# Rumor mill: Granderson, Cano, A-Rod and Braun to be suspended for PED use **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 5, 2013, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumor-mill-granderson-cano-a-rod-and-braun-to-be-suspended-for-ped-use/652085 "2013-03-05T13:32:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumor-mill-granderson-cano-a-rod-and-braun-to-be-suspended-for-ped-use/652085/1 "2013-03-05T13:32:42Z")
Swirling the rumor mill this morning: [Three Yankees and a Brewer failed a PED test and will be suspended.](http://daps.tv/source-robinson-cano-alex-rodriguez-ryan-braun-and-curtis-granderson-to-be-suspended/) Alex Rodriguez, Robinson Cano, Curtis Granderson and Ryan Braun. This is coming from one source, Joe Bisceglie, but he called the Melky Cabrera suspension early on last year too. From the link: > [@](#): > > He’s [Bisceglie] unable to disclose his sources, but Joe’s been right about this type of news before. A full month before the suspension became official last summer, Joe’s anonymous source correctly identified Melky Cabrera as the next big name to be slapped with the 50 game fine. Granderson would be a huge disappointment to me if true. The others, not so much. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumor-mill-granderson-cano-a-rod-and-braun-to-be-suspended-for-ped-use/652085/2 "2013-03-05T13:46:57Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Granderson would be a huge disappointment to me if true. The others, not so much. Well, heck, I’ll be THRILLED if they finally get Braun. The guy was caught cheating, got off on a technicality, and he’s still doing it? ---
**Author:** ![OldGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3bc359/32.png) [@OldGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumor-mill-granderson-cano-a-rod-and-braun-to-be-suspended-for-ped-use/652085/3 "2013-03-05T15:25:58Z")
Rodriquez is currently on the disabled list and is expected to be until the All Star break. Let’s assume he gets suspended for 50 games. What prevents the Yankees from taking him off the disabled list 50 games early when he couldn’t have played in any case and serve a meaningless suspension? I don’t think suspended players either receive a salary nor count against the 25 man roster so I don’t see what the cost doing this would be. I’m don’t even believe they count in the 40 man roster. ---
**Author:** ![Stormcrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/0ea827/32.png) [@Stormcrow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stormcrow)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumor-mill-granderson-cano-a-rod-and-braun-to-be-suspended-for-ped-use/652085/4 "2013-03-05T16:15:54Z")
> [@OldGuy](#): > > Rodriquez is currently on the disabled list and is expected to be until the All Star break. Let’s assume he gets suspended for 50 games. What prevents the Yankees from taking him off the disabled list 50 games early when he couldn’t have played in any case and serve a meaningless suspension? They don’t even need to do that. He can serve the suspension while on the DL. It’s happened before, though I don’t know the player’s name off the top of my head. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumor-mill-granderson-cano-a-rod-and-braun-to-be-suspended-for-ped-use/652085/5 "2013-03-05T16:28:20Z")
I’ll believe it when MLB announces it. Rodriguez and Braun have been linked to [del]Dr. Nick[/del] Anthony Bosch, but nobody knows if that’s going to lead to suspensions because the newspaper may not share its notes with MLB. I’ve never heard anything solid about Granderson and Cano. > [@Stormcrow](#): > > They don’t even need to do that. He can serve the suspension while on the DL. It’s happened before, though I don’t know the player’s name off the top of my head. Edinson Volquez was the best known example. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumor-mill-granderson-cano-a-rod-and-braun-to-be-suspended-for-ped-use/652085/6 "2013-03-05T17:26:45Z")
> [@OldGuy](#): > > Rodriquez is currently on the disabled list and is expected to be until the All Star break. Let’s assume he gets suspended for 50 games. What prevents the Yankees from taking him off the disabled list 50 games early when he couldn’t have played in any case and serve a meaningless suspension? I don’t think suspended players either receive a salary nor count against the 25 man roster so I don’t see what the cost doing this would be. I’m don’t even believe they count in the 40 man roster. The cost is to the player not the team. The player loses his salary for about 1/3 of a season. So Arod would lose about 10 mil. That’s a pretty big fine. ---
**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumor-mill-granderson-cano-a-rod-and-braun-to-be-suspended-for-ped-use/652085/7 "2013-03-05T18:51:19Z")
Marley23: > [@](#): > > I’ve never heard anything solid about Granderson and Cano. I’d heard rumors about Cano last year on one of the SBNation blogs and the other posters to that thread seemed to consider the originator of the rumor to have a reliable track record. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumor-mill-granderson-cano-a-rod-and-braun-to-be-suspended-for-ped-use/652085/8 "2013-03-05T19:17:08Z")
I don’t think that meets my definition of solid. Anyway we’ll see. ---
**Author:** ![OldGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3bc359/32.png) [@OldGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumor-mill-granderson-cano-a-rod-and-braun-to-be-suspended-for-ped-use/652085/9 "2013-03-05T20:02:20Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > The cost is to the player not the team. The player loses his salary for about 1/3 of a season. So Arod would lose about 10 mil. That’s a pretty big fine. But the cost to the palyer should be $$$ as well as time missed. If a suspension can be served on the DL then why isn’t there just a monetary fine, so many games salary. It seems unfair that some players don’t actually miss time due to a suspension and others do. ---
**Author:** ![brickbacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@brickbacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brickbacon)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumor-mill-granderson-cano-a-rod-and-braun-to-be-suspended-for-ped-use/652085/10 "2013-03-05T20:16:32Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > The cost is to the player not the team. The player loses his salary for about 1/3 of a season. So Arod would lose about 10 mil. That’s a pretty big fine. Do the Yankees keep the money, or does it go to some MLB fund for charities and the like? ---
**Author:** ![Reyemile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/46a35a/32.png) [@Reyemile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reyemile)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumor-mill-granderson-cano-a-rod-and-braun-to-be-suspended-for-ped-use/652085/11 "2013-03-05T21:17:13Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > The cost is to the player not the team. The player loses his salary for about 1/3 of a season. So Arod would lose about 10 mil. That’s a pretty big fine. Yes, the fact that the punishment for cheating is only having a net worth of $290 million, rather than one of $300 million, is sure to discourage the use of performance enhancing drugs in the future. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumor-mill-granderson-cano-a-rod-and-braun-to-be-suspended-for-ped-use/652085/12 "2013-03-05T21:21:41Z")
> [@Reyemile](#): > > Yes, the fact that the punishment for cheating is only having a net worth of $290 million, rather than one of $300 million, is sure to discourage the use of performance enhancing drugs in the future. You think everyone who is caught has $290 million? For most players it is a big hit. And baseball has by far the most strict PED policy and there is talk of making it stricter. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2013, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumor-mill-granderson-cano-a-rod-and-braun-to-be-suspended-for-ped-use/652085/13 "2013-03-05T21:24:31Z")
> [@brickbacon](#): > > Do the Yankees keep the money, or does it go to some MLB fund for charities and the like? I don’t know if it works the same as fines. I know the fines go into a fund. ---
**Author:** ![Reyemile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/46a35a/32.png) [@Reyemile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reyemile)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumor-mill-granderson-cano-a-rod-and-braun-to-be-suspended-for-ped-use/652085/14 "2013-03-06T18:01:36Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > You think everyone who is caught has $290 million? For most players it is a big hit. And baseball has by far the most strict PED policy and there is talk of making it stricter. Not everyone who is caught gets fined $10 million dollars, since it’s based on yearly salary. Seriously, imagine that the punishment for robbing banks was that you weren’t allowed to rob banks any more for 6 months. I know what my new career would be. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumor-mill-granderson-cano-a-rod-and-braun-to-be-suspended-for-ped-use/652085/15 "2013-03-07T18:07:58Z")
Random testing throughout baseball nails four guys, three on the same team? A unnamed source tells me this is 100% bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumor-mill-granderson-cano-a-rod-and-braun-to-be-suspended-for-ped-use/652085/16 "2013-03-07T20:00:06Z")
> [@Reyemile](#): > > Not everyone who is caught gets fined $10 million dollars, since it’s based on yearly salary. > > Seriously, imagine that the punishment for robbing banks was that you weren’t allowed to rob banks any more for 6 months. I know what my new career would be. For someone making the minimum 1/3 of your salary is a big amount. For anyone 1/3 of your yearly salary is a big amount. You think they should be able to foreclose on their houses? I’m not sure what you think should be done. Castration? A lot of what is against the PED policy isn’t even close to being illegal. You can get nailed for things that anyone else can buy in GNC. Or get legally and easily from your doctor. Yes I know most are for much more serious things. But baseball is by far the strongest American pro sport when it comes to PED policy. 50 game suspension for the 1st offense. 100 games 2nd offense. lifetime ban 3rd offense. The first league to test for HGH and testosterone. Maybe you believe it should be a lifetime ban for the 1st offense. That seems to be the same as the death penalty for the above mentioned bank robbery. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumor-mill-granderson-cano-a-rod-and-braun-to-be-suspended-for-ped-use/652085/17 "2013-03-08T00:12:11Z")
> [@Reyemile](#): > > Not everyone who is caught gets fined $10 million dollars, since it’s based on yearly salary. > > Seriously, imagine that the punishment for robbing banks was that you weren’t allowed to rob banks any more for 6 months. I know what my new career would be. Well, there’s also public humiliation and being locked out of the Hall of Fame, judging from the voting so far. What would you have them do? ---
**Author:** ![Reyemile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/46a35a/32.png) [@Reyemile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reyemile)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumor-mill-granderson-cano-a-rod-and-braun-to-be-suspended-for-ped-use/652085/18 "2013-03-08T06:45:48Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Well, there’s also public humiliation and being locked out of the Hall of Fame, judging from the voting so far. > > What would you have them do? Sue them for every penny they earned, on the grounds that they defrauded the teams and the fans, and boot their asses to the poor house? ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2013, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumor-mill-granderson-cano-a-rod-and-braun-to-be-suspended-for-ped-use/652085/19 "2013-03-08T16:12:03Z")
There was no fraud. In many cases there were no laws broken just policy. That’s like saying all criminals should go to jail for life.