# Rudy Giuliani in critical condition in Florida hospital \[Now in the BBQ Pit\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 4, 2026, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudy-giuliani-in-critical-condition-in-florida-hospital-now-in-the-bbq-pit/1029768 "2026-05-04T00:21:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![ricepad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@ricepad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ricepad)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2026, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudy-giuliani-in-critical-condition-in-florida-hospital-now-in-the-bbq-pit/1029768/61 "2026-05-04T17:42:36Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > Giuliani is suffering “My name is **ricepad** , and I endorse this message.” ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2026, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudy-giuliani-in-critical-condition-in-florida-hospital-now-in-the-bbq-pit/1029768/62 "2026-05-04T18:31:45Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Stolen from elsewhere: > > BREAKING: Rudy Giuliani in “critical condition” but reportedly receiving very best medical care at Johns Hopkins Flooring and Drywall. I laughed. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2026, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudy-giuliani-in-critical-condition-in-florida-hospital-now-in-the-bbq-pit/1029768/63 "2026-05-04T20:51:30Z")
> [@Jasmine](#): > > “Wished him well” ?!! Heck, according to Right Wing propaganda, he is the reincarnation of Christ, so why doesn’t he just heal him instead? Healing magic doesn’t work on undead, _therefore_ Trump can’t use divine healing on Ghouliani. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2026, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudy-giuliani-in-critical-condition-in-florida-hospital-now-in-the-bbq-pit/1029768/64 "2026-05-04T21:23:39Z")
God DAMMIT! > **[Rudy Giuliani breathing on his own after being hospitalized for pneumonia](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/may/04/rudy-giuliani-pneumonia?CMP=share_btn_url)** > > Former New York City mayor, who was placed on ventilator, is also being monitored, a spokesperson said ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2026, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudy-giuliani-in-critical-condition-in-florida-hospital-now-in-the-bbq-pit/1029768/65 "2026-05-04T21:27:32Z")
I would still hold a mirror up to his nose to see if he is actually breathing, and not just going through the motions. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2026, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudy-giuliani-in-critical-condition-in-florida-hospital-now-in-the-bbq-pit/1029768/66 "2026-05-04T21:31:20Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Healing magic doesn’t work on undead, _therefore_ Trump can’t use divine healing on Ghouliani. No, but necromancy can work on undead, and who has a more romantic neck than Trump? [![](https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/117597-trumpneckrush-vrtc.jpg?c=9x16) ](https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/117597-trumpneckrush-vrtc.jpg?c=9x16) ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2026, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudy-giuliani-in-critical-condition-in-florida-hospital-now-in-the-bbq-pit/1029768/67 "2026-05-04T21:39:16Z")
On the one hand, he did perform admirably on 9/11. On the other hand, he instantly pissed away whatever credit he deserves for that, when he started denying that 9/11 ever happened. ---
**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2026, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudy-giuliani-in-critical-condition-in-florida-hospital-now-in-the-bbq-pit/1029768/68 "2026-05-04T21:47:33Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > God DAMMIT! I guess that Rudy won’t be joining the ranks of the good republicans any time soon. Shucks. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2026, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudy-giuliani-in-critical-condition-in-florida-hospital-now-in-the-bbq-pit/1029768/69 "2026-05-04T22:17:09Z")
I don’t think Rudy did anything after 9/11 that any other mayor wouldn’t have done. People kept saying how wonderful he was on 9/11- for what, exactly? ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2026, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudy-giuliani-in-critical-condition-in-florida-hospital-now-in-the-bbq-pit/1029768/70 "2026-05-04T23:01:18Z")
Well, the commander of the 779th Dental Squadron summarized Giuliani’s role thusly: > [@](#): > > On and after 9/11, Mayor Giuliani was out in front of the public and very visible. He visited ground zero at least six times on 9/11 and, as he states in his book “Leadership,” “I needed to see with my own eyes the disaster site and our rescue operations, and get a sense of what we would be dealing with in the months to come.”… > He was a great communicator. He took charge of the message, and it was one of hope and optimism. He was calm and composed. Mayor Giuliani wrote that he “had to communicate with the public, to do whatever I could to calm people down and communicate with them.” [https://www.jba.af.mil/News/Commentaries/Display/Article/338041/mayor-shows-exemplary-leadership-during-911/](https://www.jba.af.mil/News/Commentaries/Display/Article/338041/mayor-shows-exemplary-leadership-during-911/) There are naysayers over at the Wikipedia entry on the subject. > [@](#): > > Giuliani claimed on August 9, 2007, that “I was at Ground Zero as often, if not more, than most workers… I was there working with them. I was exposed to exactly the same things they were exposed to. So in that sense, I’m one of them.” This angered NY Fire and Police personnel 911 workers.[[19]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudy_Giuliani_during_the_September_11_attacks#cite_note-19)[[20]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudy_Giuliani_during_the_September_11_attacks#cite_note-20)[[21]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudy_Giuliani_during_the_September_11_attacks#cite_note-21) A _[New York Times](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_York_Times)_ study a week later found that he spent a total of 29 hours over three months at the site; his appointment logs were unavailable for the six days immediately following the attacks. This contrasted with recovery workers at the site who spent this much time at the site in two to three days. The recovery workers often spent hundreds of hours working 8- to 12-hour shifts. [Rudy Giuliani during the September 11 attacks - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudy_Giuliani_during_the_September_11_attacks#:~:text=After%20the%20attacks%2C%20Giuliani%20coordinated,for%20restoration%20of%20destroyed%20infrastructure). ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2026, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudy-giuliani-in-critical-condition-in-florida-hospital-now-in-the-bbq-pit/1029768/71 "2026-05-04T23:34:02Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Successfully pursued them from whom? If the person who owed the money is dead, who do you go after next? From the estate. The estate is still an active entity until it is settled in full. Some jurisdictions require the executor of the estate to put a notice in a newspaper or some such place informing any potential creditors that they have a certain amount of time to make a claim on the estate. Credit card debt must be paid out of the estate funds. Any outstanding loans must be paid. The executor handles this. I suppose if there is not enough money when all assets of the estate are liquidated, then the creditors have to fight it out. The executor is then responsible for fair and equitable distribution. ONLY after all debts are paid, then if there are people who stand to inherit, they get their share. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2026, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudy-giuliani-in-critical-condition-in-florida-hospital-now-in-the-bbq-pit/1029768/72 "2026-05-05T00:31:41Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > … Any outstanding loans must be paid. … A minor ~~quibble~~ clarification: thanks to the [Garn-St. Germain Depository Institutions Act of 1982](https://taxsharkinc.com/can-i-assume-the-mortgage-on-an-inherited-property/), a lender cannot enforce a due-on-sale clause if the property in question is inherited by a relative (it’s a tad more nuanced, but that’s the gist). It’s true that the loan must be repaid, but settling the estate does not depend on it —\* the heir assumes responsibility for the payments, and the loan continues under his/her name. \* Em dash alert: I must be a bot! ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2026, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudy-giuliani-in-critical-condition-in-florida-hospital-now-in-the-bbq-pit/1029768/73 "2026-05-05T00:56:17Z")
Meh. So he went to the site. Anyone else would have. So he portrayed optimism. Big deal, it’s what anyone would have done. What most people wouldn’t have done would be patting themselves on the back for 25 years since then. He’s like the kid who won a football game for his high school 25 years ago and won’t stop talking about it. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2026, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudy-giuliani-in-critical-condition-in-florida-hospital-now-in-the-bbq-pit/1029768/74 "2026-05-05T03:16:25Z")
His ear healed up nicely. Now he needs to do something about that rope burn. ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanubv.2/32/3260_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUBv.2)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2026, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudy-giuliani-in-critical-condition-in-florida-hospital-now-in-the-bbq-pit/1029768/75 "2026-05-05T03:43:32Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > On the other hand, he instantly pissed away whatever credit he deserves for that, when he started denying that 9/11 ever happened. Bwhuuuh? ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2026, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudy-giuliani-in-critical-condition-in-florida-hospital-now-in-the-bbq-pit/1029768/76 "2026-05-05T04:20:27Z")
At a guess, @chronos is referring to this incident: [https://www.npr.org/2016/08/16/490200895/rudy-giuliani-claims-no-terror-attacks-in-u-s-pre-obama](https://www.npr.org/2016/08/16/490200895/rudy-giuliani-claims-no-terror-attacks-in-u-s-pre-obama) > Rudolph Giuliani appeared to forget the terrorist attack on Sept. 11, 2001, while warming up a crowd for Donald Trump’s foreign policy speech on Monday. > > … > > “By the way,” Giuliani said, “under those eight years, before Obama came along, we didn’t have any successful radical Islamic terrorist attack in the United States. They all started when Clinton and Obama got into office.” ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2026, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudy-giuliani-in-critical-condition-in-florida-hospital-now-in-the-bbq-pit/1029768/77 "2026-05-05T04:49:52Z")
Ok, a person dies and creditors can go after their estate. PSA: Sometimes creditors try to go beyond that and ask relatives if they can, “Help out” after the deceased’s death. Credit card creditors for example. Employed by Bank of America for example. Cite: [https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/how-theresa-hatt-caused-the-financial-crisis-2](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/how-theresa-hatt-caused-the-financial-crisis-2) > > Paul Kelleher: Yes, I’m calling to inform you that my mom died on the 24th of January. > > Bank of America Estates representative: I’m sorry. Oh, it looks like she never even missed a payment. That’s too bad. Well, how are you planning to take care of her balance? > > PK: I’m not going to. She has no estate to speak of, but you should feel free to just go through the standard probate procedure. I’m certainly not legally obligated to pay for her. > > BOA: You mean you’re not going to help her out? > > PK: I wouldn’t be helping her out — she’s dead. I’d be helping you out. > > BOA: Oh, that’s really not the way to look at it. I know that if it were my mother, I’d pay it. That’s why we’re in the banking crisis we’re in: banks having to write off defaulted loans. > “I lost it there,” Kelleher, a mild-mannered 30-year-old who lives in Brookline, Mass., where he works remotely for a Washington DC-based non-profit, told TPMMuckraker. When pressed, he said, the estates rep backed off that last claim, but only a little, continuing to suggest that cases like his mothers had played a role in the financial crisis. > The rep’s apparent intention, as Kelleher described it, was to mislead him into believing that he was obligated — at first legally, then, failing that, morally — to cover his mother’s debt (which, in any case, was not large: she had had a $1000 limit on her card). Of course, Kelleher was sophisticated enough to know that’s not true. But how many other less savvy callers in similar situations, he wondered, might respond to the rep’s breezy “how are you planning to take care of her balance?,” with a confused “I guess I’ll mail in a check”? > And what bothered Kelleher as much as the estate rep’s insensitivity, not to mention her apparent effort to deceive, was the impression he got that she wasn’t winging it. > “It seemed rote,” Kelleher said. “It was too naturally delivered to have been a misstatement.” ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2026, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudy-giuliani-in-critical-condition-in-florida-hospital-now-in-the-bbq-pit/1029768/78 "2026-05-05T05:30:29Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > God DAMMIT! The Grim Reaper wanted to get drunk but not THAT drunk. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2026, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudy-giuliani-in-critical-condition-in-florida-hospital-now-in-the-bbq-pit/1029768/79 "2026-05-05T06:08:07Z")
My experience with American Express was exactly the opposite. I was the sole heir and executor when my mother died, and one of my tasks was sorting out her routine bills, paying things off as needed, stopping automatic payments, etc. When I called Amex to say, “my mother died, please cancel her card, and how can I pay the outstanding balance on her bill?” they were awesome. Basically: “So sorry about your loss. We just cancelled her card, and wrote off her outstanding payment, so no worries there.” It wasn’t a lot of money, all things considered - I forget how much (this happened in 20213) - maybe, I dunno, $200 or so? But I really, really, REALLY appreciated it. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2026, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudy-giuliani-in-critical-condition-in-florida-hospital-now-in-the-bbq-pit/1029768/80 "2026-05-05T07:48:38Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Ok, a person dies and creditors can go after their estate. But it’s not _their_ estate any more, is it? They don’t exist, and people who don’t exist can’t have assets. The estate belongs to someone else who is NOT the person who died, and this someone else is the one who has to pay the debts. The person who died died without _them_ paying back _their_ debts. THEY got away scot free. As far as the debtors are concerned, there’s no difference between the dead person and their estate - but it’s all the difference in the world to the actual dead person. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudy-giuliani-in-critical-condition-in-florida-hospital-now-in-the-bbq-pit/1029768.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudy-giuliani-in-critical-condition-in-florida-hospital-now-in-the-bbq-pit/1029768.md?page=5)