# Rumer Willis

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumer-willis/400314>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 16, 2007, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumer-willis/400314 "2007-04-16T11:33:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Abby\_Emma\_Sasha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e68b1a/32.png) [@Abby\_Emma\_Sasha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abby_Emma_Sasha)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumer-willis/400314/41 "2007-04-16T16:18:11Z")

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\*\*WhyNot, \*\* I’ll send you the wine if you agree Clive Owen is a better James Bond than that Craig guy or whatever his name is.

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**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumer-willis/400314/42 "2007-04-16T16:29:59Z")

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[QUOTE=Abby\_Emma\_Sasha]  
Then I fear for Hollywood. I’m sorry but Ashton looks like a pumpkin.  
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Then I guess we agree.

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumer-willis/400314/43 "2007-04-16T16:33:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Abby\_Emma\_Sasha]  
\*\*WhyNot, \*\* I’ll send you the wine if you agree Clive Owen is a better James Bond than that Craig guy or whatever his name is.  
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Oh, please, BARNEY would be a better James Bond than that Craig guy. Clive Owen was definitely yummarific in [Gosford Park](http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0280707/Ss/0280707/DISC1-19copy.jpg.html?hint=tt0280707), but his character was so creepy in [Closer](http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0376541/Ss/0376541/SG-03.jpg.html?path=gallery&path_key=0376541) that I need a bit to get that out of my head. I really regret not seeing _Children of Men_ in the theater. It’s on my rental queue!

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumer-willis/400314/44 "2007-04-16T16:37:59Z")

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Genetics is the world’s most bizarre crap shoot. Isabella Lloyd Webber, whose two parents are not going to win any beauty contests, is not only destined to be extremely wealthy, but she’s growing into quite a beauty. I saw her at Phantom a couple of years back.

The only photo I can find of the family is a couple of years old, but [here](http://www.voltegyszeregycsapat.hu/Actual/Pictures/Webber_kitunt/Webber_kitunt01_h.html) they are at the Hungarian opening of The Beautiful Game.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumer-willis/400314/45 "2007-04-16T16:38:25Z")

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I also think it’s incredibly cruel to pick on the offspring of celebs. The celebs themselves, one could argue, bring it upon themselves by going out into the spotlight.

But their kids? What the fuck-they didn’t choose to be famous.

Like everyone picking on Chelsea Clinton, because they didn’t like her father’s politics. She was _13_. Which is probably one of the most insecure, toughest ages for a girl to be.

Of course, she had the last laugh-she’s pretty hot now, and Rush Limbaugh is just a fat, thrice-divorced drug addict.

ETA: not having seen the _Bond_ films, I can’t comment on that. But Daniel Craig is pretty hot. AND he wants Bond to have a guy-on-guy fling. THAT’s pretty damned sexy if you ask me.

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**Author:** ![Abby\_Emma\_Sasha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e68b1a/32.png) [@Abby\_Emma\_Sasha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abby_Emma_Sasha)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumer-willis/400314/46 "2007-04-16T16:47:05Z")

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> But Daniel Craig is pretty hot. AND he wants Bond to have a guy-on-guy fling. THAT’s pretty damned sexy if you ask me.

It would be even hotter if Clive Owen was having the fling.  
Isabella LLoyd Weber not only has a lovely mother, she is a little beauty herself. Andrew is not a looker himself, but damn I love his musicals.

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**Author:** ![Abby\_Emma\_Sasha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e68b1a/32.png) [@Abby\_Emma\_Sasha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abby_Emma_Sasha)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumer-willis/400314/47 "2007-04-16T16:54:04Z")

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**Guin** I totally agree. Kids are off limits until they enter the business. And Chelsea is a cutie. So is Tori. So is Karenna Gore Schiff. And, yes, so are the Bush twins. I’m sorry I cannot agree on the Craig guy. I don’t like him. Maybe you’ve heard I like Clive Owen as Bond. Oh well, I’m not in charge.

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**Author:** ![MizGrand](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cdc98d/32.png) [@MizGrand](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MizGrand)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumer-willis/400314/48 "2007-04-16T17:58:06Z")

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[QUOTE=WhyNot]  
Alright, I’ll out the elephant in the living room:  
But it’s not going to go that way for you, I fear. That level of discourse requires a comfortability with all the trashtalkers involved that we (okay, _I_, I can’t speak for others) don’t feel towards you right now. All you’re going to get is hostility and resistance. And, frankly, you’re trying too hard and it’s a little embarrassing.  
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Oh…I can see your point. It’s a fair point to make.

I’ll not open any new discussion threads for a while, unless I have a valid question.

No hard feelings, please. 🆒

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**Author:** ![Abby\_Emma\_Sasha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e68b1a/32.png) [@Abby\_Emma\_Sasha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abby_Emma_Sasha)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumer-willis/400314/49 "2007-04-16T18:11:00Z")

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**Miz** there are no hard feelings from me. I didn’t like the situation in your previous thread, but I don’t condemn you to the pits of hell. Some of us understand the human condition.

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**Author:** ![Caridwen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c89c15/32.png) [@Caridwen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caridwen)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumer-willis/400314/50 "2007-04-16T18:42:19Z")

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[QUOTE=MizGrand]  
Oh…I can see your point. It’s a fair point to make.

I’ll not open any new discussion threads for a while, unless I have a valid question.

No hard feelings, please. 🆒  
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You paid your 15 bucks, you have just as much right to post as anyone else does.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumer-willis/400314/51 "2007-04-16T18:50:51Z")

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I saw her in **Hostage**. She played the daughter of Bruce Willis’ character in the film. I thought she looked nice in the movie. Not unattractive at all.

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**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumer-willis/400314/52 "2007-04-16T19:12:26Z")

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[QUOTE=WhyNot]  
I’m totally sincere in my wish that she finds happiness, but I feel a pit of anger and ick in my stomach when I see her username (the new one) and it \*does \*influence how I read her posts and how I respond, even to a seeming fluff thread. She did that, and she deserves to know it.  
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If you feel she deserves to know it, then let her know in either private communication, in an appropriate Pit thread, or in a thread where she’s soliciting such opinions. What doesn’t need to happen, however, is a hijack in unrelated threads just so you can bring up her past actions. If, for some reason, you do not feel you can post in a **MizGrand** without bringing up (unrelated) past disagreements, then it’s wiser to stay out of her threads.

This, of course, applies to everyone–not just **WhyNot**.

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**Author:** ![MizGrand](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cdc98d/32.png) [@MizGrand](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MizGrand)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumer-willis/400314/53 "2007-04-16T19:29:28Z")

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I think that the ladies here arent’ looking at Ashton from an 18 y/o POV. Which is um, gosh should I say it(?) NORMAL.

I personally find [Matthew](http://www.imdb.com/gallery/granitz/2919/MatthewMcC_Cohen_4742707_400.jpg.html?path=pgallery&path_key=McConaughey%2C%20Matthew&seq=48) incredibly hot. And yes, he’s a young’un to my 41 years, I’m sure.

I just can’t wrap my brain around my mom, say, doin’ a guy that’s less than 10 years older than myself.

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumer-willis/400314/54 "2007-04-16T19:38:02Z")

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[QUOTE=MizGrand]  
I personally find [Matthew](http://www.imdb.com/gallery/granitz/2919/MatthewMcC_Cohen_4742707_400.jpg.html?path=pgallery&path_key=McConaughey%2C%20Matthew&seq=48) incredibly hot. And yes, he’s a young’un to my 41 years, I’m sure.  
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If you clicked on the link to his name in the top left of the page, you’d be relieved to find that he’s 37. Not too young at all.

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> I just can’t wrap my brain around my mom, say, doin’ a guy that’s less than 10 years older than myself.

It’d be weird, but wouldn’t you just be happy for her, if he was nice and all?

BTW, I think Rumer is lovely.

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**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumer-willis/400314/55 "2007-04-16T19:42:21Z")

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Ashton wasn’t my type when I WAS 18.

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumer-willis/400314/56 "2007-04-16T20:01:30Z")

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She cannot help her famous parents, but if she is hanging out with the likes of Lohan, that cannot be good.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumer-willis/400314/57 "2007-04-16T20:42:55Z")

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Rumer’s beautiful. She has shitty (or at least, worrying) taste in friends, but she’s beautiful.

[QUOTE=WhyNot]  
Oh, please, BARNEY would be a better James Bond than that Craig guy.  
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:eek: Oh my, no. Did you actually SEE **Casino Royale**? All the way through? If you did, then I’ll accept your (sadly, wrong-headed) opinion, but if you didn’t, please get back to me after you’ve seen it. The trailers and still images did NOT reflect how charismatic and hot Daniel Craig was in that role. He was perfect.

Not that I disagree about Clive Owen. He’s an amazing actor, and very very yummy. And yes, he would have made a good Bond, but not _better_ than Craig.

[QUOTE=WhyNot]  
I really regret not seeing _Children of Men_ in the theater. It’s on my rental queue!  
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It’s so good, I’m sure you’ll love it. (and btw, I loved your ‘other’ post).

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumer-willis/400314/58 "2007-04-16T20:52:20Z")

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[QUOTE=Equipoise]  
:eek: Oh my, no. Did you actually SEE **Casino Royale**? All the way through? If you did, then I’ll accept your (sadly, wrong-headed) opinion, but if you didn’t, please get back to me after you’ve seen it.  
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Actually…I fell asleep. :smack:

Ow! Stop hitting me! It was a long day with all the kids and probably not the best time to watch anything. _sigh_ Maybe I’ll give it another chance, on your recommendation.

[Gratuitous man-meat picture to keep the thread going.](http://www.genreonline.net/Genre_files/Spartacus6.jpg)

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**Author:** ![pinkfreud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pinkfreud/32/17603_2.png) [@pinkfreud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pinkfreud)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumer-willis/400314/59 "2007-04-16T21:01:37Z")

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[QUOTE=WhyNot]  
[Gratuitous man-meat picture to keep the thread going.](http://www.genreonline.net/Genre_files/Spartacus6.jpg)  
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Mmmm, Goran Visnjic. Thanks for posting that!

Regarding Rumer Willis, I saw her in _Hostage_, and I thought she was cute and natural-looking. She’s not a beauty, but I think she’s attractive.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumer-willis/400314/60 "2007-04-16T21:40:28Z")

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When I saw her [in Hostage](http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/2088/2881/1600/host_Image5.jpg), I thought she was homely. But a lot of teenagers are. I think she’s grown more attractive since then.

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