# "Rules" - what a fucking joke

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rules-what-a-fucking-joke/115790>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 24, 2002, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rules-what-a-fucking-joke/115790 "2002-06-24T23:34:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2002, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rules-what-a-fucking-joke/115790/41 "2002-06-25T03:40:16Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Uekte \*  
> \*\*  
> So, in your OPINION, I couldn’t possibly have a factual answer. Your OPINION allows you to create a special rule just for me?  
> \*\*

Yeah, pretty much. This is a private message board. The mods can do whatever the hell they want. It’s good to be the king. Luckily, they’re nice enough to give us some guidelines to help us avoid problems, but they’re not bound to them. Of course, most of us are able to beat a sea urchin in a chess match, so it’s usually not a problem. I don’t know what advice to give you, on the other hand.

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**Author:** ![Road\_Rash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a8b319/32.png) [@Road\_Rash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Road_Rash)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2002, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rules-what-a-fucking-joke/115790/42 "2002-06-25T03:52:33Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Dooku \*  
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> At the risk of Uekte accusing me of being your “yes man”: **manhattan** , that was gold. Comedy gold. I’m going to remember this during my commute home and start cackling like mad, freaking out the other train passengers. This retort all by itself almost makes Uekte’s presence here worthwhile.
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> Almost. \*\*

Not really. that is a rather common comeback for Manhattan, you just have not read enough of his posts. I don’t have anything to say about the OP. I have passed on his posts. Manhattan, though, needs new clever response. I don’t mean to be mean to the moderator, I mean to challenge him.

Telling one poster alone to refrain from posting on a thread may have no precedent. I do not care to research now, I am still a little weary from the Pit thread about that chick who keeps bitching about. So I am not planning on doing a detailed review of his posts. The post in question seemed weird, but harmless, but he likely has a history of weird, annoying posts.

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2002, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rules-what-a-fucking-joke/115790/43 "2002-06-25T03:58:01Z")

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Mmmmmmm…I’m about to throw my rep to the winds, but here goes.

I can understand **Uekte** ’s feeling stung.

His opinions are unfounded, his tone is unpleasant, and his attitude is belligerent.

We’ve had such posters here, and they’ve been banned.

But usually, bannings either follow stern warnings (often in e-mail as well as on the board, I imagine) or they occur when the poster is just out of the gate.

**Uetke** established an identity similar to ones that have gotten people banned after 10 posts. But he wasn’t banned. He was allowed to stay long enough to state a defense. The defense was not accepted, but he did get to state it. I think that opportunity, plus his silence for approx. a week (remember, he stopped responding to the “fuckface” thread in the Pit) gave him the hope that he could continue stating his “unpopular” opinions. As someone else pointed out in the closed thread, many active posters state unpopular opinions around here.

I’m not a mod, so I don’t know **precisely** what prompts a banning. Some people have been nasty in ways that made me say, “I can’t believe they’re not banned!”, but they weren’t. However, the **decision** to ban is that of the mods’. And as **Libertarian** pointed out in the closed thread, the mods are not machines, so I’m not claiming that any one banning or continued registration is fair or unfair.

But I can see how **Uekte** was able to take **manhattan** ’s warning as an insult. It wasn’t “Say something like that again and you’re banned”, it was “If you post in **this** thread, you’ll go to bed without supper.” I thought the MO was to warn an unpleasant person , then let him post away, and ban him if he went over the line despite the warnings.

But the GQ thread sounds like **Uekte** ’s a dog being told to stay off the couch. It does sound like different rules: he’s not being banned, just restricted.

Again, nothing personal to **manhattan**. I know you’re human, and I know you’ve saved the SDMB’s collective bacon more than once. Just channeling Voltaire for a moment.

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**Author:** ![Road\_Rash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a8b319/32.png) [@Road\_Rash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Road_Rash)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2002, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rules-what-a-fucking-joke/115790/44 "2002-06-25T04:06:10Z")

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Proofreading is essential. I meant to complete the sentence about Pit thread of that chick and her boyfriend who kept arguing online.

I like banned poster spotting. What was the final thing said that banned him (or her). Were there any warnings? Or was the guilty party quietly banned.

Call me stupid, but I am somewhere between being tired but not sleepy.

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**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2002, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rules-what-a-fucking-joke/115790/45 "2002-06-25T04:12:36Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Uekte \*  
> \*\*Goodbye, hive-mind! May you all follow each other faithfully over the cliff. Rot in hell, you fucking losers. \*\*

So I take it this is an official farewell?

Okay. Bye.

Now then…

Is there, or is there not, a kinky pizza party now in progress in this thread?  
Just checking.

😃

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**Author:** ![reprise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@reprise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/reprise)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2002, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rules-what-a-fucking-joke/115790/46 "2002-06-25T04:13:44Z")

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Does anyone else think **Uekte** ’s complaints are getting _old_?

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**Author:** ![Road\_Rash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a8b319/32.png) [@Road\_Rash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Road_Rash)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2002, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rules-what-a-fucking-joke/115790/47 "2002-06-25T04:17:56Z")

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Dooku’s thread, which is about in 4th place as I write has a detailed thread of numerous posts of Uekle. Thanks for saving me from the research.

A long time ago, I proposed a banned posters forum. Most people got confused. In the future I will propose “banned poster thread spotting.” Incorporating my above posts ideas.

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**Author:** ![Squish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Squish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squish)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2002, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rules-what-a-fucking-joke/115790/48 "2002-06-25T04:31:56Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Duck Duck Goose \*  
> \*\*  
> So I take it this is an official farewell?
> 
> Okay. Bye.\*\*

Don’t get your hopes up: we’re so charismatic he just keeps coming back.

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> **Is there, or is there not, a kinky pizza party now in progress in this thread?**

Mmmm…is it _hot_?

Does it have lots of _meat_?

Is the cheese just _mmmmelting_?

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**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2002, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rules-what-a-fucking-joke/115790/49 "2002-06-25T04:43:24Z")

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I hope I hope I hope!

No??  
U whatever…put my handle in you next pit post would ya?

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**Author:** ![lenin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3bc359/32.png) [@lenin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lenin)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2002, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rules-what-a-fucking-joke/115790/50 "2002-06-25T05:32:21Z")

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**Uekte** , the reason the no one is banning those who want to get rid of you is that you are bringing those sorts of requests upon yourself.

You repeatedly just spout out obscenities towards anyone who argues one of your posts, then when people get mad, you accuse everyone of being sycophants(to whom, I don’t know).

Do you really think you’ll build a fan base this way? The more appropriate method would have been to start by selling baseball caps and T-Shirts with your logo on it.

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**Author:** ![lenin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3bc359/32.png) [@lenin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lenin)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2002, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rules-what-a-fucking-joke/115790/51 "2002-06-25T05:33:34Z")

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Oh, and as far as I can remember, no one has been banned for asking to ban another user. It’s not a case of “special rules for certain people,” it’s that the rule is just a minute one that no mod is going to throw a tantrum about.

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**Author:** ![reprise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@reprise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/reprise)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2002, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rules-what-a-fucking-joke/115790/52 "2002-06-25T05:36:53Z")

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If the mods believed for a moment that **Ukekte** had left never to return, this thread would already be locked.

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**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2002, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rules-what-a-fucking-joke/115790/53 "2002-06-25T06:27:09Z")

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Well, I’m just glad that we could validate his persecution complex. He’s probably sitting at home, staring at his poster of Britney Spears, thinking to himself, “Ha! I showed those old farts how superior I am!” In fact, we probably raised his self esteem up a few notches.

Another good deed performed by the SDMB Good Feelin’s Committee.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2002, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rules-what-a-fucking-joke/115790/54 "2002-06-25T10:00:12Z")

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> \*Originally posted by SoulFrost \*  
> \*\*This is your cue to begin feeling like a total Butt Chigger. \*\*

Thanks for the first good laugh of the day!

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**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2002, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rules-what-a-fucking-joke/115790/55 "2002-06-25T10:17:56Z")

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**Uekte,** I did insult you, although rather mildly. I intend to insult you every chance I get. You deserve to be insulted. You are a complete waste of oxygen and your stated views on the elderly are an insult to me personally, and to every right-thinking person alive. You are completely despicable, a word I don’t use lightly. In your case, I use it because it fits. You are scum, wretched, slimy, smelly, scum. You are what Southerners have in mind when they use the word “trash.” You are not fit to live among decent people.

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**Author:** ![Shade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Shade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shade)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2002, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rules-what-a-fucking-joke/115790/56 "2002-06-25T10:32:00Z")

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I was a bit shocked at the use of power, but I still think it was entirely appropriate since, well, it worked. The piling on and baiting is in the pit. The GQ is in GQ.

Can I suggest that if **Uekte** has something relevant to the GQ, email a mod privately saying “BlahBlahBlah is relevent. Can I post it.” Then when it turns out it wasn’t we can praise manhattens forsight. Oh, and if by any chance anyone was wrongly baned from a thread they can post too.

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**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2002, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rules-what-a-fucking-joke/115790/57 "2002-06-25T10:49:38Z")

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OK people, help me out here.

> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Uekte \*  
> **Didn’t think so - they’re brownshirts in good standing, with not a divergent thought. Heil Hitler!**

OK, this is obviously Godwin’s Law at work. However…

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> **Goodbye, hive-mind!**

This seems to be an invocation that we are the Borg, and that “resistance is futile”. Is this some sort of new Law, like Janeway’s Law? Picard’s Law? 😕

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2002, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rules-what-a-fucking-joke/115790/58 "2002-06-25T11:46:57Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Anthracite \*  
> \*\*This seems to be an invocation that we are the Borg, and that “resistance is futile”. Is this some sort of new Law, like Janeway’s Law? Picard’s Law? 😕 \*\*

The “hive mind” argument is a favorite on the USENET. It generally is used just like Ukeltele did:

The poster writes something mind-bogglingly stupid OR borderline trollish that _no one_ agrees with. The troll then accuses the entire group of being a “hive mind” (first time I’d heard this useage was on rec.arts.sf.written, so that may have something to do with it) rather than considering the troll’s arguements.

In any case, it’s just a varient of the “Clique” arguement (“You all just hate me 'cause I’m speaking out against the clique”)

As an aside, anyone else notice that Ulkete also used The Appeal to Invisible Authority in his newest farewell post? "I have what I came here for - people who agree with me and who want to know what we can do about it - "

:: Looks up thread…looks down thread ::

Did ANYONE agree with Ultkele? And what _can_ you do about it.

And what _is_ it?

And what’s it all about, Ukele?

Fenris

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**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2002, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rules-what-a-fucking-joke/115790/59 "2002-06-25T12:05:20Z")

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Uekte, let me put this in terms you can understand:

Manny is on the other team and he’s holding the A, K, Q, and J of spades, and the J of clubs.

The bid goes to you and having gotten a little cocky because you have the 10 AND 9 of spades, you’ve just ordered up spades as trump.

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**Author:** ![Sauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@Sauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sauron)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2002, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rules-what-a-fucking-joke/115790/60 "2002-06-25T14:02:30Z")

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Folks, I’m getting a little tired of the intentional misspellings of **Uekte** ’s board handle. Rather than go through all that, let’s just refer to him phonetically as **Weak Tea**. His thoughts have all the clarity of that opaque beverage.

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