# Rudy Giuliani in critical condition in Florida hospital \[Now in the BBQ Pit\]

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [May 4, 2026, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudy-giuliani-in-critical-condition-in-florida-hospital-now-in-the-bbq-pit/1029768 "2026-05-04T00:21:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2026, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudy-giuliani-in-critical-condition-in-florida-hospital-now-in-the-bbq-pit/1029768/102 "2026-05-05T20:05:58Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Critical is a natural 20, of course.

> [@Frodo](#):
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> Or a natural 1, critical fails are critical too…

Do you need to make another roll to confirm?

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2026, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudy-giuliani-in-critical-condition-in-florida-hospital-now-in-the-bbq-pit/1029768/103 "2026-05-05T20:27:52Z")

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> [@scudsucker](#):
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> I hate to ask, as my stomach turns… is that a hickey on Trump’s neck? Just behind and below his ear? I mean, I am all for adult fun, but is Melania?

It’s a rope burn. He had a moment of self-awareness, but they found him in time.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2026, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudy-giuliani-in-critical-condition-in-florida-hospital-now-in-the-bbq-pit/1029768/104 "2026-05-05T22:00:56Z")

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> [@scudsucker](#):
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> > [@Atamasama](#):
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> > who has a more romantic neck than Trump?
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> I hate to ask, as my stomach turns… is that a hickey on Trump’s neck? Just behind and below his ear? I mean, I am all for adult fun, but is Melania?

I don’t know- has Lindsay Graham spent any time alone with him lately?

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2026, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudy-giuliani-in-critical-condition-in-florida-hospital-now-in-the-bbq-pit/1029768/105 "2026-05-05T22:02:04Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> I don’t know- has Lindsay Graham spent any time alone with him lately?

That would be an ass hickey.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2026, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudy-giuliani-in-critical-condition-in-florida-hospital-now-in-the-bbq-pit/1029768/106 "2026-05-06T16:32:02Z")

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Are there any stats as to what percentage of debts are paid by any estate holdings after a person dies, as opposed to debts never paid out because the money just isn’t there? If I owe money when I die, and I don’t leave an estate outside of personal effects that are exempt, how is the debt paid (or is it)?

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2026, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudy-giuliani-in-critical-condition-in-florida-hospital-now-in-the-bbq-pit/1029768/107 "2026-05-06T17:51:48Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> If I owe money when I die, and I don’t leave an estate outside of personal effects that are exempt, how is the debt paid (or is it)?

It isn’t.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2026, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudy-giuliani-in-critical-condition-in-florida-hospital-now-in-the-bbq-pit/1029768/108 "2026-05-06T18:07:23Z")

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> It isn’t.

Unless you live in a state that can force your children to pay your debts for medical and/or long-term care expenses. Check out Filial Responsibility laws, now brought to you in 29 states.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2026, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudy-giuliani-in-critical-condition-in-florida-hospital-now-in-the-bbq-pit/1029768/109 "2026-05-06T20:44:48Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> Filial Responsibility law

Another reason not to have children!

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**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2026, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudy-giuliani-in-critical-condition-in-florida-hospital-now-in-the-bbq-pit/1029768/110 "2026-05-06T20:55:48Z")

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It’s an even better reason to not have parents!

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2026, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudy-giuliani-in-critical-condition-in-florida-hospital-now-in-the-bbq-pit/1029768/111 "2026-05-06T21:07:09Z")

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If any of youse are Wikipedia editors, the lead info in the filial responsibility article is out of date and gives 2019 information.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2026, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudy-giuliani-in-critical-condition-in-florida-hospital-now-in-the-bbq-pit/1029768/112 "2026-05-06T21:09:55Z")

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Everyone is a Wikipedia editor!

Unless you’ve been banned, in which case, stay the fuck away!!!

(Spoken by a recently-retired Wikipedia administrator.)

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2026, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudy-giuliani-in-critical-condition-in-florida-hospital-now-in-the-bbq-pit/1029768/113 "2026-05-06T21:10:55Z")

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If any of youse are active, participating Wikipedia editors…

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2026, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudy-giuliani-in-critical-condition-in-florida-hospital-now-in-the-bbq-pit/1029768/114 "2026-05-06T21:14:55Z")

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> [@susan](#):
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> the lead info in the filial responsibility article is out of date and gives 2019 information.

I’m glad to learn most of these laws are not enforced. So far as I’m concerned, they shouldn’t even be on the books.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2026, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudy-giuliani-in-critical-condition-in-florida-hospital-now-in-the-bbq-pit/1029768/115 "2026-05-07T12:37:28Z")

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For sure they should not.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2026, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudy-giuliani-in-critical-condition-in-florida-hospital-now-in-the-bbq-pit/1029768/116 "2026-05-07T17:42:12Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Damn. Woke up not seeing the headline I was hoping for.

This is gonna turn into just like the “Trump is dying” Pit thread is…watch.

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2026, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudy-giuliani-in-critical-condition-in-florida-hospital-now-in-the-bbq-pit/1029768/117 "2026-05-07T22:57:11Z")

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Aw man, now I’m never going to be able to eat at Joe’s KC BBQ again… ☹

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2026, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudy-giuliani-in-critical-condition-in-florida-hospital-now-in-the-bbq-pit/1029768/118 "2026-05-07T23:31:36Z")

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It seems to me that, after a person dies, whatever they owned instantly becomes the property of the heirs. The problem of probate isn’t that the property isn’t owned; it’s that the courts don’t know who owns it.

It’s like, if I find a dropped wallet lying on the sidewalk, someone owns it. I just don’t know who that is, right away.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2026, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudy-giuliani-in-critical-condition-in-florida-hospital-now-in-the-bbq-pit/1029768/119 "2026-05-08T00:47:22Z")

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If you want to look at it that way, which makes some sense but IMO isn’t really technically legally valid, then you need a little more nuanced treatment. Which gets to this:

> The property is owned by the creditors, the tax authorities, and the heirs , in that order The problem of probate isn’t that the property isn’t owned; it’s that the courts don’t know who owns it. Yet.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2026, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudy-giuliani-in-critical-condition-in-florida-hospital-now-in-the-bbq-pit/1029768/120 "2026-05-08T00:59:35Z")

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Can’t we spin this talk of estates to its own thread? I want more Rudi death watch.

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