# Rudolph to enter guilty pleas.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-to-enter-guilty-pleas/298493>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 8, 2005, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-to-enter-guilty-pleas/298493 "2005-04-08T23:26:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2005, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-to-enter-guilty-pleas/298493/21 "2005-04-09T16:28:38Z")

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As a pro-lifer, this guy has done so much harm to our cause that I hope he gets put away for a long, long time. I am avidly anti-abortion and would have no trouble at all voting on the evidence. And there’s a lot of us out there.

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**Author:** ![ParentalAdvisory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@ParentalAdvisory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParentalAdvisory)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2005, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-to-enter-guilty-pleas/298493/22 "2005-04-09T16:32:06Z")

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> [@Nametag](#):
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> Abortion comes up because he bombed abortion clinics, nimrod. RTFA.

Man, you’re crazy.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2005, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-to-enter-guilty-pleas/298493/23 "2005-04-09T17:52:18Z")

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> [@PunditLisa](#):
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> Meh. A _real_ man would have cut it off with a hand saw.

I mean, hell, why do you think they’re called _hand saws_? (This reminds me of a missing episode of _Home Improvement_ when Tim gets really religious right before Y2K…)

> [@SpectBrain](#):
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> As mentioned above, I don’t understand what his motive was for the Olympic Park bombing? What did he hope to gain, other than notoriety?

[“Presumably, the Olympics were targeted for a combination of multiracial and “New World Order” overtones.”](http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/crime/terrorists/eric-rudolph/)

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**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2005, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-to-enter-guilty-pleas/298493/24 "2005-04-09T22:18:34Z")

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> [@DoctorJ](#):
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> All it takes is one anti-abortion nutbar on the jury, and he could potentially walk. The odds of that are not bad at all, especially once you death-qualify the jury (since big-time abortion opponents tend to support the death penalty, and vice versa).

I seriously doubt it. You **might** get a hung jury, but no way in hell you’d get a nullification.

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**Author:** ![Abbie\_Carmichael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/49beb7/32.png) [@Abbie\_Carmichael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abbie_Carmichael)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2005, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-to-enter-guilty-pleas/298493/25 "2005-04-10T05:31:45Z")

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> [@Mehitabel](#):
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> As a pro-lifer, this guy has done so much harm to our cause that I hope he gets put away for a long, long time. I am avidly anti-abortion and would have no trouble at all voting on the evidence. And there’s a lot of us out there.

I’m pretty much as pro-life as it gets and I agree. If I felt the DP was warranted after hearing all the evidence, I wouldn’t have had any qualms voting for it.

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2005, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-to-enter-guilty-pleas/298493/26 "2005-04-10T05:42:27Z")

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I would rather see Rudolph alive, forced to admit to 1st degree murder and a number of heinous crimes, to execute him while he’s claiming to be some kind of savior or freedom fighter. There’s less of a martyr factor, IMO. And we can be guaranteed that he won’t be allowed to walk by the jury nullification of a bunch of Bubbas and Gomers who mistakenly think he actually did a good thing.

Let’s hope they put him in Supermax; being Manuel Noriega’s bitch would be too good for him.

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**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2005, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-to-enter-guilty-pleas/298493/27 "2005-04-10T14:46:50Z")

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I oppose the Death Penalty so I find this as acceptable. Though **Squink** raises an interesting question about taking the fall for co-conspirators.

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**Author:** ![Imasquare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Imasquare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Imasquare)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2005, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-to-enter-guilty-pleas/298493/28 "2005-04-11T00:56:01Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> So you can be a serial terrorist/bomber/anti-abortion nutjob and still live? His victims were executed for far less–really, for nothing at all.

Wouldn’t spending every single day of the rest of your life in some hell-hole of a prison be a far worse punishment than death?

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2005, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-to-enter-guilty-pleas/298493/29 "2005-04-11T17:16:58Z")

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The guy seems unclear on the concept of “copping a plea” or else is a poor negotiator. Bargaining the prosecution down to four life sentences without parole is not a “win.”

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2005, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-to-enter-guilty-pleas/298493/30 "2005-04-11T18:00:48Z")

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> [@Imasquare](#):
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> Wouldn’t spending every single day of the rest of your life in some hell-hole of a prison be a far worse punishment than death?

As an aside, I’ll just point out that I hate this argument. Obviously Rudolph would rather get life (even four of them) rather than death. Granted maybe you would rather opt for the death penalty, but I think the determination should be left to the defendant. If they want death, give them life. And vice versa.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2005, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-to-enter-guilty-pleas/298493/31 "2005-04-11T18:21:24Z")

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> [@Diogenes](#):
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> It amazes me that some people have turned him into a folk hero.

_Shudder_. These “some people” are practically my neighbors. Don’t remind me.

> [@Abbie Carmichael](#):
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> I’m pretty much as pro-life as it gets and I agree. If I felt the DP was warranted after hearing all the evidence, I wouldn’t have had any qualms voting for it.

You’re probably not as pro-life\* as it gets, unless you secretly approve of murdering abortion providers. There’s plenty of fanatics up in these here hills.

Daniel

- Using the term as a synonym for “anti-abortion” here, not literally.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2005, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-to-enter-guilty-pleas/298493/32 "2005-04-11T18:21:33Z")

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> [@Imasquare](#):
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> Wouldn’t spending every single day of the rest of your life in some hell-hole of a prison be a far worse punishment than death?

Then why is everyone on Death Row trying to get their sentence changed to Life In Prison?

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