# Rubbing Diogenes' Nose in Reality **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 20, 2010, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698 "2010-01-20T15:18:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/61 "2010-01-20T18:08:28Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Obama isn’t going anywhere, bitches. His approval rating is still rock solid. 'Fuck’s that got to do with anything? ---
**Author:** ![cards](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecd19e/32.png) [@cards](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cards)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/62 "2010-01-20T18:10:04Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > The “independents” aren’t Obama voters, they’re teabaggers who don’t want to identify as Republican. > > You should also remember that this dude campaigned as a liberal Republican against a fairly disinterested opponent. > > Obama isn’t going anywhere, bitches. His approval rating is still rock solid. Really? [http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/01/11/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry6084818.shtml](http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/01/11/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry6084818.shtml) ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/63 "2010-01-20T18:11:40Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > No, but the amount you posted and the passion of those posts and the contortions you went through to try to defend your positions? Oh, yeah. > > Thanks for embarking on this strategy today to keep the laughfest from ending. Most of my posts in that thread were about the MAP issue (and my position on that issue remains perfectly and irrefutably the correct one), not about the outcome. I only made two or three posts predicting the outcome. nI was getting a little tired of the smugness and snottiness of the righties about the polls leading up to the election. That’s ok, good lost to stupid again. My bad for expecting anything different. I should know better than to bet against stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Smashy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mr\_Smashy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Smashy)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/64 "2010-01-20T18:11:42Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > The “independents” aren’t Obama voters, they’re teabaggers who don’t want to identify as Republican. > > You should also remember that this dude campaigned as a liberal Republican against a fairly disinterested opponent. > > Obama isn’t going anywhere, bitches. His approval rating is still rock solid. Virtually everything you’ve said here is wrong. Obama won the independents in his election. Brown campaigned as a conservative. His disapproval rating after one year has set the record for an elected president. The only thing you got right was about the broad he ran against. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/65 "2010-01-20T18:12:04Z")
I am \*so \*going to bookmark this thread for the next time \*\*Shodan \*\*claims that Liberals are childish, petulant, or ridiculously partisan. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/66 "2010-01-20T18:13:45Z")
> [@Mr\_Smashy](#): > > Obama won the independents in his election. > > He campaigned as a conservative. Um… what? He frankly admitted that he’d raise taxes on the wealthy, endorsed abortion rights and pledged to end DADT. What are conservatives into in Smashyland? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/67 "2010-01-20T18:14:06Z")
> [@cards](#): > > Really? > > [http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/01/11/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry6084818.shtml](http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/01/11/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry6084818.shtml) Really. Rock solid. He’s actually slightly above where Reagan was at this same point. In the midst of an inherited recession and two armed conflicts, his numbers are phenomenal. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/68 "2010-01-20T18:15:04Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Most of my posts in that thread were about the MAP issue (and my position on that issue remains perfectly and irrefutably the correct one), not about the outcome. I only made two or three posts predicting the outcome. nI was getting a little tired of the smugness and snottiness of the righties about the polls leading up to the election. > > That’s ok, good lost again. My bad for expecting anything different. I knpw better. Haha. Fine. But that doesn’t address you posts in the other threads discussing this. But hey, I’ll leave you alone. It’s just too good a day!!! ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/69 "2010-01-20T18:15:49Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Um… what? He frankly admitted that he’d raise taxes on the wealthy, endorsed abortion rights and pledged to end DADT. What are conservatives into in Smashyland? Really? He said all that? Maybe he’s not so bad. Doesn’t sound like much of a conservative victory. Maybe it was just about him wanting the job more than Coakley, who seemed a little ambivalent about it. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/70 "2010-01-20T18:17:06Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Haha. Fine. But that doesn’t address you posts in the other threads discussing this. But hey, I’ll leave you alone. It’s just too good a day!!! You’re right. It’s a victory for abortion rights, gay rights and taxing the rich. I should be happy. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/71 "2010-01-20T18:17:40Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Really? He said all that? Maybe he’s not so bad. Doesn’t sound like much of a conservative victory. Maybe it was just about him wanting the job more than Coakly, who seemed a little ambivalent about it. Obama, not Brown. I don’t what Brown said about abortion and DADT, but I’m guessing he’s not a fan. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/72 "2010-01-20T18:18:52Z")
Brown is pro-choice. I know that. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/73 "2010-01-20T18:20:06Z")
I see what happened there. **Smashy** edited his post after I quoted it to say “Brown campaigned as a conservative.” ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/74 "2010-01-20T18:20:59Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > You’re right. It’s a victory for abortion rights, gay rights and taxing the rich. I should be happy. A victory? Bwaaahahaha. You just won’t walk through that gate, will you? Come on, you can do it. It’s wide open. No electric fence. Here, come on in… ::extends a hand to **Dio** :: ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bb73d2/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Joe_Meager)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/75 "2010-01-20T18:20:59Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Really. Rock solid. He’s actually slightly above where Reagan was at this same point. In the midst of an inherited recession and two armed conflicts, his numbers are phenomenal. This remind anyone else of “There is no presence of American infidels in the city of Baghdad!” ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/76 "2010-01-20T18:27:10Z")
Or “We know where they [the WMD’s] are. They’re in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.” ? ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Smashy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mr\_Smashy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Smashy)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/77 "2010-01-20T18:27:51Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Um… what? He frankly admitted that he’d raise taxes on the wealthy, endorsed abortion rights and pledged to end DADT. What are conservatives into in Smashyland? Well, maybe a better way to put it is a conservative by Mass standards (like Christie was for NJ). I don’t live in Mass so I haven’t seen his commercials. But I do know what the press has called him [http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2612313/scott\_browns\_lessons\_for\_political.html?cat=9](http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2612313/scott_browns_lessons_for_political.html?cat=9) > [@](#): > > Scott Brown proved that one can run as a conservative in Massachusetts, of all places, and still win. One suspects that people in Massachusetts found an out of the closet conservative refreshing and reacted accordingly. [http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2010/01/10/scott\_brown\_showcases\_his\_more\_conservative\_leanings/](http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2010/01/10/scott_brown_showcases_his_more_conservative_leanings/) > [@](#): > > State Senator Scott P. Brown laughed last week when [Hannity] asked him to elaborate on his politics: By describing himself as a fiscal conservative and an independent, did Brown mean to suggest he’s a social liberal? > > “No,’’ Brown chuckled in the radio interview. “I’m not known as a social liberal, that’s for sure.’’ I guess he was more of a ‘big tenter’ conservative [http://dallasmorningviewsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/01/is-scott-brown.html](http://dallasmorningviewsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2010/01/is-scott-brown.html) ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/78 "2010-01-20T18:28:12Z")
That post was based on a misunderstanding of RNATB’s post, dumbasses. Brown actually is pro-choice, though, so that’s a good thing. We can protect cloture on Supreme Court choices. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Smashy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mr\_Smashy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Smashy)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/79 "2010-01-20T18:31:20Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I see what happened there. **Smashy** edited his post after I quoted it to say “Brown campaigned as a conservative.” re-check ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698/80 "2010-01-20T18:33:39Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > Agreed, which is precisely why **Shodan** shouldn’t be doing it. Isn’t it better to show that you’re better? Sorry **Airman** , but you sound like a goddam Democrat here. It’s part of how they keep snatching defeat from the jaws of victory; hardly something I’d expect you to want the Republicans to emulate. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rubbing-diogenes-nose-in-reality/525698.md?page=5)