# Rush Limbaugh "dreams of" riots in Denver

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 30, 2008, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-dreams-of-riots-in-denver/447454 "2008-04-30T12:56:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-dreams-of-riots-in-denver/447454/21 "2008-04-30T15:19:05Z")

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Ah, here it is: [Operation Chaos.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rush_Limbaugh_Show#Operation_Chaos)

> [@](#):
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> In late February 2008, Limbaugh announced Operation Chaos, a political call to action with the initial plan to have voters of the Republican Party temporarily cross over to vote Democrat and vote for Hillary Clinton, who at the time was in the midst of losing eleven straight primary contests to Barack Obama. The goal was to have the campaigns of Clinton and Obama fight over the Democratic Party nomination for as long as possible and potentially force a brokered 2008 Democratic National Convention. The previous month, Markos Moulitsas of Daily Kos suggested a similar idea to have Democrats cross over to vote for Mitt Romney in Michigan in order to lengthen the Republican primary, in which Mike Huckabee and eventual presumptive nominee John McCain were seen by Moulitsas as being in the lead. [4]
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> On March 27, 2008, Limbaugh said that “The dream end of this [of Operation Chaos] is that this keeps up to the Convention, and that we have a recreation of Chicago 1968 with burning cars, protests, fire, and literal riots and all of that, that is the objective here [of Operation Chaos].” [5]

Riots in Denver?

Has there **ever** been a riot in Denver?

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**Author:** ![vibrotronica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@vibrotronica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vibrotronica)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-dreams-of-riots-in-denver/447454/22 "2008-04-30T15:26:42Z")

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The Right is now openly calling for political violence against liberals. Will John McCain be asked to denounce that? Will we have 24-7 cable television repeats of Rush’s call to bash in the heads of liberals? Will groups of august pundits be assembled on every news outfit in the country to discuss, in great detail, all of the political implications, both real and imagined, of John McCain’s failure to denounce this prominent Right-winger’s call for political violence against their fellow Americans?

No, we won’t. Because the fucking right wing owns the fucking media in this country.

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**Author:** ![ASAKMOTSD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@ASAKMOTSD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASAKMOTSD)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-dreams-of-riots-in-denver/447454/23 "2008-04-30T15:29:22Z")

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Sounds like a job for Homeland Security…

(Please wait, Mr. Limbaugh, someone will be right with you.)

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-dreams-of-riots-in-denver/447454/24 "2008-04-30T15:29:45Z")

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[QUOTE=vibrotronica]  
The Right is now openly calling for political violence against liberals. Will John McCain be asked to denounce that? Will we have 24-7 cable television repeats of Rush’s call to bash in the heads of liberals? Will groups of august pundits be assembled on every news outfit in the country to discuss, in great detail, all of the political implications, both real and imagined, of John McCain’s failure to denounce this prominent Right-winger’s call for political violence against their fellow Americans?

No, we won’t. Because the fucking right wing owns the fucking media in this country.  
[/QUOTE]

Well, technically he’s calling for political violence _by_ liberals. He didn’t specify his preferred target(s), and I think it’s safe to assume that the likely victims of a riot are “all the people in the area”.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-dreams-of-riots-in-denver/447454/25 "2008-04-30T15:32:49Z")

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> [@Limbaugh](#):
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> We don’t burn our cars. We don’t burn down our houses. We don’t kill our children. We don’t do half the things the American left does.

WTF? Did I miss a memo? When were we supposed to kill our children and burn our houses down? I’m going to have to start opening those DNC emails.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-dreams-of-riots-in-denver/447454/26 "2008-04-30T15:34:22Z")

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Sorry, **BG** - it’s hard to keep track of which quotes you are falsifying.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-dreams-of-riots-in-denver/447454/27 "2008-04-30T15:35:13Z")

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[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]  
WTF? Did I miss a memo? When were we supposed to kill our children and burn our houses down? I’m going to have to start opening those DNC emails.  
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I thought we were supposed to _abort_ all our children. What kind of liberal has real live kids to kill?

Anyway, the house-burning program is on hiatus until the price of gasoline goes down.

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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-dreams-of-riots-in-denver/447454/28 "2008-04-30T15:38:35Z")

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[QUOTE=Baldwin]  
Who’s a bigger asshole, Limbaugh or Sharpton? I don’t even want to dwell on that too long.  
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Sharpton, because he isn’t a senile addict. Rush can just blame it on the drugs and Alzheimers.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-dreams-of-riots-in-denver/447454/29 "2008-04-30T15:39:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Shodan]  
Sorry, **BG** - it’s hard to keep track of which quotes you are falsifying.

Regards,  
Shodan  
[/QUOTE]

Are you being deliberately obtuse? You can’t be this thick for real. This must be some kind of performance art.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-dreams-of-riots-in-denver/447454/30 "2008-04-30T15:39:41Z")

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[QUOTE=Shodan]  
Sorry, **BG** - it’s hard to keep track of which quotes you are falsifying.

Regards,  
Shodan  
[/QUOTE]

None in this thread so far, which should simplify matters even for you.

If all conservatives were as clueless and stupid as you, America would have fewer problems. Unfortunately, for every 100,000 **Shodans** there might be one Karl Rove, and that’s enough to do wicked damage.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-dreams-of-riots-in-denver/447454/31 "2008-04-30T15:42:18Z")

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Even expressing a wish for the opposition to erupt in violence and hurt innocent people is pretty depraved. Good to know that even some of his own audience was able to recognize that.

It’s also a ludicrous pipe dream. No matter how pissed Obama supporters became, they would not go out into the streets on a violent rampage. The delegates who go to conventions are long time party loyalists and half of them are senior citizens. It’s not going to be like the 60’s.

Its not even going to go to the convention anyway

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-dreams-of-riots-in-denver/447454/32 "2008-04-30T15:45:53Z")

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[QUOTE=Really Not All That Bright]  
Well, technically he’s calling for political violence _by_ liberals.  
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While simultaneously wink-wink suggesting that Pub provocateurs might do well to gather in Denver and egg it on; not in so many words, but that’s not an unreasonable inference under the circumstances, considering that the whole strategy of this “Operation Chaos” is for Pubs to vote in the Dem primaries and keep the divisiveness alive as long as possible right up to the convention. Hence the Becket analogy in the OP.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-dreams-of-riots-in-denver/447454/33 "2008-04-30T15:49:36Z")

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[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]  
While simultaneously wink-wink suggesting that Pub provocateurs might do well to gather in Denver and egg it on  
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I, for one, am all in favor of rioting taking place if Rush Limbaugh is standing there inciting it, on the off chance he’ll be hit by a stray Molotov cocktail.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-dreams-of-riots-in-denver/447454/34 "2008-04-30T15:57:32Z")

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[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]

\< . . . \>

“Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?!”  
[/QUOTE]  
I must protest this scurrilous attempt to link Limbaugh and [Henry II](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_II_of_England#Murder_of_Thomas_Becket)!!!

It’s almost certain that even though Thomas a Becket exasperated Henry beyond endurance, Henry would not want Thomas assassinated. Not only had they once been the best of friends — and those who knew Henry said that he never completely forgot a friendship — but Henry was well aware that the political consequences of appearing complicit in the murder would be disastrous (which they were). In fact, as soon as Henry calmed down from the outburst quoted above, he issued orders to apprehend the four men who had disappeared from the court.

Limbaugh, on the other hand, appears to know _exactly_ what he’s doing.

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**Author:** ![Necros](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/necros/32/11086_2.png) [@Necros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Necros)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-dreams-of-riots-in-denver/447454/35 "2008-04-30T15:59:18Z")

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[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]  
Riots in Denver?  
Has there **ever** been a riot in Denver?  
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Yeah, they happen from time to time, mainly over sports team victories. :rolleyes: I can’t remember if there was one the last time the Avs won the Stanley Cup. Otherwise, the last one I know about is this one: [http://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WM2YYY](http://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WM2YYY)

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-dreams-of-riots-in-denver/447454/36 "2008-04-30T16:09:12Z")

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Senator Ken Salazar (D-CO) [is urging KOA radio to reprimand Limbaugh.](http://www.denverpost.com/search/ci_9068836)

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**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-dreams-of-riots-in-denver/447454/37 "2008-04-30T16:42:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]  
WTF? Did I miss a memo? When were we supposed to kill our children and burn our houses down? I’m going to have to start opening those DNC emails.  
[/QUOTE]

I find it funny that the people who are most pro-Iraq war ideologically accuse the other side of “killing our children”, personally.

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**Author:** ![Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sophistry_and_Illusion)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-dreams-of-riots-in-denver/447454/38 "2008-04-30T16:43:31Z")

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[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]  
Senator Ken Salazar (D-CO) [is urging KOA radio to reprimand Limbaugh.](http://www.denverpost.com/search/ci_9068836)  
[/QUOTE]

[Kampgrounds of American?](http://www.koa.com/) Jesus, is everybody required to take a position on every single issue these days?

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**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-dreams-of-riots-in-denver/447454/39 "2008-04-30T16:43:40Z")

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[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]  
Even expressing a wish for the opposition to erupt in violence and hurt innocent people is pretty depraved.  
[/QUOTE]

Hear! Hear!

I’ll go one step further: The whole concept, from the name, right on down, of Operation Chaos has always left a bad smell. I’ve argued that crossing party lines to vote in primaries for the candidate that you think is the weakest is a long-standing tactic in states with open primaries, and will again. That doesn’t change that I think it’s still pretty lousy. Gloating about it just makes it worse.

Now, taking credit for the current mess in the Democratic primary process and then gloating about the possibility of violence, because of that same mess, is worse than lousy, and goes full-on into depravity.

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**Author:** ![Spit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/76d3ee/32.png) [@Spit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spit)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-dreams-of-riots-in-denver/447454/40 "2008-04-30T17:27:04Z")

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And [from the left side of things](http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/2008/04/air-americas-roseanne-barr-wants-1968.html):

> [@](#):
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> …there is a Democratic Convention in Denver in just a short time and we should a bunch of us go there and repeat the Democratic Convention from Chicago. Like, let’s just cause a bunch of trouble. Let’s wrest back our government from what, six or seven you know guys like McCain and Romney and Bush from the top. Let’s just go take it. It’s ours. Nobody gives it to you, you just go take it. Let’s meet in Denver and let’s do it…And then let’s get on a bus, whatever let’s meet up in Denver. I mean seriously, I’m willing to do it. I’ll even put some of my own money into it because I’m like committed.

Guy from the right says “The left will start riots”, and the chick from the left says “Let’s start riots”…If I were on the outside looking in, I wouldn’t think too highly of the left.

_sigh_

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