There’s a difference between a colloquialism, and a mistake. “You ain’t nothing but a hound dog” is fine. “Between you and I” should be taken out and shot.
That song ruins the album. And the cover you all seem to hate relates perfectly to “21st Century Schizoid Man” (the best song on the album). In my opinion.
Ever so slightly? The lazy confusion between subjective and objective case (I and me, he and him, she and her) is another sign of the collapse of civilization!
I do my part… by singing along and loudly correcting the singer:
“It’ll just be You and ME.… objective case, dickweed!”
“Now you’re underneath the stairs
And you’re giving back some glares
To the people who you met
And it’s your first cigarette”
I’d been listening to this for literally decades thinking this was a really lame verse, and then I was amused to hear that Neil Young was once recorded saying:
“At first I wrote 126 verses to it. Now, you can imagine that I had a lot of trouble figuring out what four verses to use… I was underneath the stairs… Anyway, this verse that I wrote… It was the worst verse of the 126 that I wrote. So, I decided to put it in the song, to just to give everybody a frame of reference as to, you know, what can happen. What I’m trying to say here, by stopping in the middle of the song, and explaining this to you, is that… I think it’s one of the lamest verses I ever wrote. And it takes a lotta nerve for me to get up here and sing it in front of you people. But, if when I’m finished singing, you sing the chorus ‘Sugar Mountain’ super loud, I’ll just forget about it right away and we can continue.”
Wouldn’t it be subjective case there, technically, with the verb to be in the form “will be” acting as a copula? I mean, it is technically “it is I” rather than “it is me.”
I’ve always thought It was the subject, be the verb and what will be as the object.
If I’m describing my plans after work and say “It’ll just be a glass of beer and a good book”… subject, verb, object.
And no, I would never say “It is I!” unless I were making an entrance in a castle. Preferably with a sword (“It is I, the fifth musketeer, here to rescue the queen!”)
If 'Tis I were* indeed correct, I would then structure my whole conversation differently so as to avoid the pretentiousness of it. I already do that with other sentences where “it’s correct, but I sound full of myself”.
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*check out the conditional tense, hey, see me being all proper? Oh, yeah…
Ah, yes, but the traditional grammar rule is that “be” acts as a linking verb/copula, and both sides of the verb “to be” are supposed to be in the nominative/subjective case. In “It is I” “I” is not an object. “I” is not being acted upon: it is an equivalence.
That said, yes, it sounds stuffy and stupid, but you do sometimes hear it, like when people say “this is she” instead of “this is her” on the phone (that one goes both ways, but doesn’t jar the ear quite as much as “it is I.”)
ETA: Actually, I’m not sure I’m understanding the sentence correctly, so never mind my analysis. For the second half, though I would just say “use the colloquial construction.” Don’t tie yourself up in knots rewriting because some old fart liked Latin too much and tried to port the rules to English.
I had always assumed they knew what a hippy-happy, feel-good song they were performing (the Turtles didn’t actually write it), and so I’ve always assumed that’s exactly what they were going for - a love-song parody.