# rudolph/misfit toys question **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 24, 2001, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-misfit-toys-question/94969 "2001-11-24T00:52:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![riserius1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ab992/32.png) [@riserius1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/riserius1)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-misfit-toys-question/94969/1 "2001-11-24T00:52:12Z")
okay, almost everyone owns or at least has seen the Rudolph the red-nosed reindeer special. Now, we get explanations of why all the misfit toys are misfits(the jack-in-the-box is a charlie-in-the-box, the train has square wheels, etc). My question is: what’s up with the doll? There is a little doll with pigtails that there appears to be nothing wrong with. Yet, somehow, she is a misfit. Any theories as to why? Chris W ---
**Author:** ![jabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/db5fbb/32.png) [@jabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jabe)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-misfit-toys-question/94969/2 "2001-11-24T01:00:56Z")
The thing I never got was, who doesn’t want a squirt gun that shoots jelly? ord knows i do. No idea about the doll, though. My brothers and I get into this exact discussion every year. peace, JB ---
**Author:** ![Scarlett67](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scarlett67/32/7387_2.png) [@Scarlett67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scarlett67)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-misfit-toys-question/94969/3 "2001-11-24T01:10:01Z")
Maybe she’s a metaphor for all the “misfit,” picked-on little kids that also have nothing wrong with them. Scarlett, former misfit ---
**Author:** ![Sylkyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/da6949/32.png) [@Sylkyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylkyn)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-misfit-toys-question/94969/4 "2001-11-24T01:11:57Z")
My sister and I have had this discussion every year since the sixties. The only thing we can figure out is she doesn’t have a nose! Or possibly, doesn’t do “anything”, like cry, or wet her pants, or any of the things she says other dolls do. Of course, Raggedy Ann didn’t do a thing, either, and look at _her_ popularity. Personally, I think they threw her in because she has a soprano voice and all the other toys were masculine, and the singing would be ridiculous with that high voice in there. She was the token female toy. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-misfit-toys-question/94969/5 "2001-11-24T01:12:47Z")
This site has lots of info on the Rankin/Bass special: [http://www.tvparty.com/xmasrudolph.html](http://www.tvparty.com/xmasrudolph.html) > [@](#): > > The Number one question that we get asked about the special is: What is wrong with the MISFIT GIRL DOLL? Arthur Rankin answers this question on page five of my book. Apparently, her problem was more psychological than physical. I have recently obtained THE original 10-28-63 draft of the script by Romeo Muller and the MISFIT GIRL DOLL does not appear in this first draft. ---
**Author:** ![Lyllyan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b2d939/32.png) [@Lyllyan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lyllyan)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-misfit-toys-question/94969/6 "2001-11-24T02:06:18Z")
As stated by the doll (I think), the Island of Misfit Toys was for toys that were wrong or no longer loved. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-misfit-toys-question/94969/7 "2001-11-24T04:55:31Z")
Wasn’t there a thread that addressed this issue, as well as the Herkie/Hermie one too? And it had something to do with the doll’s mental or emotional problems…I know, kind of deep for a kid’s special. ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-misfit-toys-question/94969/8 "2001-11-24T05:58:55Z")
\<\\> That’s the saddest part. That doll is a G.I. Joe. ☹ 😃 I know, I know, I’ll be quiet now. Ranchoth ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Harvey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac8455/32.png) [@Max\_Harvey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Harvey)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-misfit-toys-question/94969/9 "2001-11-24T06:06:47Z")
On a related note, a [direct-to-video sequel](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005NB93/qid=1006581891/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_3_1/102-3997784-4820121) is now available. It’s CGI. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-misfit-toys-question/94969/10 "2001-11-24T16:26:23Z")
Since tonight is the night CBS airs _Rudolph_, I find it fitting to link to one of my all time favorite SDMB threads. From Christmas of last year, a wacky thread that made Threadspotting. [This thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=48886) features humorous insights into the poor lil’ doll’s problem, and a look at a bird assassination attempt that puts JFK and O.J. to shame. ---
**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-misfit-toys-question/94969/11 "2001-11-24T16:30:47Z")
Yes, that thread also features insight into the Hermie/Herbie Debate (and a “Is Hermie Gay?” in there too.) Also, bashing Santa Claus, “Who’s Burl Ives?,” and the fact that, if you believe the opening credits, the show was produced in 1064. No.500 Mobo85 Posting Association of America ---
**Author:** ![minlokwat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/minlokwat/32/2844_2.png) [@minlokwat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minlokwat)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-misfit-toys-question/94969/12 "2001-11-24T17:40:47Z")
Also featured on that link are the details of the gruesome **Mis-Fit Murder Scene**. (About half way down page one). Watching the end credits as the horror is about to unfold never fails to give me the willies. And all this time we were led to believe that the fat guy and his band of co-hort elves could be trusted. ---
**Author:** ![minlokwat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/minlokwat/32/2844_2.png) [@minlokwat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minlokwat)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2001, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-misfit-toys-question/94969/13 "2001-11-24T17:44:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by mobo85 \* > \*\*[This thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=48886) features humorous insights into the poor lil’ doll’s problem, and a look at a bird assassination attempt that puts JFK and O.J. to shame. \*\* Sheesh. Sorry about that **mobo** I guess maybe I should, like, read the entire post next time before replying. Ah well, what can I say. Also, congrats on number 500.