# Ruled out dating a guy who gives his dog beer? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [August 1, 2012, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ruled-out-dating-a-guy-who-gives-his-dog-beer/630070 "2012-08-01T16:38:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ruled-out-dating-a-guy-who-gives-his-dog-beer/630070/101 "2012-08-10T11:11:03Z")
> [@Poster](#): > > A lot of your opinions seem to hinge on the quantity – the CASE. Were it a 12- or even 6-pack of ponies, would it really change your assessment of him?! I could accept a six pack of ponies, an eighth of weed, and two ludes. Dogs gotsta party. ---
**Author:** ![slm2955](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c6cbf5/32.png) [@slm2955](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slm2955)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ruled-out-dating-a-guy-who-gives-his-dog-beer/630070/102 "2012-08-10T16:28:40Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > It is quite fair to make assumptions about someone’s character based on their actions. > > Especially when they’re doing something really stupid like buying a case of beer for their dog every week. The guy’s a fucking idiot. > > It is also reasonable to judge people based on their friends. “A man is known by the company he keeps.” > > If the company this guy keeps includes a friend who likes to troll the internet for underage girls with psychological problems, then **Poster** should definitely hold that against him. I’d be wary of anyone who doesn’t find that creepy and disgusting. I get why the poster would feel that way but I still think it’s an unfair assesment if he isn’t even doing things of that nature… ---
**Author:** ![FlyingRat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/59ef9b/32.png) [@FlyingRat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyingRat)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ruled-out-dating-a-guy-who-gives-his-dog-beer/630070/103 "2012-08-10T18:38:35Z")
> [@slm2955](#): > > I get why the poster would feel that way but I still think it’s an unfair assesment if he isn’t even doing things of that nature… No, it’s not an unfair assessment at all. What **Poster’s** subject is conveying via his actions-- specifically, that he stays friends with a dude who blatantly preys on women, without speaking up-- is that the safety of women does not register as important to him, at least not as much as having a good time. That is not acceptable, and is one of the things that perpetuates sexual assault and rape in our culture. The fact that dude also “likes him and finds it funny” says even more. [Real men (and women) don’t do this kind of shit, and don’t put up with it from their friends.](http://captainawkward.com/2012/08/07/322-323-my-friend-group-has-a-case-of-the-creepy-dude-how-do-we-clear-that-up/) Period. It’s a kind of behavior that has to be called out, every time it happens, and that’s hard to do sometimes, but it’s important. Silence is complicit in acceptance. ---
**Author:** ![Poster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/0ea827/32.png) [@Poster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poster)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ruled-out-dating-a-guy-who-gives-his-dog-beer/630070/104 "2012-08-14T21:12:50Z")
Relevant update! It turns out he had been hiding a girlfriend all along while (attempting to) carry on with me. I got to talking with her about him recently, not realizing they were dating, and, well, they broke up! He is basically a lying, manipulative sociopath. Make of this development what you will, but I think my instincts were correct. Tangential to the story, but: the idiot girl just got back together with him and started making jokes at MY expense even though I’ve done absolutely nothing wrong here. She was actually making fun of the fact that I was trying to be very kind to and supportive of HER while she was upset about this. That says a lot about the kind of woman who WOULD be willing to be with a guy like this, for those of you who found my concerns off-base! ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ruled-out-dating-a-guy-who-gives-his-dog-beer/630070/105 "2012-08-14T21:27:26Z")
Wow. Good judgment. > [@Poster](#): > > Tangential to the story, but: the idiot girl just got back together with him and started making jokes at MY expense even though I’ve done absolutely nothing wrong here. How do you know that? Neither of the parties are reliable witnesses. Did you witness her making fun of you? ---
**Author:** ![Poster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/0ea827/32.png) [@Poster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poster)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ruled-out-dating-a-guy-who-gives-his-dog-beer/630070/106 "2012-08-14T21:37:51Z")
> [@bup](#): > > Wow. Good judgment. > > How do you know that? Neither of the parties are reliable witnesses. Did you witness her making fun of you? Yep, online. After she went back to him I told her more damning info and they might be off again, but she’s clearly as big an a-hole as he is, and he’s very good at being manipulative, so it wouldn’t surprise me if they get back together again. I felt so bad for her and tried to be there for her the whole time while she was freaking out and now I’m just thinking, “they deserve each other.” Still, I hope they break up so he suffers some sort of consequence. Why? After she found out about this, he verbally abused me in a rage. Not just calling me an a-hole or something like that, I mean, really vile, despicable things about me. I have never been verbally abused before. I also did nothing wrong, meanwhile he has told multiple people that I am mentally ill, and they believe him. They harassed me (online) at one point for it. The guy is a legit psychopath. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ruled-out-dating-a-guy-who-gives-his-dog-beer/630070/107 "2012-08-14T21:44:02Z")
Sounds like the four of you just need to get together with a case of beer. ---
**Author:** ![sugaree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@sugaree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sugaree)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2012, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ruled-out-dating-a-guy-who-gives-his-dog-beer/630070/108 "2012-08-14T21:59:04Z")
> [@Kaio](#): > > No, I don’t think so. My cat was stoned on opiates last night having just been through oral surgery. I’m sure it took care of the pain, but he did NOT like being stoned. He was miserable. > > I can’t imagine a dog would like being drunk any better, and a dog isn’t going to draw the connection between drinking beer and feeling woozy and drunk. The human is old enough to know better. > > And on a case a week – even with smaller beer bottles, that dog is smaller than a human, too. You can damn well bet that dog is getting drunk, and probably every day. And frankly, that much alcohol isn’t good for a human liver, nevermind a dog where the BAC is proportionally higher. They sent my cat home from surgery with three days worth of liquid painkillers and ten days worth of liquid antibiotics. First we’d pin him down and squirt in the antibiotics. Then we’d pin him down and squirt in the painkiller. It seemed to take effect quickly. First, his eyes would get all glazed. Then, he’d get extra affectionate and start rubbing up on us, purring loudly. On the fourth day, we gave him his liquid antibiotic and let him go. He looked at us, expectantly. Then he started meowing in the same tone he uses when he’s begging for Pounce. Let’s not even go into the stories about dogs stealing drinks and cats eating marijuana plants and bears having beer parties. No, I think it varies by animal, just like it does by person. ---
**Author:** ![slm2955](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c6cbf5/32.png) [@slm2955](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slm2955)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ruled-out-dating-a-guy-who-gives-his-dog-beer/630070/109 "2012-08-15T02:37:23Z")
> [@Poster](#): > > Yep, online. After she went back to him I told her more damning info and they might be off again, but she’s clearly as big an a-hole as he is, and he’s very good at being manipulative, so it wouldn’t surprise me if they get back together again. I felt so bad for her and tried to be there for her the whole time while she was freaking out and now I’m just thinking, “they deserve each other.” Still, I hope they break up so he suffers some sort of consequence. Why? > > After she found out about this, he verbally abused me in a rage. Not just calling me an a-hole or something like that, I mean, really vile, despicable things about me. I have never been verbally abused before. I also did nothing wrong, meanwhile he has told multiple people that I am mentally ill, and they believe him. They harassed me (online) at one point for it. > > The guy is a legit psychopath. enough with the lies already… ---
**Author:** ![Poster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/0ea827/32.png) [@Poster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poster)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ruled-out-dating-a-guy-who-gives-his-dog-beer/630070/110 "2012-08-15T03:05:53Z")
> [@slm2955](#): > > enough with the lies already… Uhh, this is not a lie. Every single thing I have included here is true. Please don’t hijack my thread again, although it’s basically done. I don’t think every guy who plies animals with alcohol is necessarily as pathological as this guy. I was done with this thread, but in light of what happened over this weekend, I thought people might be interested in this update. ---
**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ruled-out-dating-a-guy-who-gives-his-dog-beer/630070/111 "2012-08-15T03:16:25Z")
It’s a very good story anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Poster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/0ea827/32.png) [@Poster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poster)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2012, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ruled-out-dating-a-guy-who-gives-his-dog-beer/630070/112 "2012-08-15T03:31:48Z")
> [@Cicero](#): > > It’s a very good story anyway. Ha, maybe I’ll come to see it that way in time. I wish I had never interacted with this vile human being. I am going to take the experience as support for my instincts and judgments, but like others have pointed out, beering the dog can be a sign of the owner’s own dysfunctional relationship with alcohol, and not necessarily mean they are empathy-impaired (like this dude). This guy had tremors and other withdrawal symptoms when he quit drinking (then he went back on it and quit again this past weekend, perhaps to win the gf back), so he probably was an alcoholic, not merely a “problem drinker.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ruled-out-dating-a-guy-who-gives-his-dog-beer/630070.md?page=5)