# Rumsfeld to Resign

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumsfeld-to-resign/379582>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 8, 2006, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumsfeld-to-resign/379582 "2006-11-08T17:57:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2006, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumsfeld-to-resign/379582/81 "2006-11-09T20:18:02Z")

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Naw **Kimstu** , we’re I think very much on the same page. What I was saying was that I hope discussions will be part of an effort to insure his viability as a candidate for the position and not as tit for tat partisan bickering.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2006, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumsfeld-to-resign/379582/82 "2006-11-09T20:22:10Z")

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[QUOTE=Zebra]  
John Bolton!  
Dodo **dunt dunt dunt**

da **duntdunt** dun da **dunt**

Dodo **dunt dunt dunt**

da **duntdunt** dun da **dunt**  
[/QUOTE]

Dunt dunt DUUUUUN  
Dunt dunt DUNNN DUUNNNNNN  
Dunt Dunt DUNNNNN  
DUNNNNN dundun.

(I have no idea what you were humming – was I any clearer? 😉

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**Author:** ![BJMoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@BJMoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BJMoose)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2006, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumsfeld-to-resign/379582/83 "2006-11-09T20:40:28Z")

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No.  
If Rummy’s looking for a place to retire to, I’d like to recommend a cool little “resort” in Cuba (it’s under American management, so he won’t have to worry about getting a visa.)  
Excuse me. I want to get back to my Snoopy Dance.

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2006, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumsfeld-to-resign/379582/84 "2006-11-09T21:07:59Z")

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[QUOTE=Hampshire]  
It would really make my day if a major magazine/newspaper put that in big letters on the front of their publication.  
[/QUOTE]  
[Rumsfeld: ‘My Half-Assed Job Here Is Done’](http://www.theonion.com/content/node/55077)

\<\< Donald Rumsfeld announced his resignation Wednesday afternoon, saying that he had “proudly accomplished everything [he’d] set out to bungle.” … President Bush expressed confidence that Robert Gates, his new nominee for Secretary of Defense, will be able to “fuck everything up the rest of the way.” \>\>

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2006, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumsfeld-to-resign/379582/85 "2006-11-09T21:33:25Z")

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Does Gates have to be confirmed by the new Congress? Or can he be confirmed by the old Congress, which will have one more lame-duck session this month?

Ditto re Bolton.

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2006, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumsfeld-to-resign/379582/86 "2006-11-09T21:56:21Z")

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[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]  
Ditto re Bolton.  
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[Bush just made one final push to get Bolton through](http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/001761.php) in the upcoming session. Apparently lame duck (R) Chafee will vote against him. So Bolton is done.

With budget bills to pass and new leadership to sort out, I doubt there’ll be time for the rump session to investigate, hold hearings, debate, and vote on Gates.

Of course, if the pubbies want to express their future bipartisan intentions, they might make a special effort to pass the ‘nuclear option’ in the coming week. 😉

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2006, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumsfeld-to-resign/379582/87 "2006-11-09T22:00:46Z")

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[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]  
Does Gates have to be confirmed by the new Congress? Or can he be confirmed by the old Congress, which will have one more lame-duck session this month?

Ditto re Bolton.  
[/QUOTE]

From other posters, I get the impression that Gates can (and thus will) be confirmed by the current Congress. Bolton, however, is a recess appointment, which means his appointment ends when the next Congress comes into session. So you’d have to think Walrus Man is out of a job.

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2006, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumsfeld-to-resign/379582/88 "2006-11-09T22:05:16Z")

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[QUOTE=Ludovic]  
Dunt dunt DUUUUUN  
Dunt dunt DUNNN DUUNNNNNN  
Dunt Dunt DUNNNNN  
DUNNNNN dundun.

(I have no idea what you were humming – was I any clearer? 😉  
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and another ones gone and another ones gone and another one bites the dust

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2006, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumsfeld-to-resign/379582/89 "2006-11-09T22:08:21Z")

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Of course, the President **will** ask the lamers to confirm Gates: [Bush to Ask Lame Duck Congress to Confirm Gates](http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/09/us/politics/09bushcnd.html?hp&ex=1163134800&en=a6a0da65de66e57a&ei=5094&partner=homepage).  
After waiting months to can Rumsfeld, apparently replacing him **right now** is a class one crash emergency that just can’t wait for proper diligence from congress.  
I think we know the final score on Bush’s claim to be ready to reach out to Democrats.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2006, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumsfeld-to-resign/379582/90 "2006-11-09T22:18:12Z")

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[QUOTE=Squink]  
[Bush just made one final push to get Bolton through](http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/001761.php) in the upcoming session. Apparently lame duck (R) Chafee will vote against him. So Bolton is done.  
[/quote]

What does Chaffee’s vote mean? That his nomination can’t get out of committee?

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2006, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumsfeld-to-resign/379582/91 "2006-11-09T22:23:21Z")

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[QUOTE=Zebra]  
and another ones gone and another ones gone and another one bites the dust  
[/QUOTE]

I thought everyone was doing “Jaws”.

☹

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2006, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumsfeld-to-resign/379582/92 "2006-11-09T22:35:45Z")

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[QUOTE=Marley23]  
What does Chaffee’s vote mean? That his nomination can’t get out of committee?  
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Not with a positive recommendation. I think the chair can still send it out with no recommendation, or a negative one, but that’d make it filibuster bait in an environment where the dems have no fear of the ‘nuclear option’.

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**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2006, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumsfeld-to-resign/379582/93 "2006-11-09T22:41:43Z")

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[QUOTE=Merijeek]  
I thought everyone was doing “Jaws”.

☹

-Joe  
[/QUOTE]

I was certain it was The Imperial March from _Star Wars_. Which confused me.

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2006, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumsfeld-to-resign/379582/94 "2006-11-09T22:59:11Z")

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[QUOTE=Loopydude]  
I was certain it was The Imperial March from _Star Wars_. Which confused me.  
[/QUOTE]

ya think \*\*you \*\* were confused - I thought it was _On the good ship lollipop_!

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2006, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumsfeld-to-resign/379582/95 "2006-11-09T23:01:33Z")

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% Smooooooke on the water,  
Fire in the sky %  
(I always wanted an excuse to hum that in a thread and see if anyone got it 🙂 )

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2006, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumsfeld-to-resign/379582/96 "2006-11-09T23:12:00Z")

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[QUOTE=Der Trihs]  
I simply don’t buy the “The Democrats are as bad as the Republicans !” rhetoric any more.  
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That’s the right-wing echo chamber working – they’re so corrupt they _assume_ everyone else is as bad as they are.

And yes, Jefferson is a scumbag, which is why the Dems tossed him out of his seat on the Ways and Means Committee when he refused to step down after his corruption charges first surfaced. _That_ is how you deal with unethical members, kids.

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumsfeld-to-resign/379582/97 "2006-11-10T05:53:13Z")

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(heavy sigh)  
daaaauuuuuuuuuuudunt

daaaauuuuuuuuuuudunt

daaaaaaaadunt

daaaaaaaadunt

Is Jaws

dun dun dun don da-dun, don da-dun

is the Imperial Death March  
and The Good Ship Lollipop is just silly.

dau dunt dau dunt

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumsfeld-to-resign/379582/98 "2006-11-10T05:54:46Z")

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[QUOTE=Squink]  
Of course, if the pubbies want to express their future bipartisan intentions, they might make a special effort to pass the ‘nuclear option’ in the coming week. 😉  
[/QUOTE]

My boss and I were talking about that today. Permanent majority, my ass.

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**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumsfeld-to-resign/379582/99 "2006-11-10T06:07:53Z")

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[QUOTE=Zebra]  
dun dun dun don da-dun, don da-dun

is the Imperial Death March  
[/QUOTE]

Y’know, you move that last “don” over, and I think you get The Maple Leaf Rag.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2006, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rumsfeld-to-resign/379582/100 "2006-11-10T14:56:43Z")

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[QUOTE=Loopydude]  
Y’know, you move that last “don” over, and I think you get The Maple Leaf Rag.  
[/QUOTE]  
Hmmmmmm… Let’s see if we can update Tom Lehrer’s _Vatican Rag_:

First you get screwed on Iraq  
Catch some slimeball page-mad hack  
Stay a course that’s doomed, doomed, doomed –  
Get your ass out of office broomed!

😃

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