# Rumored Star Trek XI Premise (RAW Throbbing Naked Spoilers!) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 7, 2008, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumored-star-trek-xi-premise-raw-throbbing-naked-spoilers/432603 "2008-01-07T16:08:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumored-star-trek-xi-premise-raw-throbbing-naked-spoilers/432603/1 "2008-01-07T16:08:59Z")
[According to Ain’t It Cool News > [@](#): > > The character of young Kirk is a travesty. He’s the bad boy of the Academy, which is consistent in many ways, but the whole “Kobayashi” matter is overtly ridiculous. It turns Kirk into the worst scourge of all of Starfleet! At his graduation there are actual protestors outside the ceremony carrying signs stating: KIRK CHEATED! Talk about on the nose. They probably look like striking writers. > > So, Kirk is put in command of a starship under great controversy and has to prove himself to not only Starfleet, but also his new crew who are wary of him and his bad rep. While this may sound okay, the way it’s written is so ham fisted that it makes the TRANSFORMERS script read like Shakespeare. ]([Big TREK update! Footage seen! Script read! Tidbits galore!](http://www.aintitcool.com/node/35208))There’s more, and well, IMHO, none of it really makes any sense to me why they’re doing it. ---
**Author:** ![Pushkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee59a6/32.png) [@Pushkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pushkin)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumored-star-trek-xi-premise-raw-throbbing-naked-spoilers/432603/2 "2008-01-07T16:14:52Z")
Well… I like what the article says further down about the Enterprise being portrayed as a _actual_ big ship rather than a “probably is but we don’t see it” big ship. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumored-star-trek-xi-premise-raw-throbbing-naked-spoilers/432603/3 "2008-01-07T18:15:53Z")
[QUOTE=From Link] While he may have always been a skirt chaser, making him a lousy student seems like they’re trying too hard to appeal to a real young audience who has the menu to Taco Bell memorized. [/QUOTE] I just watched **Where No Man has Gone Before** last night, and Gary Mitchell particularly calls Kirk “a pile of textbooks on legs” and, as a Lieutenant, seemed to be known as a hardass instructor. Of course that was the pre-skirt chasing Kirk. One of the really good things about TOS was that Kirk was not not an idiotic muscleman. He beat Spock in chess. He could do miracles steering a ship in The Doomsday Machine. It seemed like he could do any job on that ship. If they turn him into a slacker, I’m going to be mighty pissed. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumored-star-trek-xi-premise-raw-throbbing-naked-spoilers/432603/4 "2008-01-07T18:41:52Z")
And if they take him straight from the Acadamy into the Captain’s Chair - that would be hugely wrong just in principal if not canonically. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumored-star-trek-xi-premise-raw-throbbing-naked-spoilers/432603/5 "2008-01-07T18:45:48Z")
Shouldn’t the title be something like “RAW Throbbing Ripped Shirt Spoilers?” ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumored-star-trek-xi-premise-raw-throbbing-naked-spoilers/432603/6 "2008-01-07T20:45:59Z")
> **[Roberto Orci | Producer, Writer, Additional Crew](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0649460/)** > > Known for: Star Trek, Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, Fringe I had no idea this movie was going to be written by the pair responsible for the travesties listed in the above link. I have become sad. -FrL- ---
**Author:** ![Spatial\_Rift\_47](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a8b319/32.png) [@Spatial\_Rift\_47](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spatial_Rift_47)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2008, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumored-star-trek-xi-premise-raw-throbbing-naked-spoilers/432603/7 "2008-01-08T01:42:53Z")
Goddammit, I do not want to see “Captain Matthew McConaughey of the Federation starship Enterprise.” ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2008, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumored-star-trek-xi-premise-raw-throbbing-naked-spoilers/432603/8 "2008-01-08T01:51:56Z")
I thought Finnegan was the Bad Boy of the Academy. ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2008, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumored-star-trek-xi-premise-raw-throbbing-naked-spoilers/432603/9 "2008-01-08T02:03:04Z")
He was. Kirk was serious and joyless in academy. And Kirk doesn’t chase skirts. Skirts come to him. ---
**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2008, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumored-star-trek-xi-premise-raw-throbbing-naked-spoilers/432603/10 "2008-01-08T04:41:53Z")
The mass audience – as opposed to the Melllvars of the world – don’t or won’t care whether Kirk was originally portrayed as a brown-noser in two or three bits of stray Original Series dialogue. The prevailing image of Kirk – one that has been reinforced in the films themselves – is of a swaggering ladies man who breaks the rules when he has to (which seems to be often). Portraying Kirk as a grind in school wouldn’t jibe with what people expect. I imagine that’s the prevailing concern over at Paramount. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2008, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumored-star-trek-xi-premise-raw-throbbing-naked-spoilers/432603/11 "2008-01-08T05:03:01Z")
I could see them portraying him more as brilliant but suave with the ladies and casual about the rules. A rogue modeled somewhere between Han Solo and James Bond. They could make him joyless and serious - just cavalier about the rules and uncaring of others. Then the movie could be about him learning his humanity. Something like that. You could spin that into the canon well enough, while still making a character the average audience member could like. It might even not suck if it were done exceptionally well. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2008, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumored-star-trek-xi-premise-raw-throbbing-naked-spoilers/432603/12 "2008-01-08T05:04:35Z")
[QUOTE=pepperlandgirl] He was. Kirk was serious and joyless in academy. And Kirk doesn’t chase skirts. Skirts come to him. [/QUOTE] Well, sometimes they need a nudge. Hasn’t it been rather loosely implied that Carol Marcus was the “certain blonde lab technician” that Mitchell steered in Kirk’s direction? If not in canon, at least certainly in fan lore. ---
**Author:** ![Spatial\_Rift\_47](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a8b319/32.png) [@Spatial\_Rift\_47](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spatial_Rift_47)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2008, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumored-star-trek-xi-premise-raw-throbbing-naked-spoilers/432603/13 "2008-01-08T15:18:16Z")
[QUOTE=Nonsuch] The mass audience – as opposed to the Melllvars of the world – don’t or won’t care whether Kirk was originally portrayed as a brown-noser in two or three bits of stray Original Series dialogue. The prevailing image of Kirk – one that has been reinforced in the films themselves – is of a swaggering ladies man who breaks the rules when he has to (which seems to be often). Portraying Kirk as a grind in school wouldn’t jibe with what people expect. I imagine that’s the prevailing concern over at Paramount. [/QUOTE] Unfortunately I fear your analysis of the situation is eminently logical. [/Spock] ---
**Author:** ![Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2008, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumored-star-trek-xi-premise-raw-throbbing-naked-spoilers/432603/14 "2008-01-08T19:15:16Z")
I have very low hopes for this movie, especially because JJ Abrams is involved. But these [UFO clips](http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e98_1199152423) people keep telling me about look like a viral campaign for the movie. I swear the big black ship looks like the negative of the Enterprise.