# Rubbing Diogenes' Nose in Reality **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 20, 2010, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698 "2010-01-20T15:18:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Palo\_Verde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/65b543/32.png) [@Palo\_Verde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palo_Verde)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/41 "2010-01-20T17:37:15Z")
I don’t begrudge Shodan a little crowing. Dio was an ass, and what’s worse he was wrong. I have no doubt that if their positions were reversed, Dio would be crowing and gloating the same way. ---
**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/42 "2010-01-20T17:37:47Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Because the Republicans are, what, four out of five for special elections. This bodes well for November. Plus I get to Pit one of the most pig-headed partisans on the SDMB, and gloat. Which makes you a typical right wing jackass. Oh wait. We already knew that. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/43 "2010-01-20T17:38:20Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > At least Brown is pro-choice. If the teabaggers want to keep loading the Senate with pro-abortion Republians, that’s ok with me. > > It’s obvious the Democrats were never going to keep a supermajority anyway, and if the Republicans start trying to filibuster everything like little babies, it will only backfire on them anyway. > Sorry to disappoint, but I don’t actually care that much about the result. It’s one seat. Carry on. You going for the world backpedaling record, **Dio**? ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/44 "2010-01-20T17:44:09Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > At least Brown is pro-choice. If the teabaggers want to keep loading the Senate with pro-abortion Republians, that’s ok with me. > > It’s obvious the Democrats were never going to keep a supermajority anyway, and if the Republicans start trying to filibuster everything like little babies, it will only backfire on them anyway. > Sorry to disappoint, but I don’t actually care that much about the result. It’s one seat. Carry on. Oh, you’re no fun. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/45 "2010-01-20T17:44:40Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Sorry to disappoint, but I don’t actually care that much about the result. It’s one seat. Carry on. [QUOTE=Diogenes of Yesteryear, month, day, whatever] I can’t wait to see this little bitch, Brown, get his ass handed to him tomorrow. [/QUOTE] Does not compute. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/46 "2010-01-20T17:47:35Z")
“I stand before you to sit behind you, to tell you something I know nothing about!” ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/47 "2010-01-20T17:48:00Z")
> [@Palo\_Verde](#): > > I don’t begrudge Shodan a little crowing. Dio was an ass, and what’s worse he was wrong. I have no doubt that if their positions were reversed, Dio would be crowing and gloating the same way. Agreed, which is precisely why **Shodan** shouldn’t be doing it. Isn’t it better to show that you’re better? ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/48 "2010-01-20T17:48:51Z")
I hate most Republicans (or at least their politics, not that I like Dems much better), but I’ve seen \*\*Dio \*\*being a little crazy with the assertions lately. Hilarious to see him get his ass handed to him like this. A+ thread, would read again. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/49 "2010-01-20T17:50:14Z")
What’s the contradiction? Being wrong about a prediction doesn’t mean I have to care deeply about it. I always want to see the Packers get annihilated – maybe even predict it – but if they win, it doesn’t ruin my life. This is about the same way to me. It matters far more to the teabaggers than it does to me. ---
**Author:** ![Slappy\_the\_Clown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e8c25b/32.png) [@Slappy\_the\_Clown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slappy_the_Clown)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/50 "2010-01-20T17:50:29Z")
Flip. Flop. Twist. And shout. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/51 "2010-01-20T17:51:24Z")
“I can’t wait…” =/= “I want…” Dude, you were wrong. It’s okay to say so once in a while. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/52 "2010-01-20T17:52:26Z")
I already said I was wrong about my prediction. So what? That doesn’t mean I CARE. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/53 "2010-01-20T17:53:16Z")
Dude, you are so Zen it’s making my balls hurt. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/54 "2010-01-20T17:57:39Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > There are a lot of reasons he won. Among them is that his advertisements didn’t mention he was a Republican. Also, he outright lied about the HCR bill, he even did it in his victory speech. > > Most people aren’t especially informed and the person with the commercials that appeal better and the personality has an advantage. > > Is this bad for Democrats, sure. It’s more bad for the country though, this dude’s politics are typical Republican. Ha. Wake up, son. The people who switched their allegiance from 2008 were those who voted for Obama. So were they poorly informed then? Or now? [Check out these lovely maps.](http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2010/01/19/us/politics/massachusetts-election-map.html?ref=politics) Particularly the one on the right. Then think about November. Have a WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL day, friend. :D:D:D ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/55 "2010-01-20T18:04:48Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I already said I was wrong about my prediction. So what? That doesn’t mean I CARE. So then why did you say you couldn’t wait? Or is “I can’t wait” the Diogenized way of saying “I’d like, but don’t care either way”? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/56 "2010-01-20T18:05:58Z")
The “independents” aren’t Obama voters, they’re teabaggers who don’t want to identify as Republican. You should also remember that this dude campaigned as a liberal Republican against a fairly disinterested opponent. Obama isn’t going anywhere, bitches. His approval rating is still rock solid. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/57 "2010-01-20T18:06:27Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I already said I was wrong about my prediction. So what? That doesn’t mean I CARE. No, but the amount you posted and the passion of those posts and the contortions you went through to try to defend your positions? Oh, yeah. Thanks for embarking on this strategy today to keep the laughfest from ending. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/58 "2010-01-20T18:07:02Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > So then why did you say you couldn’t wait? Or is “I can’t wait” the Diogenized way of saying “I’d like, but don’t care either way”? That pretty much sums it up. ---
**Author:** ![BorgHunter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@BorgHunter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BorgHunter)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/59 "2010-01-20T18:07:19Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I already said I was wrong about my prediction. So what? That doesn’t mean I CARE. Of course you care. Politically interested individuals who have preferences care about these things. It’s alright to care about something you ended up on the losing side of; there is no need to get all sour grapes because you lost. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/60 "2010-01-20T18:08:19Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > The “independents” aren’t Obama voters, they’re teabaggers who don’t want to identify as Republican. > > You should also remember that this dude campaigned as a liberal Republican against a fairly disinterested opponent. > > Obama isn’t going anywhere, bitches. His approval rating is still rock solid. Check out the map I linked to earlier. Then imagine this place called…Reality. The gates are always open. You can just walk right in. Really. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698.md?page=4)