# \[Rudolph\] You'll go down in history (like ???)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-youll-go-down-in-history-like/607008>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 21, 2011, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-youll-go-down-in-history-like/607008 "2011-12-21T22:34:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-youll-go-down-in-history-like/607008/21 "2011-12-22T00:39:46Z")

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Pinocchio for the first history reference

George Washington for the second.

Crazy how many different variations there are

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**Author:** ![Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maggie_the_Ocelot)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-youll-go-down-in-history-like/607008/22 "2011-12-22T01:01:54Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> No, Lincoln has two few. All of the “like” words have three or four syllables: Pinocchio, Monopoly, a light bulb.

Well, Pinocchio is wrong, too. It should be “like Dumbo”.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-youll-go-down-in-history-like/607008/23 "2011-12-22T01:07:01Z")

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Pinocchio has a nice rhythm.

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-youll-go-down-in-history-like/607008/24 "2011-12-22T01:20:27Z")

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I always thought the song stops after the lyrics “You’ll go down in his-to-ry” . End

Whose version are y’all listening to - Gene Autry’s? 'Cause I sure can’t hear any of the backgound singers singing anything. Matter of fact, there _aren’t_ any background singers!

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ara3-hDH6I)

Thanks 🙂

Q

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-youll-go-down-in-history-like/607008/25 "2011-12-22T01:21:45Z")

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Pinocchio and Columbus (mid-70s, central PA)

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**Author:** ![Scarlett67](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scarlett67/32/7387_2.png) [@Scarlett67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scarlett67)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-youll-go-down-in-history-like/607008/26 "2011-12-22T01:22:06Z")

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Lincoln!

I’ve grown to dislike this song because of its “lesson”: If you’re an outcast, the other kids will come to like you only if you can do something for THEM. :mad:

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-youll-go-down-in-history-like/607008/27 "2011-12-22T01:22:47Z")

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> [@Quasimodem](#):
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> I always thought the song stops after the lyrics “You’ll go down in his-to-ry” . End
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> Whose version are y’all listening to - Gene Autry’s? 'Cause I sure can’t hear any of the backgound singers singing anything. Matter of fact, there _aren’t_ any background singers!
> 
> [http://youtu.be/7ara3-hDH6I](http://youtu.be/7ara3-hDH6I)
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> Thanks 🙂
> 
> Q

Heh, no…these are lyrics that WE sing during the song. It’s just something that little kids add to the song when they sing it.

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**Author:** ![ZenBeam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/3ab097/32.png) [@ZenBeam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZenBeam)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-youll-go-down-in-history-like/607008/28 "2011-12-22T01:29:37Z")

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> [@Quasimodem](#):
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> I always thought the song stops after the lyrics “You’ll go down in his-to-ry” . End

I’d never heard of this either, **Quasimodem**. Now that I have, I’m glad I never came across this before.

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-youll-go-down-in-history-like/607008/29 "2011-12-22T01:33:17Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> Heh, no…these are lyrics that WE sing during the song. It’s just something that little kids add to the song when they sing it.

What a COUNTRY! 😃 I LOVE it!

I never knew that, **jayjay**! How very unique, and how very cute!🙂

Guess I got to the US too late to know all of this…

(Please don’t take offense at the word “cute”, okay?

Thanks

Q

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-youll-go-down-in-history-like/607008/30 "2011-12-22T01:41:59Z")

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> [@Quasimodem](#):
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> What a COUNTRY! 😃 I LOVE it!
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> I never knew that, **jayjay**! How very unique, and how very cute!🙂
> 
> Guess I got to the US too late to know all of this…
> 
> (Please don’t take offense at the word “cute”, okay?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Q

No offense taken, **Quasi**! I still do it, especially when my partner is in the car with me, because he looks at me like “This again?”

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**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-youll-go-down-in-history-like/607008/31 "2011-12-22T02:10:16Z")

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like Attilla the Hun

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-youll-go-down-in-history-like/607008/32 "2011-12-22T02:14:33Z")

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> [@standingwave](#):
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> Olive, the other reindeer  
> Used to laugh and call him names…
> 
> I love that mondegreen. 😃

I was just about to post that, as a kid, I always parsed the line in question as “his story” (Santa’s story?), which isn’t technically a Mondegreen, but, anyway, it never made sense to me to discuss a folk tale as being a part of actual history (yes I was very precocious, and deduced that Santa couldn’t exist when I was 6 years old and noticed that there was no land at the North Pole).

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**Author:** ![Motorgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e36b37/32.png) [@Motorgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Motorgirl)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-youll-go-down-in-history-like/607008/33 "2011-12-22T02:19:45Z")

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No, it goes like this:

Rudolph the red nosed reindeer (reindeer)  
Had a very shiny nose  
And if you ever saw it (saw it)  
You would even say it glows (like a lightbulb)

All of the other reindeer (reindeer)  
Used to laugh and call him names (like Pinocchio)  
They wouldn’t let poor Rudolph (Rudolph)  
Join in any reindeer games (like football)

Then one stormy Christmas eve  
Santa came to say,  
“Rudolph with your nose so bright, won’t you guide my sleigh tonight”

Then all of the other reindeer (reindeer)  
Laughed and shouted out with glee (yippee)  
“Rudolph the red nosed reindeer, you’ll go down in history!” (like Columbus)

I’m surprised you all don’t know that. Sheesh. 😉

P.S. Thanks\*\* IvoryTowerDenizen\*\* for typing all that out for me. 🙂

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-youll-go-down-in-history-like/607008/34 "2011-12-22T02:44:34Z")

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> [@Motorgirl](#):
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> P.S. Thanks\*\* IvoryTowerDenizen\*\* for typing all that out for me. 🙂

I was reading yours, impressed that we used the same punctuation and everything!

Then I saw your PS. 🙂

And I typed it on my iPad.

And you’re wrong, btw. 😃

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**Author:** ![heathen\_earthling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/13edae/32.png) [@heathen\_earthling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/heathen_earthling)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-youll-go-down-in-history-like/607008/35 "2011-12-22T02:57:39Z")

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In the pilot episode of _The Simpsons_, Bart says “like Atilla the Hun” (or attempts to, before Homer gets annoyed with him). I’ll take Bart Simpson as a trusty authority on the matter.

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-youll-go-down-in-history-like/607008/36 "2011-12-22T02:59:38Z")

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I feel like I’ve lost out on a huge piece of “Young Americana”.

Quasi

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**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-youll-go-down-in-history-like/607008/37 "2011-12-22T02:59:40Z")

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i always heard the george washington version, and was i the only one to hear the “shouted out with glee(like toothpaste!)” version?

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**Author:** ![SeaDragonTattoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@SeaDragonTattoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeaDragonTattoo)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-youll-go-down-in-history-like/607008/38 "2011-12-22T03:05:30Z")

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Except for the repeated words in these lines:

\*Rudolph the red nosed reindeer (reindeer)

And if you ever saw it (saw it)

All of the other reindeer (reindeer)

Then all of the other reindeer (reindeer)  
Laughed and shouted out with glee (with glee)\*

I’ve never heard the other ad-libs, and I’ve lived in the US all my 41 years. Maybe because I went to parochial school, where it was a struggle to get any non-church songs into the Christmas concert?

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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-youll-go-down-in-history-like/607008/39 "2011-12-22T03:10:06Z")

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> [@expectopatronum](#):
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> i always heard the george washington version, and was i the only one to hear the “shouted out with glee(like toothpaste!)” version?

I’ve never heard “with toothpaste.”

The response was always “yipee!”

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**Author:** ![expectopatronum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/expectopatronum/32/173_2.png) [@expectopatronum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/expectopatronum)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudolph-youll-go-down-in-history-like/607008/40 "2011-12-22T03:31:38Z")

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i always figured glee was some 70s toothpaste cause i mostly heard the toothpaste ad lib growing up in the 80s, but a quick google doesn’t show any toothpaste with that brand name. later on i heard the yipee version.

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