# Rudy's Expensive (to the NYC taxpayers) Booty Calls

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudys-expensive-to-the-nyc-taxpayers-booty-calls/428131>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 29, 2007, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudys-expensive-to-the-nyc-taxpayers-booty-calls/428131 "2007-11-29T02:33:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2007, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudys-expensive-to-the-nyc-taxpayers-booty-calls/428131/61 "2007-12-04T07:58:33Z")

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Not to mention his depraved violation of that innocent lamb, Paula Jones, the Heidi of the Ozarks! Clutch my pearls and faint dead away!

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**Author:** ![Hamadryad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6de8d8/32.png) [@Hamadryad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamadryad)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2007, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudys-expensive-to-the-nyc-taxpayers-booty-calls/428131/62 "2007-12-04T12:52:12Z")

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As a note, the current Mayor’s SO [doesn’t feel the need for 24/7 security](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2007/12/01/2007-12-01_mayor_bloombergs_girlfriend_diana_taylor-1.html) in “the safest city in the world.”

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2007, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudys-expensive-to-the-nyc-taxpayers-booty-calls/428131/63 "2007-12-04T19:29:05Z")

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[QUOTE=F. U. Shakespeare]  
For the record:

I remember the 1994 allegations about Clinton’s using the Arkansas State Police to get him girls and cover it up. I don’t know enough to assert how certain the evidence was, but I remember not talking to my oldest and closest friend (a life long Republican) for a year because we disagreed over how big a deal this was.

Unsolicited, but still on record: I will probably be voting for RG for president.

F. U. Shakespeare presumably now a ‘usual suspect’  
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I can’t tell - are you saying this _is_ different, or it is not?

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Billdo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/billdo/32/315_2.png) [@Billdo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Billdo)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2007, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudys-expensive-to-the-nyc-taxpayers-booty-calls/428131/64 "2007-12-04T20:39:29Z")

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[QUOTE=Hamadryad]  
As a note, the current Mayor’s SO [doesn’t feel the need for 24/7 security](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2007/12/01/2007-12-01_mayor_bloombergs_girlfriend_diana_taylor-1.html) in “the safest city in the world.”  
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Well, the current mayor is not a raging egomaniacal asshole who feels the need to swing his dick around to show the world how important he is.

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**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2007, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudys-expensive-to-the-nyc-taxpayers-booty-calls/428131/65 "2007-12-04T23:23:30Z")

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[QUOTE=Shodan]  
I can’t tell - are you saying this _is_ different, or it is not?

Regards,  
Shodan  
[/QUOTE]  
I don’t claim to be an expert in the various allegations related to Clinton’s philandering. And I’m even less familiar with the details of Giuliani’s.

But it looks to me like both men fooled around and used government employees to help with their indiscretions.

While I’d rather they hadn’t, I don’t attach as much significance to it as my Republican friends did when Clinton was in the spotlight, and I look forward to seeing if they still find such actions as objectionable as they did in 1993.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2007, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudys-expensive-to-the-nyc-taxpayers-booty-calls/428131/66 "2007-12-04T23:33:02Z")

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[QUOTE=F. U. Shakespeare]  
I don’t claim to be an expert in the various allegations related to Clinton’s philandering. And I’m even less familiar with the details of Giuliani’s.

But it looks to me like both men fooled around and used government employees to help with their indiscretions.

While I’d rather they hadn’t, I don’t attach as much significance to it as my Republican friends did when Clinton was in the spotlight, and I look forward to seeing if they still find such actions as objectionable as they did in 1993.  
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That’s fair enough. FWIW, I don’t think anyone is accusing Giuliani of using his security detail as a dating service, as Clinton is accused of,

If Giuliani really did any of this - **RTFirefly** said it, therefore it has to be assumed to be false until proven otherwise. 😃

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2007, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudys-expensive-to-the-nyc-taxpayers-booty-calls/428131/67 "2007-12-05T13:03:33Z")

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Wait, I’m sorry. I thought we _weren’t_ supposed to care about politicians having wild sex while in office unless it involved gays, underage girls, or farm animals. But now I’m being sent different signals.

Or, as I must again quote [IOZ:](http://whoisioz.blogspot.com/2007/11/you-know.html)

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> **You know…**
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> …for people who were so blithely unconcerned with the President of the United States getting polished off in, you know, the White House, they’re awfully concerned that Candidate-for-Life Benito Giuliani nailed some chick “on the taxpayer’s dime.” Dude fucking transformed New York City into a ersatz engine of Real-Estate speculation and candified psuedo-culture, and you’re pissed that he was getting his bone on while he did? Jesus, who’s the fucking nihilists here?

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**Author:** ![Hamadryad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6de8d8/32.png) [@Hamadryad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamadryad)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2007, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudys-expensive-to-the-nyc-taxpayers-booty-calls/428131/68 "2007-12-05T14:21:03Z")

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[QUOTE=marshmallow]  
Wait, I’m sorry. I thought we _weren’t_ supposed to care about politicians having wild sex while in office unless it involved gays, underage girls, or farm animals. But now I’m being sent different signals.

Or, as I must again quote [IOZ:](http://whoisioz.blogspot.com/2007/11/you-know.html)  
[/QUOTE]  
Let’s see. I didn’t care about Clinton getting the blowjob, I cared about him lying under oath. I don’t think it should have been an impeachment issue, though.

I don’t think people care so much about Rudy having an affair as they do that a) he had cops WALKING HER DOG for her, for fuck’s sake b) She seemed to use poice officers as a personal taxi service for her and her friends c) RUDY CLAIMS TO BE A FISCAL CONSERVATIVE. d) WHO CHEATED ON HIS WIFE AND IS RUNNING ON ‘FAMILY VALUES’.

He’s the BASF candidate. “We don’t make the scandals. We make the scandals STUPIDER.”

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2007, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudys-expensive-to-the-nyc-taxpayers-booty-calls/428131/69 "2007-12-05T14:25:59Z")

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[QUOTE=Hamadryad]  
He’s the BASF candidate. “We don’t make the scandals. We make the scandals STUPIDER.”  
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Chemistry, it’s what’s for dinner. 😃

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2007, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudys-expensive-to-the-nyc-taxpayers-booty-calls/428131/70 "2007-12-05T17:06:28Z")

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Hiya, folks. You know, this is sort of no surprise to us New Yorkers, right? We kept telling y’all Rudy was going to have scandals coming out of his ass.

I suspect there’s another juicy one or two coming. Heck, they havn’t even had to pull out the time he served his wife with divorce papers as she was being treated for cancer.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2007, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudys-expensive-to-the-nyc-taxpayers-booty-calls/428131/71 "2007-12-05T17:13:03Z")

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That was Newt, yes? Did The Rudy do it too?

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2007, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudys-expensive-to-the-nyc-taxpayers-booty-calls/428131/72 "2007-12-05T20:24:01Z")

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[QUOTE=Hamadryad]  
Let’s see. I didn’t care about Clinton getting the blowjob, I cared about him lying under oath. I don’t think it should have been an impeachment issue, though.  
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It was a national embarrassment. The impeachment, that is.

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> I don’t think people care so much about Rudy having an affair as they do that a) he had cops WALKING HER DOG for her, for fuck’s sake b) She seemed to use poice officers as a personal taxi service for her and her friends c) RUDY CLAIMS TO BE A FISCAL CONSERVATIVE. d) WHO CHEATED ON HIS WIFE AND IS RUNNING ON ‘FAMILY VALUES’.

Is he running on “family values”? I haven’t kept up with the details of his candidacy (more interested in the Dems this time around), but I don’t recall him playing that card yet. I could easily have missed it. Seems like he’s been pretty upfront about not having the standard GOP boilerplate platform.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2007, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudys-expensive-to-the-nyc-taxpayers-booty-calls/428131/73 "2007-12-05T20:47:01Z")

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[QUOTE=E-Sabbath]  
Hiya, folks. You know, this is sort of no surprise to us New Yorkers, right? We kept telling y’all Rudy was going to have scandals coming out of his ass.

I suspect there’s another juicy one or two coming. Heck, they havn’t even had to pull out the time he served his wife with divorce papers as she was being treated for cancer.  
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The story of Rudy’s buddy and business associate, [Alan Placa](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Placa), hasn’t hit the major media yet. If the search engine’s working properly, this is the first time his name’s been mentioned on the Dope.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2007, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudys-expensive-to-the-nyc-taxpayers-booty-calls/428131/74 "2007-12-06T01:16:58Z")

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Sorry, that _was_ Newt. Rudy kicked his first wife out for being a second cousin. Don’t ask.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2007, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudys-expensive-to-the-nyc-taxpayers-booty-calls/428131/75 "2007-12-06T01:54:26Z")

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The point of bringing up Rudy’s adulteries (aside from the fact that they seem to have cost NYC a pretty penny) is to remind the ‘family values’ subset of Republican voters that this guy has no problem with all the things they say are important that they stand against, like abortion, adultery, and homosexuality.

I think it’s quite fair to make a test of _their_ sincerity a subtext of this election.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2007, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudys-expensive-to-the-nyc-taxpayers-booty-calls/428131/76 "2007-12-06T02:31:32Z")

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[QUOTE=RTFirefly]  
The point of bringing up Rudy’s adulteries (aside from the fact that they seem to have cost NYC a pretty penny) is to remind the ‘family values’ subset of Republican voters that this guy has no problem with all the things they say are important that they stand against, like abortion, adultery, and homosexuality.

I think it’s quite fair to make a test of _their_ sincerity a subtext of this election.  
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Well, yeah I know that. I didn’t just fall off the turnip truck, **RTF**. 🙂

I was just wondering if Rudy was trying to run on family values. I think he’s got a pretty good stump speech, and is pretty open about that fact that he isn’t a Bible thumping, gay bashing, abortion outlawing GOP guy. That’s kind of refreshing.

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**Author:** ![aliquot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@aliquot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aliquot)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2007, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudys-expensive-to-the-nyc-taxpayers-booty-calls/428131/77 "2007-12-06T04:06:09Z")

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[QUOTE=John Mace]  
[Rudi] is pretty open about that fact that he isn’t a Bible thumping, gay bashing, abortion outlawing GOP guy. That’s kind of refreshing.  
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Sure, but would it kill the Republicans to offer up a candidate who is a happy medium? It seems that the candidates are either preachers or they’re on their Nth marriage, with many admitted affairs.

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**Author:** ![Billdo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/billdo/32/315_2.png) [@Billdo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Billdo)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2007, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudys-expensive-to-the-nyc-taxpayers-booty-calls/428131/78 "2007-12-06T05:03:51Z")

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[QUOTE=aliquot]  
Sure, but would it kill the Republicans to offer up a candidate who is a happy medium? It seems that the candidates are either preachers or they’re on their Nth marriage, with many admitted affairs.  
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I think his name is Romney.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2007, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudys-expensive-to-the-nyc-taxpayers-booty-calls/428131/79 "2007-12-06T05:27:45Z")

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Yep, Romney. The candidate carved from frozen mayonaisse. Least offensive wins.

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**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2007, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rudys-expensive-to-the-nyc-taxpayers-booty-calls/428131/80 "2007-12-06T12:08:44Z")

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[QUOTE=Billdo]  
I think his name is Romney.  
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IMO, Romney made the best one-liner in the election so far, when he Dole-ishly observed that the Mormon is the only (Republican) candidate with one wife.

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