# Rush Limbaugh "dreams of" riots in Denver **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 30, 2008, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-dreams-of-riots-in-denver/447454 "2008-04-30T12:56:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-dreams-of-riots-in-denver/447454/61 "2008-04-30T21:05:49Z")
I have a feeling that you would, Madame MeToo. ---
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-dreams-of-riots-in-denver/447454/62 "2008-04-30T21:51:21Z")
[QUOTE=Rush] We don’t burn our cars. We don’t burn down our houses. We don’t kill our children. We don’t do half the things the American left does. [/QUOTE] Yeah, but you seem to enjoy [blowing up _government_ buildings and killing _other peoples’_ children.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh) ---
**Author:** ![rowrrbazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rowrrbazzle/32/414_2.png) [@rowrrbazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rowrrbazzle)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-dreams-of-riots-in-denver/447454/63 "2008-04-30T22:02:14Z")
Dear idiot OP and other idiot leftists in this thread, this may be news to you, but dreaming something doesn’t make it happen. Remember that when you enter second grade. [QUOTE=Blank Slate] Limbaughs popularity used to annoy the hell out of me, but then I realized, hey, mental defectives need entertainment too. [/QUOTE] Like the OP. And others who take this way too seriously. ---
**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-dreams-of-riots-in-denver/447454/64 "2008-04-30T22:44:28Z")
[QUOTE=F. U. Shakespeare] Yeah, but you seem to enjoy [blowing up _government_ buildings and killing _other peoples’_ children.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh) [/QUOTE] Jesus fucking Christ, did Rush really say what you quoted there? How can anyone tolerate that utter horseshit? ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-dreams-of-riots-in-denver/447454/65 "2008-04-30T22:57:21Z")
A few thoughts: 1. While Rush and his defenders are saying he’s only “dreaming” of riots, not encouraging them, he does seem to have explicitly called for people to cast ballots in an attempt to sabotage the Democratic nominating process and lead to a brokered convention. If that should lead to violence, he bears some direct responsiblity. 2. The quotes from the Wikipedia link > [@](#): > > In late February 2008, Limbaugh announced Operation Chaos, a political call to action… > > On March 27, 2008, Limbaugh said that “The dream end of this [of Operation Chaos] is that this keeps up to the Convention, and that we have a recreation of Chicago 1968 with burning cars, protests, fire, and literal riots and all of that, that is the objective here [of Operation Chaos].” don’t leave much wiggle room. If “dreaming” gets him off the hook, how do you excuse “objective”. 1. Even at the most impossibly charitable reading of his comments, he is saying that he wishes pain, and possible death, on people simply because he disagrees with them politically. That is despicable. I don’t know how anyone can defend him in this matter. ---
**Author:** ![Algher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Algher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algher)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-dreams-of-riots-in-denver/447454/66 "2008-04-30T23:19:35Z")
[QUOTE=Robot Arm] A few thoughts: 1. While Rush and his defenders are saying he’s only “dreaming” of riots, not encouraging them, he does seem to have explicitly called for people to cast ballots in an attempt to sabotage the Democratic nominating process and lead to a brokered convention. If that should lead to violence, he bears some direct responsiblity. 2. The quotes from the Wikipedia linkdon’t leave much wiggle room. If “dreaming” gets him off the hook, how do you excuse “objective”. 3. Even at the most impossibly charitable reading of his comments, he is saying that he wishes pain, and possible death, on people simply because he disagrees with them politically. That is despicable. I don’t know how anyone can defend him in this matter. [/QUOTE] First - Rush is a blowhard entertainer who makes money by bringing in the listeners. It would not surprise me to find out that he believes at best 30% of what he says. Second - I don’t listen to him (having a job and all that). I can’t stand AM talk radio - too many commecials. Now - what I “hear” Rush saying in the transcript posted is that he is hoping that the Democrats are so jacked up by the time of the convention that they get another black eye ala '68. I honestly do not think that he wants death - he wants the worst of the extreme fringes of the Democrats to come out and play. He then hopes that the Democrats can once again be painted with the broard brush of that activity. Remember, those riots helped the Republicans for YEARS. ---
**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-dreams-of-riots-in-denver/447454/67 "2008-04-30T23:57:45Z")
I think Rush doesn’t understand the change in the Left since then. Back then they rioted. Today they would go out there, do a drum circle and have some large puppets. ---
**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2008, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-dreams-of-riots-in-denver/447454/68 "2008-05-01T00:19:58Z")
Can we stop with the fucking brushes the size of Kansas? People can be anywhere on the political spectrum and not be represented by the most extreme, criminal or insane members of their group. The Left is no more defined by the actions of ELF than the Right is defined by the actions of McVeigh. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2008, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-dreams-of-riots-in-denver/447454/69 "2008-05-01T01:20:46Z")
[QUOTE=Ogre] Jesus, **Shodan**. You misinterpreted the quote in the OP, made a fool of yourself, and you refuse to acknowledge it? I don’t have a problem with you. This board needs a few conservative voices. Keeps things honest and interesting. But you are wrong. Be a man. Just fucking admit it, apologize, and MOVE ON. Regards, Ogre [/QUOTE] No, sorry - **BrainGlutton** has already admitted putting words in Limbaugh’s mouth, and the quote in the OP seems a bit too cut up to be definitive. And when asked for a cite, he simply threw Limbaugh’s website up and wanted me to do his research for him. I think the quote’s been doctored, in the sense of leaving out a bunch of stuff. I think **Algher** is a lot closer to correct than **BG**. Sharpton is the one threatening “street action”, and Rush is hoping Sharpton is as good as his word. Because more “street action” at the Democratic convention will make the Democrats look stupid and lead to the defeat of Democratic candidates. But not because Limbaugh is calling for riots, but because Sharpton is, along with all the other fringe elements of the Loony Left. And another tactic of the Loony Left is willfully to misinterpret. It happens. If Wright had said the same thing, the Usual Suspects would be falling all over each other excusing it. SOP. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2008, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-dreams-of-riots-in-denver/447454/70 "2008-05-01T01:31:10Z")
[QUOTE=vibrotronica] The Right is now openly calling for political violence against liberals. [/QUOTE] Talk about lack of reading comprehension. Will **vibrotronica** be back to retract this comment? ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2008, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-dreams-of-riots-in-denver/447454/71 "2008-05-01T01:34:29Z")
[QUOTE=Shodan] And another tactic of the Loony Left is willfully to misinterpret. It happens. If Wright had said the same thing, the Usual Suspects would be falling all over each other excusing it. [/QUOTE] :dubious: You _really_ are a complete fucking idiot, aren’t you? Regards, Frank ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2008, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-dreams-of-riots-in-denver/447454/72 "2008-05-01T01:43:36Z")
[QUOTE=Euphonious Polemic] Are you being deliberately obtuse? You can’t be this thick for real. This must be some kind of performance art. [/QUOTE] Naw, it’s just that certain protected groups are allowed to troll all they want. As long as they don’t actually confess, they’re fine. It’s an SMDB tradition. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2008, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-dreams-of-riots-in-denver/447454/73 "2008-05-01T01:54:21Z")
[QUOTE=Merijeek] Naw, it’s just that certain protected groups are allowed to troll all they want. [/QUOTE] I suppose if conservatives are a kind of endangered species on this board, that makes sense. It is still illegal to kill a retarded bald eagle, after all. ETA: Who knew the bald eagle is no longer on the ESA? For accuracy sake, replace my snark with grizzly bear. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2008, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-dreams-of-riots-in-denver/447454/74 "2008-05-01T02:43:24Z")
This is quite interesting. Sharpton predicts (i.e., incites) violence in the streets. Limbaugh says good on ya, act like asses…it’ll pay off big time for us pubbies. Everyone here then blasts Limbaugh and says nary a peep about Sharpton. What’s up with that? ---
**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2008, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-dreams-of-riots-in-denver/447454/75 "2008-05-01T02:49:38Z")
To be honest, I have lower expectations of Sharpton than I do of Limbaugh. There had been times when Limbaugh actually appeared to be reasonable. FTM, I know more people who have listened to Limbaugh. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2008, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-dreams-of-riots-in-denver/447454/76 "2008-05-01T02:52:29Z")
[QUOTE=Starving Artist] Sharpton predicts (i.e., incites) violence in the streets. Limbaugh says good on ya, act like asses…it’ll pay off big time for us pubbies. [/QUOTE] Please demonstrate that Limbaugh’s cite of Sharpton was accurate. After that, if applicable, you can demonstrate that “trouble” = “violence in the streets”. Have fun storming the castle! ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2008, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-dreams-of-riots-in-denver/447454/77 "2008-05-01T02:59:08Z")
[QUOTE=Starving Artist] Sharpton **predicts** (i.e., incites)… [/QUOTE] (Bolding mine.) You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2008, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-dreams-of-riots-in-denver/447454/78 "2008-05-01T03:06:07Z")
I think it’s used in the same manner as: **Starving Artist** posts (i.e. trolls)… ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2008, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-dreams-of-riots-in-denver/447454/79 "2008-05-01T03:26:03Z")
[QUOTE=Robot Arm] (Bolding mine.) You keep using that word. [/QUOTE] Actually, I’ve only used it once. 😉 But having said that, is there some question as to the veracity of Sharpton’s comment? I admit I haven’t scrutinized every word of this thread, but the impression I’ve gotten so far is that Sharpton said it (or at least implied it) and Limbaugh essentially cheered it on. Given Sharpton’s history as a fiery race-baiting rabble-rouser, such a comment hardly seems out of character for him. ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2008, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-dreams-of-riots-in-denver/447454/80 "2008-05-01T03:26:13Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > While simultaneously wink-wink suggesting that Pub provocateurs might do well to gather in Denver and egg it on Sounds pretty blatant to me. If there really is a riot in Denver (which I doubt), I’ll be one person asking for Rush to get hauled in on inciting violence. > [@Liberal](#): > > Well, she does hate the national anthem. I mean, you gotta admit it quacks like a duck. There’s a difference between _being in_ the left and _representing_ the left. For example, it’s hard to argue that I’m anything but a left-winger, but I doubt anyone would say that I _represent_ the left. As for **Shodan** , I think we can write him off as being off in loony-land with Rush and ignore his absurd arguments in this and other threads altogether. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-dreams-of-riots-in-denver/447454.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-dreams-of-riots-in-denver/447454.md?page=5)