# Rush Limbaugh has a Dan rather moment.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 25, 2009, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-has-a-dan-rather-moment/515038 "2009-10-25T05:49:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-has-a-dan-rather-moment/515038/1 "2009-10-25T05:49:25Z")

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> **[Shocker for conservatives: Obama may not hate the Constitution - Salon.com](https://www.salon.com/2009/10/23/obama_thesis/)**
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> The right, including Rush Limbaugh, falls for a hoax about the president's college thesis

[http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/93122?fp=1](http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/93122?fp=1)

On friday, Rush Limbaugh read some shocking excerpts from Obama’s senior thesis at Columbia – a thesis which had been heretofore hidden by Obama and the White House, but which had now been uncovered by Joe Klein. The thesis, entitled _Aristocracy Revisted_ contained criticism of the “so-called Founders” of the United States and called the Constitution “hypocritical.”

Here’s an excerpt that Limbaugh read on the air:

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> [T]he Constitution allows for many things, but what it does not allow is the most revealing. The so-called Founders did not allow for economic freedom. While political freedom is supposedly a cornerstone of the document, the distribution of wealth is not even mentioned. While many believed that the new Constitution gave them liberty, it instead fitted them with the shackles of hypocrisy.

Limbaugh, in a full bore fit of righteous indignation called Obama a “little boy” (which I guess shows marginal progress from when Limbaugh called Obama a [“little black man-child”](http://mediamatters.org/research/200808200009) last year) and said “he still shares these feelings” (with whom, I have no idea).

All well and good, but unforunately for Rush, the thesis was bogus. It was written as a satirical piece on a conservative blog, passed around in the conservative tard-o-verse (including fox news which posted it as fact on its website) until Rush struck at it like at a fat trout.

Here’s the best part, Limbaugh was made aware during the course of the broadcast that the thesis was fake, but still defended it by saying “I know Obama thinks it.”

That’s terrific. It is permissable to make any accusation about what anybody has said as long as “you know they think it.”

I guess that means it’s ok to say that Rush Limbugh has admitted to loving rough sex with truck drivers because even if he never said it, I know he thinks it.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-has-a-dan-rather-moment/515038/2 "2009-10-25T06:07:19Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Here’s the best part, Limbaugh was made aware during the course of the broadcast that the thesis was fake, but still defended it by saying “I know Obama thinks it.”

Recently I pointed out that scummy guys like Beck and Hannity drank from the global warming denier’s well and twisted what a climate modeler said. Making him say the opposite of what he had said at a climate conference.

You would think that they had access to fact checkers (hah! :p) but at least the fact checkers that Rush has demonstrate that they are alive at least.

However, it is clear that they are not very useful even when they do help Rush.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-has-a-dan-rather-moment/515038/3 "2009-10-25T06:20:30Z")

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Haha funny.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-has-a-dan-rather-moment/515038/4 "2009-10-25T06:45:05Z")

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Gotta agree. El Rushbo screwed the pooch twice on that one. First by not having it verified; and secondly by pulling, as you say, the Dan Rather excuse to wave it away.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-has-a-dan-rather-moment/515038/5 "2009-10-25T14:29:38Z")

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People are saying Rush Limbaugh was there when Glenn Beck may or may not have raped and killed a young girl in 1990 too. I don’t necessarily believe it, but there are questions that need answering. And I just know Rush would have been there, if it did or did not happen.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-has-a-dan-rather-moment/515038/6 "2009-10-25T14:46:42Z")

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Well, I know people are saying that, but its totally unfair until we have a thorough and complete investigation. And these rumors of gay butt-sex between Rushbo and Beck are disgraceful and (so far as has I know) entirely unfounded, and I will not advance such slander.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-has-a-dan-rather-moment/515038/7 "2009-10-25T15:04:21Z")

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But we know they’ve both thought about it.

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**Author:** ![Pray\_for\_peace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Pray\_for\_peace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pray_for_peace)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-has-a-dan-rather-moment/515038/8 "2009-10-25T15:10:31Z")

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Rats. I missed this story. I was hoping you were going to tell us that someone beat on him while shouting “What’s the frequency, Kenneth?” 😃

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-has-a-dan-rather-moment/515038/9 "2009-10-25T15:11:45Z")

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I’ve thought about it.

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-has-a-dan-rather-moment/515038/10 "2009-10-25T15:12:26Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> But we know they’ve both thought about it.

I’d feel just awful if I didn’t point out the Limbaugh sized hole in your argument. We have no proof that either Limbaugh or Beck have ever thought or are capable of such things.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-has-a-dan-rather-moment/515038/11 "2009-10-25T15:21:01Z")

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> [@Harborwolf](#):
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> I’d feel just awful if I didn’t point out the Limbaugh sized hole in your argument. We have no proof that either Limbaugh or Beck have ever thought or are capable of such things.

Still, though, I’m sure the American people would like to hear their reassurances that nothing improper happened. That’s not unreasonable. Why would they resist calming the concerns of the American people?

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**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-has-a-dan-rather-moment/515038/12 "2009-10-25T15:21:59Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> People are saying Rush Limbaugh was there when Glenn Beck may or may not have raped and killed a young girl in 1990 too. I don’t necessarily believe it, but there are questions that need answering. And I just know Rush would have been there, if it did or did not happen.

Very, very farfetched.

What are the odds of Limbaugh being there when (if?) Glenn Beck raped and murdered a young girl in 1990?

Did Limbaugh even know Beck in 1990?

To me, that’s the most troubling part of this story. It’s so bloody unlikely, that no one would just make it up. It has to be true.

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**Author:** ![Weston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8797f3/32.png) [@Weston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weston)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-has-a-dan-rather-moment/515038/13 "2009-10-25T15:29:47Z")

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There are certainly some questions which need answering.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-has-a-dan-rather-moment/515038/14 "2009-10-25T15:37:07Z")

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Conservatives aren’t held to the same standard as liberals, there will be no consequences for Rush.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-has-a-dan-rather-moment/515038/15 "2009-10-25T15:38:23Z")

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That explains the wonky news scroll about [temps in the Vatican](http://www.theonion.com/content/news/priest_shortage_forces_vatican_to).

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-has-a-dan-rather-moment/515038/16 "2009-10-25T15:40:22Z")

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Come to think of it, has the Pope released any of his baptismal records? Have we any firm, substantiated proof that he is, in fact, Catholic?

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-has-a-dan-rather-moment/515038/17 "2009-10-25T15:43:07Z")

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Limbaugh’s entire career is a “Dan Rather” moment.

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**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-has-a-dan-rather-moment/515038/18 "2009-10-25T15:56:58Z")

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I heard Beck and Rush were both founding members of NAMBLA. I find it disturbing that they have not opened up their financial records to prove otherwise. Do they have something to hide?

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-has-a-dan-rather-moment/515038/19 "2009-10-25T16:33:45Z")

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Who is Dan Rather?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-has-a-dan-rather-moment/515038/20 "2009-10-25T16:36:53Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Come to think of it, has the Pope released any of his baptismal records? Have we any firm, substantiated proof that he is, in fact, Catholic?

I suspect he poops in the woods.

And has bits of TP stuck to him.

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