# Ruled out dating a guy who gives his dog beer? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [August 1, 2012, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ruled-out-dating-a-guy-who-gives-his-dog-beer/630070 "2012-08-01T16:38:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disgruntled_Penguin)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ruled-out-dating-a-guy-who-gives-his-dog-beer/630070/61 "2012-08-02T05:04:43Z")
> [@SeaDragonTattoo](#): > > Well… it’s not like Bowser Beer has any alcohol in it. Or carbonation, for that matter. I’m assuming they like the taste of beer not the buzz or else the product wouldn’t sell. ---
**Author:** ![azraiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@azraiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/azraiel)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ruled-out-dating-a-guy-who-gives-his-dog-beer/630070/62 "2012-08-02T08:36:06Z")
> [@Poster](#): > > “Cultivated hops used for brewing beer have been associated with potentially life-threatening signs in dogs who have ingested them. Both fresh and spent (cooked) hops have been implicated in poisoning dogs. Affected dogs develop an uncontrollably high body temperature… which results in damage to and failure of multiple organ systems.” Yep. Hops have been. Not hop extract. Not hoppy beer. We’re talking the literal green bud which is present in exactly zero beers ever produced. For fuck’s sake. ---
**Author:** ![azraiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@azraiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/azraiel)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ruled-out-dating-a-guy-who-gives-his-dog-beer/630070/63 "2012-08-02T08:48:48Z")
> [@Michael63129](#): > > Alcohol can cause a [whole lot](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholic_liver_disease) of [other problems](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liver_cancer) when consumed chronically. _Chronically_. Christ, for a board dedicated to fighting ignorance, the ignorance about alcohol is frightening. Do you know what triggered the horticultural revolution? Beer. Do you know what the drove the advent of currency? Beer. Do you know what the majority of humanity has consumed for liquid since 10,000 BCE? Beer. Beer is not–as claimed above–full of empty calories. Beer is actually an incredibly nutritious food. Canines do well will grains and grain extracts complementing their diets, and a beer or two a day (5% or below, less depending upon size) is a perfectly healthy adjunct to regular diet. But hey, OP. Your ignorance obviously colors your impressions. I agree that you should avoid the dude. He deserves the boon. ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ruled-out-dating-a-guy-who-gives-his-dog-beer/630070/64 "2012-08-02T12:40:16Z")
> [@azraiel](#): > > _Chronically_. Christ, for a board dedicated to fighting ignorance, the ignorance about alcohol is frightening. > > Do you know what triggered the horticultural revolution? Beer. Do you know what the drove the advent of currency? Beer. Do you know what the majority of humanity has consumed for liquid since 10,000 BCE? Beer. > > Beer is not–as claimed above–full of empty calories. Beer is actually an incredibly nutritious food. Canines do well will grains and grain extracts complementing their diets, and a beer or two a day (5% or below, less depending upon size) is a perfectly healthy adjunct to regular diet. > > But hey, OP. Your ignorance obviously colors your impressions. I agree that you should avoid the dude. He deserves the boon. Beer is the reason for civilization, but because it made water safe to drink during the brewing process, not because it’s some incredibly nutritious food that’s good for your health. It was less bad for health than unsanitary water. ---
**Author:** ![HoneyBadgerDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honeybadgerdc/32/1033_2.png) [@HoneyBadgerDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HoneyBadgerDC)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ruled-out-dating-a-guy-who-gives-his-dog-beer/630070/65 "2012-08-02T12:51:13Z")
My bird dog, 65# learned he could tip over my beer can and lick it up. I started pooring him about 1/2 can and he seemed to enjoy it. He lived 16 years and was a wonderful dog. I have another friend with a pet pig that he eventualy ate but the pig got at least two six packs a week. He claimed it would improve the taste of the meat. I couldn’t eat a pet. ---
**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ruled-out-dating-a-guy-who-gives-his-dog-beer/630070/66 "2012-08-02T13:07:01Z")
> [@azraiel](#): > > _Chronically_. Christ, for a board dedicated to fighting ignorance, the ignorance about alcohol is frightening. > > Do you know what triggered the horticultural revolution? Beer. Do you know what the drove the advent of currency? Beer. Do you know what the majority of humanity has consumed for liquid since 10,000 BCE? Beer. > > Beer is not–as claimed above–full of empty calories. Beer is actually an incredibly nutritious food. Canines do well will grains and grain extracts complementing their diets, and a beer or two a day (5% or below, less depending upon size) is a perfectly healthy adjunct to regular diet. > > But hey, OP. Your ignorance obviously colors your impressions. I agree that you should avoid the dude. He deserves the boon. A beer or two a day is all that is reccommended for a fully grown _person_ to consume. Scale that down to a 50# dog and common sense might indicate that it’s not the best idea. ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ruled-out-dating-a-guy-who-gives-his-dog-beer/630070/67 "2012-08-02T15:36:06Z")
I think the guy’s a lunatic. A case of week for a dog??? Wow. I’m curious if the dog told him specifically to get the beer. I wouldn’t be surprised. It’s recommended to ditch this guy. You strike me as a bit strange. Twice, you used the term/phrase (or similar wording) ‘question his empathy.’ Hmmmm…I’m kinda wondering what’s up with that one. ---
**Author:** ![Poster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/0ea827/32.png) [@Poster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poster)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ruled-out-dating-a-guy-who-gives-his-dog-beer/630070/68 "2012-08-02T17:23:29Z")
> [@handsomeharry](#): > > I think the guy’s a lunatic. A case of week for a dog??? > Wow. I’m curious if the dog told him specifically to get the beer. I wouldn’t be surprised. > It’s recommended to ditch this guy. > > You strike me as a bit strange. Twice, you used the term/phrase (or similar wording) ‘question his empathy.’ Hmmmm…I’m kinda wondering what’s up with that one. I find it strange that people don’t see how others treat animals as an indication of empathy. Seems like a lot of people are missing the point in this thread, and more than one person has even become hostile for absolutely no reason. ---
**Author:** ![Poster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/0ea827/32.png) [@Poster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poster)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ruled-out-dating-a-guy-who-gives-his-dog-beer/630070/69 "2012-08-02T17:25:19Z")
> [@azraiel](#): > > _Chronically_. Christ, for a board dedicated to fighting ignorance, the ignorance about alcohol is frightening. > > Do you know what triggered the horticultural revolution? Beer. Do you know what the drove the advent of currency? Beer. Do you know what the majority of humanity has consumed for liquid since 10,000 BCE? Beer. > > Beer is not–as claimed above–full of empty calories. Beer is actually an incredibly nutritious food. Canines do well will grains and grain extracts complementing their diets, and a beer or two a day (5% or below, less depending upon size) is a perfectly healthy adjunct to regular diet. > > But hey, OP. Your ignorance obviously colors your impressions. I agree that you should avoid the dude. He deserves the boon. I also don’t date weirdos who get hostile for no reason. There are dealbreakers, but then there are basic red flags! ---
**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ruled-out-dating-a-guy-who-gives-his-dog-beer/630070/70 "2012-08-02T17:27:36Z")
> [@azraiel](#): > > _Chronically_. Christ, for a board dedicated to fighting ignorance, the ignorance about alcohol is frightening. > > Do you know what triggered the horticultural revolution? Beer. Do you know what the drove the advent of currency? Beer. Do you know what the majority of humanity has consumed for liquid since 10,000 BCE? Beer. > > Beer is not–as claimed above–full of empty calories. **Beer is actually an incredibly nutritious food.** Canines do well will grains and grain extracts complementing their diets, and a beer or two a day (5% or below, less depending upon size) is a perfectly healthy adjunct to regular diet. > > But hey, OP. Your ignorance obviously colors your impressions. I agree that you should avoid the dude. He deserves the boon. **Poster,** don’t judge the board by this thread…poke around a little bit. It’s a fun place. I get the impressoin that **azraiel** had just had an incredibly nutritious meal before posting that. ---
**Author:** ![Poster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/0ea827/32.png) [@Poster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poster)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ruled-out-dating-a-guy-who-gives-his-dog-beer/630070/71 "2012-08-02T17:33:00Z")
> [@Sicks\_Ate](#): > > **Poster,** don’t judge the board by this thread…poke around a little bit. It’s a fun place. > > I get the impressoin that **azraiel** had just had an incredibly nutritious meal before posting that. Haha, thank you, Sicks Ate! ---
**Author:** ![fjs1fs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9e8a1a/32.png) [@fjs1fs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fjs1fs)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ruled-out-dating-a-guy-who-gives-his-dog-beer/630070/72 "2012-08-02T20:57:33Z")
> [@Poster](#): > > The places I apparently read it was illegal are not credible enough sources. I think what they probably mean is that it absolutely can be cited as animal cruelty, and cruelty is illegal. It probably depends on the circumstance, but I’m not sure. > > Re: effects – > From the ASPCA: > > ``` > "Dogs are far more sensitive to ethanol than humans are. Even ingesting a small amount of a product containing alcohol can cause significant intoxication... Alcohol intoxication commonly causes vomiting, loss of coordination, disorientation and stupor. In severe cases, coma, seizures and death may occur..." > > Also: > > "Cultivated hops used for brewing beer have been associated with potentially life-threatening signs in dogs who have ingested them. Both fresh and spent (cooked) hops have been implicated in poisoning dogs. Affected dogs develop an uncontrollably high body temperature... which results in damage to and failure of multiple organ systems." > > ``` This guy is a jerk! Inform him that he should stop feeding his dog so much beer. Why the hell is he doing this to begin with? What do you LIKE about this jerk? Sorry to be so blount. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ruled-out-dating-a-guy-who-gives-his-dog-beer/630070/73 "2012-08-02T21:03:08Z")
> [@Poster](#): > > They ARE smaller cans of beer, not 12 oz. But I don’t think it’s good for the dog and an asshole thing to do to an animal you’re supposed to take care of. > [@Chimera](#): > > Are you sure it’s not a case of Bowser Beer? Yah, I was wondering that as well. I’ve never seen a human beer that retails in less than 12-ounce cans (or bottles). I’m not saying that no such beer exists, but you’d really have to work hard to find it. Even high-alcohol beers normally sell in 12-ounce cans or bottles, or in pint bottles. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ruled-out-dating-a-guy-who-gives-his-dog-beer/630070/74 "2012-08-02T23:24:59Z")
> [@Mr.Excellent](#): > > Yah, I was wondering that as well. I’ve never seen a human beer that retails in less than 12-ounce cans (or bottles). [Rollin Rock](http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.chuckthomas.com/rrock/images/rrtapac7.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.chuckthomas.com/rrock/rrtaps.htm&h=600&w=580&sz=39&tbnid=23f1b3Il_HShSM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=87&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dpony%2Bbeer%2Bbottle%2Bsize%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=pony+beer+bottle+size&usg=__rgLZP1vAzr8Y1cG-U2yn5esBkIA=&docid=eHYbtUmI86rY4M&hl=en&sa=X&ei=xgsbUKPAIqO46wHKzIHgBg&ved=0CGUQ9QEwBA&dur=68) (RIP) sold beer in [ponies.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_bottle#Small_bottles) Not that this has anything to do with anything.😃 ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2012, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ruled-out-dating-a-guy-who-gives-his-dog-beer/630070/75 "2012-08-03T00:29:32Z")
What’s the “(RIP)” for? Rolling Rock still exists, doesn’t it? Coulda sworn I saw some not too long ago. Anyhow, my doggie seems to enjoy sipping on some beer. I would never ever, as a regular course, give him beer, much less a case a week. That just sounds crazy to me, and I drink beer pretty much every day. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2012, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ruled-out-dating-a-guy-who-gives-his-dog-beer/630070/76 "2012-08-03T00:33:02Z")
> [@Mr.Excellent](#): > > Yah, I was wondering that as well. I’ve never seen a human beer that retails in less than 12-ounce cans (or bottles). I’m not saying that no such beer exists, but you’d really have to work hard to find it. Even high-alcohol beers normally sell in 12-ounce cans or bottles, or in pint bottles. This is going to be an annoying nitpick, but 11.2 oz (about 333 mL) is not unusual. Guinness Draft in a bottle, for example, is 11.2 oz. There’s a number of European beers I’ve seen sold in that size (like some Stiegl I recently bought). Nothing I’d buy by the case and give to the dog, though. ---
**Author:** ![misterW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@misterW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/misterW)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2012, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ruled-out-dating-a-guy-who-gives-his-dog-beer/630070/77 "2012-08-03T00:36:36Z")
I would certainly judge him on that. Sounds like an idiot. While I doubt the beer will do any immediate harm, it’s a fairly safe bet that it’s not a healthy thing for the dog to be consuming. What motivation does he have to do it? Because he thinks it’s funny? ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2012, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ruled-out-dating-a-guy-who-gives-his-dog-beer/630070/78 "2012-08-03T02:37:11Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > What’s the “(RIP)” for? Rolling Rock still exists, doesn’t it? Coulda sworn I saw some not too long ago. the original brewery in Latrobe, PA sold out. The beer is made elsewhere and “they” say it’s shit. They = people in Latrobe, PA.😃 [ETA a cite](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_Rock) ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2012, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ruled-out-dating-a-guy-who-gives-his-dog-beer/630070/79 "2012-08-03T03:21:34Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > the original brewery in Latrobe, PA sold out. The beer is made elsewhere and “they” say it’s shit. > > They = people in Latrobe, PA.😃 > > [ETA a cite](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_Rock) Ah. Well, I haven’t had Rolling Rock since before they sold out, so if “they” say it’s shit now, I can’t even imagine… ---
**Author:** ![azraiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@azraiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/azraiel)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2012, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ruled-out-dating-a-guy-who-gives-his-dog-beer/630070/80 "2012-08-03T08:24:00Z")
> [@Sicks\_Ate](#): > > **Poster,** don’t judge the board by this thread…poke around a little bit. It’s a fun place. > > I get the impressoin that **azraiel** had just had an incredibly nutritious meal before posting that. Ain’t you cute. I’ve spent a lot of time around the industry, production, and consumption of ethanol. What scares me is the fundamental ignorance of the US population about it, its consumption, and its effects. The population of the US retains a scary amount of Prohibition misinformation and myth in its collective consciousness. Both misinformation and myth have been propagated under the aegis of confronting (validly and rightfully) drunk driving. **Monkey** , yes beer was safer than water, but that’s not why it was the driver of civilization. First, it provided the impetus to cultivate crops (not the desire to make bread), because people like to get buzzed. Second, it provided a very efficient source of healthful calories, harnessed to build things like, you know, the Pyramids. Third, it required fewer tools and equipment than almost any other manufactured product–with access to ingredients, all that’s needed is a hole in the ground. **Sicks** You look _smashing_ in that armor, but the recommendations you allude to come out of the provincial Prohibition myths noted above. **Poster** I don’t date people who proudly bring a metric shit-ton of ignorance onto a message board dedicated to fighting ignorance. Lucky it worked out for the both of us, huh? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ruled-out-dating-a-guy-who-gives-his-dog-beer/630070.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ruled-out-dating-a-guy-who-gives-his-dog-beer/630070.md?page=5)