprove of Congress, not Obama. > > Of course, this is complete bullshit. But poor **Diogenes** is incapable of smelling bullshit any longer. All this rubbing his nose in it has had a deleterious effect on that sensitive organ. I blame you, **Shodan**. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/187 "2010-01-21T16:06:58Z")
> [@Lionne](#): > > Link, please? [Link](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=548017). This is where the links in the OP came from, btw. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/188 "2010-01-21T16:08:57Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > This. > > **Dio** and **Shodan** are constantly looking for “gotcha!” moments, and when one of them scores, it’s only fair to applaud [del]them for all the time they’ve wasted[/del] their hard work. And let me add that \*\*Shodan \*\*is every bit as pig headed as **Diogenes** , if not more so. I rarely even bother to respond to his posts. ---
**Author:** ![Lionne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Lionne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lionne)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/189 "2010-01-21T16:12:16Z")
Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/190 "2010-01-21T16:12:24Z")
> [@KLR\_650](#): > > Friends, > > Shodan rules. You heard it, boys. Hitting below the belt, hair-pulling, and attacking random members of the audience are now allowed. Also crying. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/191 "2010-01-21T16:15:39Z")
> [@tacoloco](#): > > But given who’s doing the taunting, it’s a reasonable conclusion that Shodan is thumbing his nose at Dems and/or liberals at the same time. EGAD! Thought Crime Alert, Thought Crime Alert: Consult the precogs immediately. (1984 meets The Minority Report meets the left-leaning SDMB. Scary territory, indeed.) ---
**Author:** ![KLR\_650](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c4cdca/32.png) [@KLR\_650](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KLR_650)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/192 "2010-01-21T16:16:00Z")
Sorry Shodan, On the basis of subsequent posts, I may have to re-evaluate you. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/193 "2010-01-21T16:21:39Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > You heard it, boys. Hitting below the belt, hair-pulling, and attacking random members of the audience are now allowed. Also crying. I laughed. ---
**Author:** ![KLR\_650](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c4cdca/32.png) [@KLR\_650](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KLR_650)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/194 "2010-01-21T16:28:07Z")
Dear Shodan, OK, Shodan, I have re-evaluated you, and my verdict is now in. Good man. Sincerely, Aristotle, a truly brilliant philosopher ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/195 "2010-01-21T16:31:43Z")
> [@Mr\_Smashy](#): > > Of course, this is complete bullshit. > > [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/14/AR2010011403558.html](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/14/AR2010011403558.html) It’s 50%, dipshit. I already posted the link showing all recent polls. The current aggregate is 50%. Try reading threads before you make yourself look like a retard. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/196 "2010-01-21T16:33:13Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > This. > > **Dio** and **Shodan** are constantly looking for “gotcha!” moments, and when one of them scores, it’s only fair to applaud [del]them for all the time they’ve wasted[/del] their hard work. Cite for me doing this? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/197 "2010-01-21T16:35:46Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > I’ll happily agree that Dio isn’t representative of your average voter in Massacchusetts (or however many double letters the damned state has). For that matter, given how very far left I am, neither am I. However, the Democratic Party is not liberal by the standards of a lot of our peer nations. I’m not sure if you expect me to disagree with that last sentence, but I don’t-- I agree. Still, that has nothing to do with what were discussing in that GD thread. ---
**Author:** ![KLR\_650](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c4cdca/32.png) [@KLR\_650](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KLR_650)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/198 "2010-01-21T16:38:52Z")
I ain’t tryin’ to be the moderator, really. But, DIOGENES, when you call somebody the word you used in #195, it don’t help your own self. Rules aside. And I’m gonna stop callin’ you Adonis. Promise. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/199 "2010-01-21T16:40:12Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > I’m not sure if you expect me to disagree with that last sentence, but I don’t-- I agree. Still, that has nothing to do with what were discussing in that GD thread. Is anyone confused about this but you? ETA: > [@KLR\_650](#): > > But, DIOGENES, when you call somebody the word you used in #195, it don’t help your own self. Stop being such a fucking aggregate. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/200 "2010-01-21T16:45:14Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Is anyone confused about this but you? I really don’t care. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698.md?page=11)