# Rush Limbaugh stealthily inducted into Hall of Famous Missourians. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 14, 2012, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-stealthily-inducted-into-hall-of-famous-missourians/621940 "2012-05-14T23:44:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Dave\_Hartwick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7feea3/32.png) [@Dave\_Hartwick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dave_Hartwick)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-stealthily-inducted-into-hall-of-famous-missourians/621940/21 "2012-05-15T09:05:54Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > Good. Another reason to avoid bible-belting thumpers and their state of Missouri (or Missour-a). > > When states decide to award Truman and a racist pill-popper on the same shelf, I welcome them to secede. Who ordered another extra-large douche? Seems like one was plenty. ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-stealthily-inducted-into-hall-of-famous-missourians/621940/22 "2012-05-15T10:25:46Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > IIRC, he moved to Connecticut before he was 40, was neighbours with Harriet Beecher Stowe, and lived the rest of his life there. > > History, bitches. Wait, just how old is Limbaugh? ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-stealthily-inducted-into-hall-of-famous-missourians/621940/23 "2012-05-15T11:10:15Z")
> [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > get a grip. It’s a state HOF. for people from the state. He’s famous. Get over it. > > oh, and if the GOP was able to slip this one by the democrats, maybe they could try slipping a budget by them, too. > > Actually, if you are that outraged, you should vote out the dems that permitted this atrocity to happen! :dubious: The GOP have a nicely gerrymandered double majority, thanks. The Dem legislators could pretty much stay home and accomplish as much. ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-stealthily-inducted-into-hall-of-famous-missourians/621940/24 "2012-05-15T12:11:02Z")
> [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > He’s famous. Infamous. > [@Locrian](#): > > When states decide to award Truman and a racist pill-popper on the same shelf, I welcome them to secede. Truman was [no saint](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m53WBUjk4aQ). ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-stealthily-inducted-into-hall-of-famous-missourians/621940/25 "2012-05-15T12:37:39Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > IIRC, he moved to Connecticut before he was 40, was neighbours with Harriet Beecher Stowe, and lived the rest of his life there. > > History, bitches. Well sure - that plus that whole “Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court”. But when I think Twain, I think Missouri (and TNG episodes where he hangs out with Whoopi). I just thought it was funny. ---
**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-stealthily-inducted-into-hall-of-famous-missourians/621940/26 "2012-05-15T13:05:58Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > I don’t know if anyone has told you this before, but you’re kind of a douche. > > 😃 Nope. And since I don’t consider you an element of the set “anyone”, I still haven’t. :D\* What do you do, follow me around the board? Speaking of the need to get a life… 😃 Why don’t you shut off your computer for a while and go to your state’s Hall of Fame. 😃 Let me guess, you live in Missouri… 😃 Or perhaps you are just the asshole most folks on the board think you are. 😃 Wait a minute. Let me put you back on ignore. 😃 There, that’s better. 😃 (no, really… it IS better) Now wank away, fuckstick. 😃 The only thing your pointless comments will bother now is your keyboard. 😃 \*😃 - Lobohan’s official “I’m being a prick, but this is my “I was just kidding, can’t you take a joke?”” smilie. ---
**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-stealthily-inducted-into-hall-of-famous-missourians/621940/27 "2012-05-15T13:10:54Z")
> [@gamerunknown](#): > > Infamous. > > Truman was [no saint](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m53WBUjk4aQ). Interesting link on Truman. Thanks for posting that. Infamous? In what way? He’s not Pol Pot. He’s a conservative talking head. Just how are you defining Infamous? ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-stealthily-inducted-into-hall-of-famous-missourians/621940/28 "2012-05-15T13:30:30Z")
Well, as someone that lives in the UK, the only publicity I’ve seen for him has been negative. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-stealthily-inducted-into-hall-of-famous-missourians/621940/29 "2012-05-15T13:39:08Z")
> [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > Infamous? In what way? He’s not Pol Pot. He’s a conservative talking head. Just how are you defining Infamous? The halls of logic and political discourse have been ravaged by a troop of shit-flinging monkeys and vomited upon by diseased vultures. The doors may have been cracked by predecessors, I’ll (Bob) Grant you that, but the malignant depravities he forced upon rational thought and discussion would make Zed blush. (only mildly tongue and cheek) ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-stealthily-inducted-into-hall-of-famous-missourians/621940/30 "2012-05-15T14:10:10Z")
. . . and yet Jean Harlow is not in the Hall of Famous Missourians. \*Her \*bust would be worth seeing! ---
**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-stealthily-inducted-into-hall-of-famous-missourians/621940/31 "2012-05-15T14:15:05Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > The halls of logic and political discourse have been ravaged by a troop of shit-flinging monkeys and vomited upon by diseased vultures. The doors may have been cracked by predecessors, I’ll (Bob) Grant you that, but the malignant depravities he forced upon rational thought and discussion would make Zed blush. > (only mildly tongue and cheek) Well, I certainly can’t argue with that! ---
**Author:** ![dngnb8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/977dab/32.png) [@dngnb8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dngnb8)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-stealthily-inducted-into-hall-of-famous-missourians/621940/32 "2012-05-15T14:19:51Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Disney was one who would not object too strongly to Rush’s company, I fear . . . if he could stomach the language . . . LOL too funny ---
**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-stealthily-inducted-into-hall-of-famous-missourians/621940/33 "2012-05-15T14:24:19Z")
Here’s a serious question for those anti Rush being in the Missouri HOF: Should it be a popularity contest? Right now, it sounds like the state legislature puts people in, correct? If you turn something like this political, you are going to see people being banned for being in the wrong political party. That makes no sense to me. Rush may not be a great human being in your mind, but is that what he is being judged on? He, to me anyway, is an entertainer pure and simple. And I find him no more abrasive than someone like James Carville. But, I wouldn’t keep Carvelle out of whatever state HOF he’d be considered for (Ark?) because I can’t stand him personally. Maybe open the voting up to the entire state, and have them vote each November for whoever makes the preliminary ballot. ---
**Author:** ![dngnb8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/977dab/32.png) [@dngnb8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dngnb8)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-stealthily-inducted-into-hall-of-famous-missourians/621940/34 "2012-05-15T14:25:32Z")
> [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > Here’s a serious question for those anti Rush being in the Missouri HOF: > > Should it be a popularity contest? Right now, it sounds like the state legislature puts people in, correct? If you turn something like this political, you are going to see people being banned for being in the wrong political party. > > That makes no sense to me. Rush may not be a great human being in your mind, but is that what he is being judged on? He, to me anyway, is an entertainer pure and simple. And I find him no more abrasive than someone like James Carville. But, I wouldn’t keep Carvelle out of whatever state HOF he’d be considered for (Ark?) because I can’t stand him personally. > > Maybe open the voting up to the entire state, and have them vote each November for whoever makes the preliminary ballot. If Hall of Fames were based on character, most would be empty ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-stealthily-inducted-into-hall-of-famous-missourians/621940/35 "2012-05-15T17:08:29Z")
> [@Sicks\_Ate](#): > > Missouri House GOP members managed to induct Limbaugh, apparently with nobody being aware of it until it was time. Needless to say, Democrats are [in somewhat of a furor.](http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2012/05/14/stealth-ceremony-for-rush-his-bust/) Rush is a timbertool but there was no “stealth” about this. It’s been one of the top news items on radio and TV for _weeks_ here in Missouri and Kansas, as well as a frequent topic on talk radio and talk TV shows such as “Ruckus.” ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-stealthily-inducted-into-hall-of-famous-missourians/621940/36 "2012-05-15T17:28:56Z")
> [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > Nope. And since I don’t consider you an element of the set “anyone”, I still haven’t. :D\* > > What do you do, follow me around the board? Speaking of the need to get a life… 😃 Why don’t you shut off your computer for a while and go to your state’s Hall of Fame. 😃 > > Let me guess, you live in Missouri… 😃 Or perhaps you are just the asshole most folks on the board think you are. 😃 > > Wait a minute. Let me put you back on ignore. 😃 There, that’s better. 😃 (no, really… it IS better) > > Now wank away, fuckstick. 😃 The only thing your pointless comments will bother now is your keyboard. 😃 > > \*😃 - Lobohan’s official “I’m being a prick, but this is my “I was just kidding, can’t you take a joke?”” smilie. For some reason I’m feeling the desire to have spaghetti carbonara for lunch… ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-stealthily-inducted-into-hall-of-famous-missourians/621940/37 "2012-05-15T17:32:43Z")
> [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > Here’s a serious question for those anti Rush being in the Missouri HOF: > > Should it be a popularity contest? [snip] No, but apparently it is now. It should be based on merit. There are other Missourians and former Missourians who have done more in entertainment, philanthropy, arts and science. So the Missouri Legislature picks a talk show host? ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-stealthily-inducted-into-hall-of-famous-missourians/621940/38 "2012-05-15T17:41:28Z")
First… _timbertool_? Wasn’t that one of the regular features in Highlights magazine? I’d think Goofus and Gallant would be more appropriate. Second, though I loathe the, uh, timbertool, and find his contributions to society absolutely repugnant, it is possible to observe that he has a vast listening base, particularly in the south (yes, south–a slave state and nominally aligned with the confederacy), and has advanced a political cause further than most politicians could do on their own. He is and has been a major party player for what, twenty years at least? His fans certainly think him HoF worthy, and though I’d like to tweak the statue’s nose, see why he’d be admitted. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-stealthily-inducted-into-hall-of-famous-missourians/621940/39 "2012-05-15T17:42:13Z")
> [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > Nope. And since I don’t consider you an element of the set “anyone”, I still haven’t. :D\* > > What do you do, follow me around the board? Speaking of the need to get a life… 😃 Why don’t you shut off your computer for a while and go to your state’s Hall of Fame. 😃 > > Let me guess, you live in Missouri… 😃 Or perhaps you are just the asshole most folks on the board think you are. 😃 > > Wait a minute. Let me put you back on ignore. 😃 There, that’s better. 😃 (no, really… it IS better) > > Now wank away, fuckstick. 😃 The only thing your pointless comments will bother now is your keyboard. 😃 > > \*😃 - Lobohan’s official “I’m being a prick, but this is my “I was just kidding, can’t you take a joke?”” smilie. Are you trying to get a rise out of me, detective? Do I follow you around the board? When was the last time I responded to you, like a month ago? In any case, I was pointing out that you were being histrionic. ---
**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2012, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-stealthily-inducted-into-hall-of-famous-missourians/621940/40 "2012-05-15T17:47:49Z")
I am not by any means a fan of Rush Limbaugh, but this seems to me sort of like a Pete Rose discussion. Purely on the grounds of fame or success in his field as a broadcaster, there is no doubt that he is one of the most famous and most successful of this generation, and based on that alone, I don’t think anyone would dispute he would belong in just about any state’s hall of fame. The issue arises when you start evaluating his personal life and views and that it definitely is an integral part of his impact on his field, just as Pete Rose’s betting affected his. The problem here is that there isn’t any sort of universal rule or principle that will say that his views and message are inherently negative. Those who share his perspective will think that much more of his accomplishments and those who disagree with his perspective will think less of them. So I don’t think it’s fair to punish him for simply disagreeing with him, particularly since it’s important to minimize politics, even if a figure politics figure largely in a person’s contributions. For instance, regardless of your feelings for various presidents, I’d think every single one rightfully deserves a place in his home state’s hall of fame. That said, I would say that there could be a legitimate case against him for situations of actively lying or creating excessive controversy or whatnot, but even a lot of that is difficult to filter out from his political message. Either way, I don’t think putting him in the hall of fame diminishes the accomplishments of others in there. There’s a subjective minimum to get in, but there’s no tiers after that. And though I’m not a fan of his, I think he meets that minimum requirement accounting for the issues I disagree with him on. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-stealthily-inducted-into-hall-of-famous-missourians/621940.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-stealthily-inducted-into-hall-of-famous-missourians/621940.md?page=3)