# Rush Limbaugh defends rapists and murderers

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 17, 2011, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-defends-rapists-and-murderers/599946 "2011-10-17T19:28:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-defends-rapists-and-murderers/599946/41 "2011-10-18T02:33:50Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> They also claim that Nazis were an actual not-fake socialist party because they had socialist in their name. Strangely I never saw anyone try to defend East Germany or North Korea because they had Democratic Republic in their name, but they should have if they wanted to remain consistent.

That’s just proof of what happens when Democrats run Republics.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-defends-rapists-and-murderers/599946/42 "2011-10-18T03:04:58Z")

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It’s ok. Rush is a rapist and a murderer, so he knows whereof he speaks.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-defends-rapists-and-murderers/599946/43 "2011-10-18T03:07:28Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> It’s ok. Rush is a rapist and a murderer, so he knows whereof he speaks.

I thought that was Glenn Beck?

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**Author:** ![user\_hostile](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/user_hostile/32/474_2.png) [@user\_hostile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/user_hostile)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-defends-rapists-and-murderers/599946/44 "2011-10-18T03:11:08Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> That’s ridiculous. Don’t blame him for something he says? Blame the people who listen to him? What’s wrong with blaming both, but a special blame on him since he’s the one who instigated the whole thing?
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> Sure, he’s not the first person to spread lies and misinformation. So what? This is a particular case that is being called out, and Rush is the source.

The devil made me do it?

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-defends-rapists-and-murderers/599946/45 "2011-10-18T03:12:01Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> I thought that was Glenn Beck?

I heard they were co-conspirators.

And maybe lovers.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-defends-rapists-and-murderers/599946/46 "2011-10-18T03:14:18Z")

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Well they _haven’t_ taken the trouble to deny any of it.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-defends-rapists-and-murderers/599946/47 "2011-10-18T03:33:22Z")

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Real name is van der Beeck. Preliminary reports indicate that prints from wooden shoes may very well have been found at the crime scene. Just sayin’ what everybody’s thinking, is all.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-defends-rapists-and-murderers/599946/48 "2011-10-18T04:00:05Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> I heard they were co-conspirators.
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> And maybe lovers.

Rush fucked the corpse, so it technically wasn’t rape.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-defends-rapists-and-murderers/599946/49 "2011-10-18T05:57:54Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> Oh, christ, not the “it’s legal so it’s okay” canard.

Right-wing hypocrites delight to pretend they are the upholders of Godliness and Morality, but their views show just the opposite. Greedy bankers foisted bad mortgages on naive citizens? “Serves the stupid bastards right. My fifth-grade kid wouldn’t have fallen for that!” Make it hard for poor voters to register? “They can’t even afford a taxi, and they want to elect MY president? Fuck 'em.” Absolute disregard for facts on TV News? “Hey, you don’t support the First Amendment? And you’re so stupid you don’t know corporations are people?”

> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> I’m actually going to bet (in the lame sense that involves no actual money) that Limbaugh backs this one out somehow; too many people who he (and his audience) would grant credit to (mainly evangelical Christian missionaries) can speak with some authority about what horrible people the LRA are. Witness Qin’s reaction in the Great Debates thread.

Since no actual money is involved, I’ll take the bet. 🆒 O’Reilly hasn’t retracted “$16 muffins” which turned out to be $16 for a 4-item Continental breakfast. Is Qin a Limbaugh fan? I thought he was an intelligent 9th-grader, much more knowledgeable than Limbaugh’s target audience.

Disclaimer: I know little about Limbaughism, having watched a total of one Limbaugh show in my life, 16 years ago or so. I still remember the theme of that show however. Rush had found a particularly unflattering photo of Cabinet member Donna Shalala; he put it on camera once every five minutes, expecting his viewers to draw a connection between her ugliness and Clinton’s policies.

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**Author:** ![PigArcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bcef8e/32.png) [@PigArcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PigArcher)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-defends-rapists-and-murderers/599946/50 "2011-10-18T22:08:54Z")

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Has Rush (or O’Reilly for that matter) ever retracted anything ever? Their whole agenda is to present 100% spin that paints their opponents in a negative light. They find a useful drum and bang on it until it’s no longer useful. Then they drop it without a word. If there’s significant backlash to defending the LRA he might make some rationalized statement that he’s still right and Obama’s still bad even if he didn’t get the facts 100% right and the people criticizing him for it are just being ridiculous. At any rate, the damage is done. People who want to believe that Obama’s anti-christian have had their prejudice confirmed, and will not hesitate to include “that time he sent our troops to help mooslims kill christians” in their litany of his crimes without bothering to remember any of the details.

Just read the transcript:

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> RUSH: – no question. How do you feel about the news? I want to go back, your extensive military background, how do you react to the news that Obama has dispatched a hundred soldiers to fight radical Christians in Africa?
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> CALLER: That’s amazing. I can’t believe he’s doing that.
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> RUSH: You can’t?

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**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-defends-rapists-and-murderers/599946/51 "2011-10-18T22:18:06Z")

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[‘‘Breaking God’s commands’’: the destruction of childhood by the Lord’s Resistance Army](http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset/AFR59/001/1997/en/ec192971-ea53-11dd-965c-b55c1122d73f/afr590011997en.html)  
Amnnesty International  
Index Number: AFR 59/001/1997  
Date Published: 17 September 1997

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> It is estimated that since 1995 between five and eight thousand children, most from the Acholi people, have been abducted by the LRA and forced to become child soldiers. Taking children is a systematic choice: most of those abducted are between 13 and 16 years old. Younger children are generally not strong enough to carry weapons or heavy loads while older children are less malleable to the will of their abductors. Boys outnumber girls.  
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> Children are beaten, murdered and forced to become combatants. Girls are raped and used as sexual slaves by more senior soldiers. But in addition, becoming an involuntary part of the LRA means being made to abuse others. The killers of attempted escapees, captured government soldiers and civilians are themselves abused children. They are being abused by being forced to commit human rights abuses. This is deliberate. The children are often traumatized by what they have done and, believing that they are now outcasts, they become bound to the LRA.

I can see why Mr. Limbaugh would defend these fine Christian soldiers.

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-defends-rapists-and-murderers/599946/52 "2011-10-19T01:29:32Z")

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> [@kenetic](#):
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> Has Rush (or O’Reilly for that matter) ever retracted anything ever?

Well, he apologized after making fun of Michael J. Fox’s Parkinsons disease, but even that was kind of half-assed- along the lines of “I’m sorry, but I can’t believe people were so offended.”

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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-defends-rapists-and-murderers/599946/53 "2011-10-19T01:35:08Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> They also claim that Nazis were an actual not-fake socialist party because they had socialist in their name. Strangely I never saw anyone try to defend East Germany or North Korea because they had Democratic Republic in their name, but they should have if they wanted to remain consistent.

And the Nazis actually instituted socialistic policies even if not as consistently or fully as the Commies.

But on the OP, calling this Satan-inspired death cult “Christian” cheapens its meaning and disgraces it.

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**Author:** ![PigArcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bcef8e/32.png) [@PigArcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PigArcher)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-defends-rapists-and-murderers/599946/54 "2011-10-19T01:37:45Z")

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> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> But on the OP, calling this Satan-inspired death cult “Christian” cheapens its meaning and disgraces it.

Cite for them being Satan-inspired?

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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-defends-rapists-and-murderers/599946/55 "2011-10-19T01:50:12Z")

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> [@kenetic](#):
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> Cite for them being Satan-inspired?

I was being a bit rhetorical here but any ideology no matter what it prattles that practices and approves of murder, rape, and crimes against humanity are inspired in spirit by Satan.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-defends-rapists-and-murderers/599946/56 "2011-10-19T01:59:01Z")

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> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> I was being a bit rhetorical here but any ideology no matter what it prattles that practices and approves of murder, rape, and crimes against humanity are inspired in spirit by Satan.

Never read the Bible, huh?

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**Author:** ![PigArcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bcef8e/32.png) [@PigArcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PigArcher)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-defends-rapists-and-murderers/599946/57 "2011-10-19T02:08:16Z")

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> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> I was being a bit rhetorical here but any ideology no matter what it prattles that practices and approves of murder, rape, and crimes against humanity are inspired in spirit by Satan.

So what you’re saying is that No True Christian would do these things?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-defends-rapists-and-murderers/599946/58 "2011-10-19T02:32:00Z")

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I guess now we have to research whether the LRA serves their soldiers oatmeal with sugar for breakfast…

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**Author:** ![straight\_man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/straight_man/32/3027_2.png) [@straight\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/straight_man)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-defends-rapists-and-murderers/599946/59 "2011-10-19T03:59:52Z")

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> [@kenetic](#):
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> So what you’re saying is that No True Christian would do these things?

So what you’re saying is that Satan never influences Christians?

On a less rhetorical note, it’s worth remembering that Christians do often accuse the LRA of heterodoxy (heck, it’s in the first sentence of the of the Wiki), which would hopefully make your average right-wing American Christian reluctant to defend the LRA…

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**Author:** ![PigArcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bcef8e/32.png) [@PigArcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PigArcher)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-defends-rapists-and-murderers/599946/60 "2011-10-19T04:03:52Z")

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> [@straight\_man](#):
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> So what you’re saying is that Satan never influences Christians?

No, I’d never say that because I don’t believe in Satan.

But at any rate, this is a bit of a hijack from the thread topic: That Limbaugh portrayed Obama as being anti-christian for sending military advisers to help fight these guys.

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