# Rush Limbaugh defends rapists and murderers **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 17, 2011, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-defends-rapists-and-murderers/599946 "2011-10-17T19:28:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-defends-rapists-and-murderers/599946/1 "2011-10-17T19:28:46Z")
As you’ve probably heard, Obama recently decided to deploy 100 troops to central Africa in an effort to help take down the Lord’s Resistance Army, which has a well documented history of terrorizing “villagers in at least four countries with marauding bands that kill, rape, maim and kidnap with impunity.” Here’s what Rush had to say on his show today about the LRA: > [@](#): > > Now, up until today, most Americans have never heard of the combat Lord’s Resistance Army. And here we are at war with them. Have you ever heard of Lord’s Resistance Army, Dawn? How about you, Brian? Snerdley, have you? You never heard of Lord’s Resistance Army? Well, proves my contention, most Americans have never heard of it, and here we are at war with them. Lord’s Resistance Army are Christians. It means God. And this: > [@](#): > > They are fighting the Muslims in Sudan. And Obama has sent troops, United States troops, to remove them from the battlefield, which means kill them. So that’s a new war, a hundred troops to wipe out Christians in Sudan, Uganda.” And this: > [@](#): > > After suggesting that Mr. Obama “supported” violence against Coptic Christians by Muslims in Egypt, Mr. Limbaugh then read aloud what he called the “Lord’s Resistance Army objectives.” > > ``` > I have them here. “To remove dictatorship and stop the oppression of our people.” Now, again Lord’s Resistance Army is who Obama sent troops to help nations wipe out. The objectives of the Lord’s Resistance Army, what they’re trying to accomplish with their military action in these countries is the following: “To remove dictatorship and stop the oppression of our people; to fight for the immediate restoration of the competitive multiparty democracy in Uganda; to see an end to gross violation of human rights and dignity of Ugandans; to ensure the restoration of peace and security in Uganda, to ensure unity, sovereignty and economic prosperity beneficial to all Ugandans, and to bring to an end the repressive policy of deliberate marginalization of groups of people who may not agree with the L.R.A. ideology.” Those are the objectives of the group that we are fighting. > > ``` [http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/17/limbaugh-defends-lords-resistance-army/?hp](http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/17/limbaugh-defends-lords-resistance-army/?hp) Now, I think there’s some good arguments to be made about how we shouldn’t be spending tax dollars on yet another military adventure. But pretending that these guys are defenders of human rights and all that is good about Christianity isn’t one of them. But then again, in the minds of the right wing talkers these days, if Obama is for something, then it must be evil, and this is just another of many, many examples of that line of thinking ---
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-defends-rapists-and-murderers/599946/2 "2011-10-17T19:34:51Z")
Dude, > [@](#): > > Lord’s Resistance Army are Christians. It means God If you really believe Limbaugh believes any of that shit, you’re seriously deluded. What’s funny is how the (far) right in the US keeps digging, who would have thought, even five years ago, that someone would defend the LRA just to piss on the President’s shoes. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-defends-rapists-and-murderers/599946/3 "2011-10-17T19:36:38Z")
> [@joebuck20](#): > > But then again, in the minds of the right wing talkers these days, if Obama is for something, then it must be evil, and this is just another of many, many examples of that line of thinking I think you nailed it right there. I seriously doubt Limbaugh had any clue who these guys were until he heard that Obama was sending 100 troops. As soon as that happened, it didn’t matter to Rush who they were, he was going to defend them solely because Obama was agin’ 'em. Hell, I bet Rush _still_ doesn’t much about them besides the 30 seconds he spent scanning their manifesto. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-defends-rapists-and-murderers/599946/4 "2011-10-17T19:37:33Z")
They also claim that Nazis were an actual not-fake socialist party because they had socialist in their name. Strangely I never saw anyone try to defend East Germany or North Korea because they had Democratic Republic in their name, but they should have if they wanted to remain consistent. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-defends-rapists-and-murderers/599946/5 "2011-10-17T19:44:58Z")
> [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#): > > Dude, > > If you really believe Limbaugh believes any of that shit, you’re seriously deluded. What’s funny is how the (far) right in the US keeps digging, who would have thought, even five years ago, that someone would defend the LRA just to piss on the President’s shoes. I’m not deluded enough to think that he believes any of that shit, but unfortunately many of his listeners are. ---
**Author:** ![user\_hostile](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/user_hostile/32/474_2.png) [@user\_hostile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/user_hostile)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-defends-rapists-and-murderers/599946/6 "2011-10-17T19:48:43Z")
Don’t blame Rush for this. If you’ve made it a point of accepting his pronouncements at face value, you are point of fact not interested in the unvarnished truth. But that would be difficult to pull off if you’re having a rational discourse. If you point out to people what the history of the LRA is about, most would be appalled. Instead, what Rush does is whip up anger and discontent. Logic and careful analysis go out the window. Your no longer interested in the facts, you want action now! Rush is using a technique that is old as mankind itself. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-defends-rapists-and-murderers/599946/7 "2011-10-17T20:16:15Z")
> [@user\_hostile](#): > > Don’t blame Rush for this. If you’ve made it a point of accepting his pronouncements at face value, you are point of fact not interested in the unvarnished truth. But that would be difficult to pull off if you’re having a rational discourse. If you point out to people what the history of the LRA is about, most would be appalled. Instead, what Rush does is whip up anger and discontent. Logic and careful analysis go out the window. Your no longer interested in the facts, you want action now! > > Rush is using a technique that is old as mankind itself. Sorry, how does the first sentence of your post jibe with…well, all the rest of it? ---
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-defends-rapists-and-murderers/599946/8 "2011-10-17T20:17:19Z")
> [@joebuck20](#): > > I’m not deluded enough to think that he believes any of that shit, but unfortunately many of his listeners are. Certainly what Rush thinks _are_ his listeners, people who believe Jesus Christ wrote the Bible in English. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-defends-rapists-and-murderers/599946/9 "2011-10-17T20:36:06Z")
> [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#): > > What’s funny is how the (far) right in the US keeps digging, who would have thought, even five years ago, that someone would defend the LRA just to piss on the President’s shoes. Indeed. One would think that this is the point where even the likes of Rush Limbaugh would be ashamed. But the smart money is that they’re beyond shame. > [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#): > > Certainly what Rush thinks _are_ his listeners, people who believe Jesus Christ wrote the Bible in English. And that’s _King James_ English, and don’t you forget it! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-defends-rapists-and-murderers/599946/10 "2011-10-17T20:37:52Z")
> [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#): > > Certainly what Rush thinks _are_ his listeners, people who believe Jesus Christ wrote the Bible in English. Well obviously he wrote in English. He’s an American. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-defends-rapists-and-murderers/599946/11 "2011-10-17T20:40:33Z")
From [Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord%27s_Resistance_Army): > [@](#): > > The government of Uganda claims that the LRA has only 500 or 1,000 soldiers in total, but other sources estimate that there could be as many as 3,000 soldiers, along with about 1,500 women and children.[1] The bulk of the soldiers fighting for the LRA are children. Obama is sending our soldiers to attack _poor black children_? Can you imagine the outcry if a _white_ President were to declare war on a bunch of poor black kids? Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would be camped out in front of the White House demanding his head on a pike! But no, when it’s a BLACK LIBERAL doing it— sending armed soldiers to slaughter _defenseless children_— it’s just fine, nothing to see here! (Is another bullshit angle I’m a bit surprised Rush didn’t pounce on) ---
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-defends-rapists-and-murderers/599946/12 "2011-10-17T20:44:45Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Obama is sending our soldiers to attack _poor black children_? Can you imagine the outcry if a _white_ President were to declare war on a bunch of poor black kids? Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would be camped out in front of the White House demanding his head on a pike! But no, when it’s a BLACK LIBERAL doing it— sending armed soldiers to slaughter _defenseless children_— it’s just fine, nothing to see here! > > (Is another bullshit angle I’m a bit surprised Rush didn’t pounce on) I was tempted to post the same earlier. It would make more “sense” though it would be obvious partisanship, but as it has a “tu quoque” vibe, it would be nothing out of the extraordinary for US politics. Actually defending the LRA sounds completely crazy or just Limbaugh trying to get some attention and being very aware of what he does. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-defends-rapists-and-murderers/599946/13 "2011-10-17T20:45:13Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Indeed. One would think that this is the point where even the likes of Rush Limbaugh would be ashamed. But the smart money is that they’re beyond shame. I’ve said it many times on this board, and I’ll say it again. These assholes would take a dump on the American flag and wipe their asses with the Constitution if they thought it would help them score some points about how evil Obama is. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-defends-rapists-and-murderers/599946/14 "2011-10-17T20:52:38Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Indeed. One would think that this is the point where even the likes of Rush Limbaugh would be ashamed. But the smart money is that they’re beyond shame. > And that’s _King James_ English, and don’t you forget it! 😉 _Saint_ James, according to a former mother-in-law of mine. ---
**Author:** ![user\_hostile](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/user_hostile/32/474_2.png) [@user\_hostile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/user_hostile)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-defends-rapists-and-murderers/599946/15 "2011-10-17T20:59:52Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Sorry, how does the first sentence of your post jibe with…well, all the rest of it? My point is that Rush can lie, distort, manipulate all he wants within the bounds of free speech. It’s his right. We, OTOH, have to make a choice in whether we accept fully, partially, or none of Rush’s version of events. It’s never been his responsibility–its always been ours. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-defends-rapists-and-murderers/599946/16 "2011-10-17T21:17:59Z")
> [@user\_hostile](#): > > My point is that Rush can lie, distort, manipulate all he wants within the bounds of free speech. It’s his right. Oh, christ, not the “it’s legal so it’s okay” canard. I’m skeptical about whether he can lie, but that’s a fine line so whatever. He certainly is free to spout bullshit all he wants without fear of being arrested. He doesn’t get to be free from folks thinking he’s a shitstain for pandering to the people who love to eat his bullshit up. If enough people don’t like his bullshit, his show may get canceled. Happened to Imus. So yes, it is his fault he’s choosing to say bullshit, in the sense that the consequences for saying bullshit are on him. Fortunately for him, right now the primary consequence is a boatload of money. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-defends-rapists-and-murderers/599946/17 "2011-10-17T21:20:49Z")
> [@user\_hostile](#): > > My point is that Rush can lie, distort, manipulate all he wants within the bounds of free speech. It’s his right. Doesn’t mean the rest of us can’t call him a douche canoe. That’s OUR right. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-defends-rapists-and-murderers/599946/18 "2011-10-17T21:26:53Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > I’m skeptical about whether he can lie, but that’s a fine line so whatever. You’re an idiot. Rush can lie very, very well. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-defends-rapists-and-murderers/599946/19 "2011-10-17T21:28:53Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > You’re an idiot. > Rush can lie very, very well. I meant whether it’s legal for him to lie, seeing as you can sue for slander. But it’s tricky as hell to prove that, especially for public figures, so it’s not worth quibbling over. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-defends-rapists-and-murderers/599946/20 "2011-10-17T21:45:34Z")
Certainly not worth quibbling over–it was just an excuse to say “Rush can lie very, very well.” 😃 (I got your overall point, but I just couldn’t resist the out-of-context phrase “I’m skeptical about whether he can lie”) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-defends-rapists-and-murderers/599946.md?page=2)