# Rubbing Diogenes' Nose in Reality **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 20, 2010, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698 "2010-01-20T15:18:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/321 "2010-01-22T17:32:39Z")
> [@KLR\_650](#): > > Your views have a religious, not scientific, cast. Given my real views, that’s pretty funny. > [@](#): > > Rather than engage in it. I’ve engaged in it, and this isn’t the first time. I just continue to dismiss your views. > [@](#): > > New data could produce new theories, right? ‘Meet the new theory, same as the old theory.’ Yes, I am sure new data will produce new theories. I’m also sure that people with preconceived notions will try to use some of that data to prove what they already know in their hearts. That’s one of those things people do. (You said a couple of times in the previous thread that all the racial equality side could do was poke holes in the data supporting your side, as if the data wasn’t particularly important because the conclusion is so obvious.) > [@](#): > > P.S. Have you already ruled out the _possibility_ of new evidence which could suggest some role for “nature?” I think nature has a role in some phenotypes, yes. Racism pops up when we start discussing the inherent qualities of human beings as divided into races - groups that don’t have a firm genetic definition or any particularly solid basis for existence, by the way. Their definitions are cultural and not genetic, and they are usually based on appearance alone. Where would you rate the Maori, by the way? You don’t seem to think much of indigenous groups on the whole. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/322 "2010-01-22T17:33:51Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > “Support” in the sense of “vote for”. Less than one American in four support Barack Obama, then. ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/323 "2010-01-22T17:40:11Z")
> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > Not no matter who the Republicans run. If they continue to trot out candidates who are too socially conservative and want to make/support laws based on that I will continue to vote against them even if the Dems put a ham sandwich and a side of pickle up for their ticket. > > Fiscally I agree with a lot of Republican ideas, but I cannot and will not vote for a candidate who wants to push their Christian moral agenda\* > > - > - and I’m not even an atheist See, I have the opposite view. I feel like the Christian moral agenda is more easily fought back than the encroaching tax burden, which is why my fiscal attitudes tend more heavily influence my decisions of who to vote for. I admit, though, this may well be a function of the area I live, where the combined taxes tend to be quite high, and liberalism is the dominant social view. ---
**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/324 "2010-01-22T17:45:08Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Fuck off, skinhead. [QUOTE=Restricted language in the Pit] The following expressions should not be directed at other posters. * * * fuck you and variants, e.g., go fuck yourself, fuck off and die [/QUOTE] > **[Restricted language in the Pit](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=508858)** > > The following expressions should not be directed at other posters. cunt and variants, e.g., cuntlapper motherfucker cocksucker fuck you and variants, e.g., go fuck yourself, fuck off and die suck/lick my dick/cock and variants Expressions not... Please avoid this in the future. No warning issued. **Gfactor** Pit Moderator ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/325 "2010-01-22T17:49:50Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Obama gets, at a rough but educated estimate, 80-90% support on the SDMB. I expect he will get the same in 2012, no matter who the Republicans run. > > Hell, I bet he could be photographed raping a dead nun on the White House lawn and still poll over 50% on the SDMB. > > Regards, > Shodan And if he was the one that actually killed the nun, **Der Trihs** would run to assist the campaign. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/326 "2010-01-22T18:01:36Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Less than one American in four support Barack Obama, then. The SDMB doesn’t reflect America, certainly. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/327 "2010-01-22T18:13:55Z")
Well, not my corner of it, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/328 "2010-01-22T18:18:29Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > The SDMB doesn’t reflect America, certainly. > > Regards, > Shodan Sadly, no. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/329 "2010-01-22T23:35:36Z")
> [@Gfactor](#): > > [Restricted language in the Pit - The BBQ Pit - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=508858) > > Please avoid this in the future. No warning issued. > > **Gfactor** > Pit Moderator Why? Did you believe a seasoned campaigner like Dio was unaware of the rule? ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/330 "2010-01-23T00:10:46Z")
No, I think it’s because they know the new rules are BS and killing the forum and they aren’t going to make it worse by going for maximum enforcement. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/331 "2010-01-23T00:12:24Z")
> [@Malacandra](#): > > Why? Did you believe a seasoned campaigner like Dio was unaware of the rule? This is a pretty standard boilerplate (non) warning that I’ve seen used for a multitude of posters. It’s not a “special” one for **Dio**. ---
**Author:** ![BMada](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@BMada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMada)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/332 "2010-01-23T00:42:02Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > You don’t seem to think much of indigenous groups on the whole. Seems like the perfect tag line for Cat Whisperer. ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/333 "2010-01-23T01:14:14Z")
> [@BMada](#): > > Seems like the perfect tag line for Cat Whisperer. Dude, give it up. She worded it incorrectly and then fixed it. Ease up and get over it. And before you assume, I am one of the _last_ people to blow sunshine up **Cat Whisperer** ’s ass. Get.over.it. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/334 "2010-01-23T02:07:56Z")
Women and their periods, I swear. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/335 "2010-01-23T02:48:58Z")
Heavily insured, I take it? ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/45deac/32.png) [@Evil\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_One)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/336 "2010-01-23T05:51:47Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Obama isn’t going anywhere, bitches. His approval rating is still rock solid. Not for another three years anyway. Until then he’ll continue starring in the hot new movie…“Carter II, Electric Boogaloo” ---
**Author:** ![Venetian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/aeb1de/32.png) [@Venetian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Venetian)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/337 "2010-01-23T05:59:53Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > [http://www.dailykos.com/](http://www.dailykos.com/) Here is a neutral site that says Obama’s approval is 54 and unfavorable 44. On what planet is daily kos neutral? That’s a ridiculous claim. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/338 "2010-01-23T06:00:21Z")
> [@Venetian](#): > > On what planet is daily kos neutral? That’s a ridiculous claim. No more ridiculous than your posts, Man Hands. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/339 "2010-01-23T06:33:12Z")
::Crick-ITs:: ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2010, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/340 "2010-01-23T06:36:54Z")
> [@Venetian](#): > > On what planet is daily kos neutral? That’s a ridiculous claim. it is equal to the ones being proffered in this thread. There are other stations than Fox. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698.md?page=18)