# Rush Limbaugh, you finally lost me. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 6, 2003, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-you-finally-lost-me/217332 "2003-12-06T05:45:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2003, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-you-finally-lost-me/217332/21 "2003-12-06T15:27:01Z")
I love Rush. This is incredible showmanship. I laugh til it hurts. He’s buying into the culture of victimization. The investigation isn’t a result of his actions that he has to take responsibility for, it politically motivated. Rush was just minding his own business doing his radio show when, BAM! out of nowhere authorities seize his medical records. Poor, poor baby. He’s a victim of the Liberal police dept in FL. Oddly enough, this makes me want to listen to him more. Sadly, I don’t get the chance as often as I’d like. ---
**Author:** ![BrandyFine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrandyFine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrandyFine)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2003, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-you-finally-lost-me/217332/22 "2003-12-06T15:29:18Z")
Haha Simon, you have a point. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2003, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-you-finally-lost-me/217332/23 "2003-12-06T15:49:36Z")
> [@](#): > > [**Rush: Dems pickin’ on me**](http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/143231p-126786c.html) > > “I bet if I’d been treated by Dr. Dean, the Democrats would have demanded his records,” Limbaugh said on his radio show, referring to presidential candidate Howard Dean. “You people are taking aim at me in so many different ways.” > > “They are looking to publicly embarrass him and affect his radio program,” Roy Black said on NBC’s “Today Show.” “Why is Rush Limbaugh the only person treated like this in America?” ---
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2003, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-you-finally-lost-me/217332/24 "2003-12-06T15:54:07Z")
> [@](#): > > **[Limbaugh: Agents seized medical records](http://www.smdailyjournal.org/article.cfm?issue=12-05-03&storyID=26219)** > > “What these records show is that Mr. Limbaugh suffered extreme pain and had legitimate reasons for taking pain medication,” Limbaugh said, reading from the statement by attorney Roy Black. “Unfortunately, because of Mr. Limbaugh’s prominence and well-known political opinions, he is being subjected to an invasion of privacy no citizen of this republic should endure.” ---
**Author:** ![Lizard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@Lizard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lizard)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2003, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-you-finally-lost-me/217332/25 "2003-12-06T16:11:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by BrandyFine \* > **Lizard I don’t think the joke about prison rape is funny at all. I wouldn’t find it funny if the radio personality (that you haven’t even listened to) made a joke like that either, but you’ll be hard pressed to find one like it.** You are absolutely correct. It is NOT funny, and that is the point. I don’t happen to find any aspect of our legal/justice system humorous, given its deadly serious purpose. Unfortunately, Limbaugh apparently doesn’t get that. He’s whistling past a graveyard right now, when he should be thinking instead of all the potential consequences of what is going on, some of them profoundly unpleasant. > [@](#): > > As far as poking fun at the investigation, you left out one possibility for the motivation. Yes, perhaps he is guilty and just thinks his shit doesn’t stink. The other possibility is that he’s innocent of the particular crime he is being investigated for and feels confident that justice will prevail on that score. Both are equally valid causes for that type of reaction. You are missing part of the point of the OP. We’re not debating here hether he’s guilty or innocent; either way, that’s for the courts to decide. My point was that _whether he is guilty or not_, he is acting like a pompous asshole. This is not the only such story about comments Limbaugh has made on his sho, it’s just the onlyone I had handy to link to. It is at least the third such story I have read on seperate incidents. I wouldn’t have started this thread over the single article I qhoted in the OP. > [@](#): > > As to his being innocent, I have no idea. Nor do you have any evidence as to the amount of painkillers involved. It could have involved just a couple of doctors, for all you know. (The article mentions “doctor shopping” as opposed to black marketing.) None of us knows this yet. It could be you are correct. I do not know. Read the last paragraph of the original article again. It clearly states “2,000 pills” and “four doctors.” ---
**Author:** ![x27](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/7993a0/32.png) [@x27](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/x27)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2003, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-you-finally-lost-me/217332/26 "2003-12-06T17:10:10Z")
[http://www.thankyoufortakingmycall.com/](http://www.thankyoufortakingmycall.com/) I was glad to hear “Bob” whoooossshhh Rush on his first day back to work, the pompous windbag. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2003, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-you-finally-lost-me/217332/27 "2003-12-06T22:48:29Z")
“What these records show is that Mr. Limbaugh suffered extreme pain and had legitimate reasons for taking pain medication,” Limbaugh said, reading from the statement by attorney Roy Black. “Unfortunately, because of Mr. Limbaugh’s prominence and well-known political opinions, he is being subjected to an invasion of privacy no citizen of this republic should endure.” Two words: Monica Lewinsky. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2003, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-you-finally-lost-me/217332/28 "2003-12-06T23:01:53Z")
- > [@](#): > > originally posted by rjung\* \*\* Two words: Monica Lewinsky\*\* You said a mouthful. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Purl\_McKnittington](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@Miss\_Purl\_McKnittington](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Purl_McKnittington)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2003, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-you-finally-lost-me/217332/29 "2003-12-07T01:32:38Z")
I’ve personally have thought Rush Limbaugh the king of lowest common denominators ever since I found out about how he called Chelsea Clinton the “White House dog” on his television show back when Chelsea was 12 or so. (I found out about it long after the fact.) IMHO, as soon as you take to attacking the families of people whose political opinions don’t mesh with yours in cheap ways like that, you’ve only begun on the remarkably short road to destroying your own credibility. Rush Limbaugh is scum, with no interest of rising above the level he is currently at, because he has a loyal fanbase of “dittoheads” who are only too happy to parrot his words. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Gui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@El\_Gui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Gui)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2003, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-you-finally-lost-me/217332/30 "2003-12-07T01:50:57Z")
Oh the mendacity! > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by BrandyFine \* > \*\*Dean has campaigned against Limbaugh and little else as though that was who he were running against! Clinton has blamed Rush for countless ills befalling the entire country \*\* So tell us why a search for “Limbaugh” on Dean’s official website (which includes his weblog) produces a whopping [five hits!](http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/Search?query=limbaugh&inc=10) Only one of the hits leads to an actual statement from Dean regarding Limbaugh (a statement on Limbaugh’s ESPN comments) and the rest are either links to outside sources that refer to Limbaugh in an innocuous way or refer back to this one statement (a search for “Bush” maxes out at the 500 hit limit). Your “Clinton blaming Rush” claim is also bullshit. (Starting off a post by making blatantly false claims would make many stop reading any further, being a “wishy-washy” liberal though, I continued.) > [@](#): > > (I’m sure the DA never has [a political motivation.] :rolleyes: ) but the press does, especially with someone who publically takes the mainstream press to task regularly. The DA’s office began their investigation **10 months** prior to the National Enquirer story. Were any public comments made by the DA prior to the story? Any leaks to the press (because the “liberal” media would surely print them, right?)? As for the media, why did the Enquirer sit on the story for 10 months instead of printing it right away? How many stories has The New York Times (that purported bastion of liberalism) run specifically on his addiction? From my quick search, there are a grand total of Five! That includes one news brief of less than 100 words and two articles appearing in the Arts/Culture section E! And even assuming all five articles/news briefs are slanted against poor Rush, I would still fail to see anything remotely like some horrible media backlash. And look who also is linking to the very same dishonest, horribly slanted AP story linked by the OP; it’s the Rush-hating [Matt Drudge.](http://www.drudgereportarchives.com/dsp/links_recap.htm/) Take a look at Limbaugh’s site. What’s one of the first things you see? “Rush’s Attorney Roy Black on the Today Show”. So Rush, through his attorney, is using the “liberal” media to defend himself, yet you find it so unbelievable that he has done anything of the sort on his show? > [@](#): > > No way would they [the media] have been letting quotes slide and then suddenly pounce on this one. Can you point to me where you see such pouncing? The NYT only has one news brief, less than 100 words, on the seizure of documents and quotes Rush as describing the actions by the DA as a “fishing expedition”. Is that “pouncing”? It’s cute how “innocent until proven guilty” has become the new dittoheaded holy mantra. Rush would never make any accusations of guilt against anyone until after proven in a court of law, right? ---
**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2003, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-you-finally-lost-me/217332/31 "2003-12-07T02:15:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally vomited by Rush Limbaugh \* > **"I bet if I’d been treated by Dr. Dean, the Democrats would have demanded his records. You people are taking aim at me in so many different ways."** Well, yeah, but only if records from pharmacies near your mansion totalling over 2,000 powerful opioid pills traced back to just four doctors, of whom Dean was one. :wally Somehow I suspect that Dr. Dean is among the vast majority of good physicians, rather than a [drug dealer with an MD.](http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=doctor+convicted+oxycontin) ---
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2003, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-you-finally-lost-me/217332/32 "2003-12-07T02:50:25Z")
I always snicker when Rush goes on about “The Media.” With 20mil+ listeners, he’s definitely a part of it. I’m not sure what the actual numbers are, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he had more listeners than the major network news programs or the major newspapers have readers. But it’s hard to play the victim w/o an evil oppressor. But humor is my reason for enjoying his show so much. I also get a big kick out of knowing that there’re literally millions of people who’re listening to the same thing as i am who’re swallowing it whole w/o chewing on it first. Listening to Rush makes me feel smarter. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Gui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@El\_Gui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Gui)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2003, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-you-finally-lost-me/217332/33 "2003-12-07T15:04:48Z")
Ouch! Well, the good folks over at [thesmokinggun.com](http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/rushsearch1.html) have been nice enough to post one of the Affidavit and Application for Search Warrants in this matter. Top of page 3 is rather damning. It details how members of the State Attorney’s Office and Palm Beach Sheriff’s Office: > [@](#): > > met with husband and wife David and Wilma Cline . . . The Clines advised that they had been selling Rush Limbaugh large quantities of Hydrocodone, Oxycontin and other pharmaceuticals drugs in Palm Beach County over the course of many years. The Clines made a taped statement, provided answering machine tape recordings and electronic mail in support of their information. The Clines also provided information on another drug dealer from whom they obtained most of the drugs that they sold to Limbaugh. The information regarding the additional drug dealer was fully investigated, corroborated and resulted in the undercover purchase of large quantities of the described narcotics. Based on the information provided by the Clines an investigation was initiated which resulted in several arrests. And here is a partial listing of Rush’s [shopping list.](http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/rushsearch5.html) :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2003, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-you-finally-lost-me/217332/34 "2003-12-07T15:19:24Z")
But … but … his back hurt. ---
**Author:** ![Beagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Beagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beagle)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2003, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-you-finally-lost-me/217332/35 "2003-12-07T18:36:51Z")
His back _really_ hurt. His kidneys, liver, and heart – not to mention his ears – must hurt also. ---
**Author:** ![laigle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce7236/32.png) [@laigle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/laigle)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2003, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-you-finally-lost-me/217332/36 "2003-12-07T20:38:35Z")
Boy, just think how many pills he’ll need to relieve those sphincter aches after a few weeks in the hole. And yes, I do find jokes about prison rape funny. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2003, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-you-finally-lost-me/217332/37 "2003-12-09T20:09:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by wring \* > > * * * > > You said a mouthful. > > 😃 \*\* Um, no, the “mouthful” smilie would be this one: :o ---
**Author:** ![l1I235](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@l1I235](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/l1I235)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-you-finally-lost-me/217332/38 "2003-12-10T07:09:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by lillalette \* > \*\*I’ve personally have thought Rush Limbaugh the king of lowest common denominators ever since I found out about how he called Chelsea Clinton the “White House dog” on his television show back when Chelsea was 12 or so. (I found out about it long after the fact.) IMHO, as soon as you take to attacking the families of people whose political opinions don’t mesh with yours in cheap ways like that, you’ve only begun on the remarkably short road to destroying your own credibility. Rush Limbaugh is scum, with no interest of rising above the level he is currently at, because he has a loyal fanbase of “dittoheads” who are only too happy to parrot his words. \*\* Nor let us forget the “take the bone out of your nose” comment he once made to a black caller. ---
**Author:** ![RexDart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@RexDart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RexDart)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-you-finally-lost-me/217332/39 "2003-12-10T07:19:29Z")
Eh, I still like Rush. Out of all the right-wing political radio hosts, he’s the only one that generally stays out of the moralist social conservatism nonsense (by which I’m referring to Hannity, among others), so short of actually getting the local station to carry all 3 hours of Neil Boortz, Rush is the best this libertarian’s gonna get. He’s still pretty funny when he brings up some wacky news items, as there’s no shortage of crazy ideas those lefty radicals want to implement. The recent story of the U of Ill.-Chicago trying to eliminate gender-segregated bathrooms was priceless. When Rush sticks to that sort of thing, he’s gold. Anyways, if all those idiot Hollywood celebrities basically get off scot-free for their drug problems with a stint in rehab and a slap on the wrist, I don’t see why Rush should be treated any more severely. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-you-finally-lost-me/217332/40 "2003-12-10T08:26:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by RexDart \* > Anyways, if all those idiot Hollywood celebrities basically get off scot-free for their drug problems with a stint in rehab and a slap on the wrist, I don’t see why Rush should be treated any more severely. Uh, maybe because those “idiot Hollywood celebrities” didn’t go around denouncing all drug abusers as criminal scum who should be imprisoned, but Rush did? **Rush:** “Drug abusers are scum and should be locked away!” **rjung:** “But you’re a drug abuser.” **Rush:** “…except me!” :rolleyes: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-limbaugh-you-finally-lost-me/217332.md?page=1)