# Rugby World Cup 2015

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [August 17, 2015, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rugby-world-cup-2015/728123 "2015-08-17T22:59:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Hrududu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Hrududu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hrududu)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rugby-world-cup-2015/728123/121 "2015-10-13T19:47:55Z")

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With O’Mahoney and O’Connell gone, and questions still over Sexton I’m hoping Sean O’Brien doesn’t get a lengthy ban. No idea why its taking so long to hear the news there.

I went to work on Monday feeling like I’d played in the France match, I was that wrecked.

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**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rugby-world-cup-2015/728123/122 "2015-10-13T20:04:55Z")

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[Irish rugby tweeting](https://twitter.com/RTErugby?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor)he’s got a one week suspension. With O’Connell out through injury who will be your locks against Argentina?

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**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rugby-world-cup-2015/728123/123 "2015-10-14T05:19:51Z")

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> [@penultima\_thule](#):
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> But The All Blacks going down to Les Bleus in Cardiff, again, would have to come close.

I think we’re half-resigned to it anyway 😉

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**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rugby-world-cup-2015/728123/124 "2015-10-14T05:36:06Z")

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> [@penultima\_thule](#):
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> But The All Blacks going down to Les Bleus in Cardiff, again, would have to come close.  
> Cue the theme from “Jaws”

Oi!!!

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**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2015, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rugby-world-cup-2015/728123/125 "2015-10-14T09:50:53Z")

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Gets even more emphatic

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> From RTE Rugby  
> O’Brien has been in his hearing for 366 minutes, England played 320 minutes.

Ouch! 😃

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**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2015, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rugby-world-cup-2015/728123/126 "2015-10-15T21:18:50Z")

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My thoughts on the quarter finals:

**South Africa v Wales** - Despite South Africa looking less than stellar, I just can’t see a battered Wales getting through this one.  
**New Zealand v France** - France have looked plodding all the way through the group stages, but I can’t shake the memories of 1999 and 2007. New Zealand should win unless the French find some magic somewhere.  
**Ireland v Argentina** - Argentina are a good side, and will run Ireland close, but I think the way the Irish played against France shows that they’re going to be just a little too strong in the end.  
**Australia v Scotland** - This is the best Scotland side since the time of the Hastings brothers, but it still won’t be enough to get best an Australian team that looked confident and powerful all through the toughest pool in the competition.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2015, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rugby-world-cup-2015/728123/127 "2015-10-15T23:16:30Z")

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…here is an article that is summing up the mood of the nation regarding the upcoming game against the French:

> **[Manhire: Why France will beat us](https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby-world-cup-2015-why-france-will-definitely-beat-the-all-blacks/JFL52MCXVF4EDQZT22RWHGMZPQ/?c_id=4&objectid=11529821)**
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> COMMENT: Are we battle-hardened going in to the third part of the trilogy, again in Cardiff, another eight years and 11 days on? Maybe, maybe not.

We are all mentally preparing for a loss. I suspect that if we do beat the French, NZ supporters may become slightly insufferable, and I apologise in advance if we do. But no-one here is taking the next game lightly.

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**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rugby-world-cup-2015/728123/128 "2015-10-16T01:37:35Z")

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In a magnificently Gallic move the French players are reported to have [just dumped their coach](http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/oct/16/france-mutiny-phillipe-saint-andre-rugby-world-cup)on the eve of the quarter final.

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**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rugby-world-cup-2015/728123/129 "2015-10-16T05:55:11Z")

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> [@lisiate](#):
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> In a magnificently Gallic move the French players are reported to have [just dumped their coach](http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/oct/16/france-mutiny-phillipe-saint-andre-rugby-world-cup)on the eve of the quarter final.

pour encourager les autres ?

no telling what’s going on there, well OK , it is France being French, not thatthere is anything wrong with that.

FWIW Lisiate you got group B,C and D right in your OP, Other than a Samoa/japan switch and It/Rom  
Group A , well, personally I was blinded by unfounded patriotism ( or is that a redundant phrase) so other than England doing what we do best , spot on.

> [@lisiate](#):
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> South Africa v Wales - Despite South Africa looking less than stellar, I just can’t see a battered Wales getting through this one.

No arguments there, Wales will give it their all, hope it is not all over by 1/2 time though

> [@lisiate](#):
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> New Zealand v France - France have looked plodding all the way through the group stages, but I can’t shake the memories of 1999 and 2007. New Zealand should win unless the French find some magic somewhere.

maybe NZ can substitute the Haka for perfecting the Heimlich maneuver on each other , just in case

> [@lisiate](#):
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> Ireland v Argentina - Argentina are a good side, and will run Ireland close, but I think the way the Irish played against France shows that they’re going to be just a little too strong in the end.

They are positive and happy, Ireland is probably wondering ’ how in the hell are we going to do this with half the team out" Could be a bad tempered scrappy game. Rooting for the pumas , because well , rooting 😉

> [@lisiate](#):
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> Australia v Scotland - This is the best Scotland side since the time of the Hastings brothers, but it still won’t be enough to get best an Australian team that looked confident and powerful all through the toughest pool in the competition.

No debates there, but could they both lose and let Ireland or Wales through ?

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**Author:** ![Ken001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/43a26b/32.png) [@Ken001](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ken001)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rugby-world-cup-2015/728123/130 "2015-10-16T07:01:09Z")

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A wounded Springbok is a dangerous animal - All Black lore. I can’t see Wales much as we all love them, surviving South Africa.

And again, the mercurial French are magnificent on their day. They almost won the last World Cup.

New Zealand is nervous because we know the All Blacks have not been tested yet. Statistically they can win over Les Blues but match by match? I’m nervous.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2015, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rugby-world-cup-2015/728123/131 "2015-10-17T20:36:58Z")

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…NZ 62 France 13 ten minutes to go.

Still not confident.

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2015, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rugby-world-cup-2015/728123/132 "2015-10-17T20:47:37Z")

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New Zealand seem to be pretty good at this whole rugby thing

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Pearse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/richard_pearse/32/13144_2.png) [@Richard\_Pearse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Pearse)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2015, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rugby-world-cup-2015/728123/133 "2015-10-17T20:49:25Z")

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Wow. I’d hoped to get up to watch it but only managed to catch the last minute. Well done Kiwis!

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**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2015, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rugby-world-cup-2015/728123/134 "2015-10-17T20:52:36Z")

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They may even have learnt a bit of strategy in not going balls-out and peaking at the pool stages, then getting complacent and tripping over their dicks in the knock-out stages. Hats off to Steve Hansen; I don’t think we’ve seen an All Blacks this, well, strategic before.

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Pearse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/richard_pearse/32/13144_2.png) [@Richard\_Pearse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Pearse)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2015, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rugby-world-cup-2015/728123/135 "2015-10-17T21:00:08Z")

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Just seen some highlights. Watching forwards running around and passing like wingers? Priceless.

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**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2015, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rugby-world-cup-2015/728123/136 "2015-10-17T21:07:06Z")

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Well that’s that then .

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2015, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rugby-world-cup-2015/728123/137 "2015-10-17T21:11:20Z")

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> [@Richard\_Pearse](#):
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> Just seen some highlights. Watching forwards running around and passing like wingers? Priceless.

Great handling by a big lunk of a prop? It ain’t no thing.

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Pearse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/richard_pearse/32/13144_2.png) [@Richard\_Pearse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Pearse)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2015, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rugby-world-cup-2015/728123/138 "2015-10-17T21:25:38Z")

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A pity about Wales. I have a soft spot for our fellow sheep shaggers.

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**Author:** ![Your\_Great\_Darsh\_Face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ac8455/32.png) [@Your\_Great\_Darsh\_Face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Your_Great_Darsh_Face)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2015, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rugby-world-cup-2015/728123/139 "2015-10-18T07:57:54Z")

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Meh. Historically, all the Welsh have been good for at the WC is now and then pissing on the English bonfire. Their overall record against South Africa is terrible and while they fought hard for this, I’m not overly surprised to see them go out.

Meanwhile if Scotland beat Australia I’ll be astonished. Ireland should have just enough left to beat Argentina but that will be all she wrote for the Northern hemisphere this time round.

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**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2015, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rugby-world-cup-2015/728123/140 "2015-10-18T13:14:51Z")

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20-10 to the Pumas at 1/2 time

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