# Rush Returns!  Today!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-returns-today/213702>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 17, 2003, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-returns-today/213702 "2003-11-17T15:09:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Beagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Beagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beagle)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-returns-today/213702/1 "2003-11-17T15:09:22Z")

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Like many of you, I’m assuming he is going to explain, _mea culpa_ style, why he was such a hypocrite on the drug war.

Or, not?

Many US talking-head type conservatives have lined up to defend Rush as the intellectual leader of the modern conservative movement. Which, I guess, makes modern conservatism not unlike the 1960s counterculture movement led by Jimi Hendrix or Keith Richards.

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**Author:** ![keithnmick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90db22/32.png) [@keithnmick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/keithnmick)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-returns-today/213702/2 "2003-11-17T15:23:05Z")

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Maybe he’ll give Donovan McNabb props for his stellar performance yesterday and his team’s five straight victories. That’s more likely. Still unlikely though.

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**Author:** ![Mojo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Mojo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mojo)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-returns-today/213702/3 "2003-11-17T16:01:06Z")

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There’s a NY Times [article](http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/17/arts/17RUSH.html?pagewanted=1) on this subject, which includes the line:

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> There is much riding on whether Mr. Limbaugh can beat his addiction, including a lot of money.

Which explains why Bill Bennett’s in his corner.😉

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**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-returns-today/213702/4 "2003-11-17T16:32:11Z")

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Oh hell. I thought they were releasing a new album today.

:mad:

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**Author:** ![Beagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Beagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beagle)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-returns-today/213702/5 "2003-11-17T17:16:46Z")

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GAH! I missed the first 13 minutes. He did go through all the “12 step” mantras at the end. Now he wants to discuss politics. Judges? That’s ironic.

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**Author:** ![Beagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Beagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beagle)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-returns-today/213702/6 "2003-11-17T17:22:54Z")

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Football? Oh, man, I have some crow cheese to eat.

I’m waiting… Taps watch. [Rush’s site where he will post his comments.](http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_111703/content/rush_speaks.guest.html)

“Purple Haze all in my brain. Lately things just don’t seem the same…”

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**Author:** ![Beagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Beagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beagle)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-returns-today/213702/7 "2003-11-17T17:28:24Z")

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“…There was no phoniness…”

“…I was honest with you throughout the whole time…”

“…I meant what I said…”

First caller: “We are so proud of you…”

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-returns-today/213702/8 "2003-11-17T18:18:23Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Beagle \*  
> \*\*Many US talking-head type conservatives have lined up to defend Rush as the intellectual leader of the modern conservative movement. \*\*

Whether or not this can be documented, there are not nearly enough rolleyes smilies in the entire SDMB smiley bank to respond to such a statement.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-returns-today/213702/9 "2003-11-17T18:22:04Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Beagle \*  
> \*\*First caller: “We are so proud of you…” \*\*

I wonder how proud of him they’d be if it was heroin instead of Oxycotin.

I ask all these questions, but I never get the answers I want…

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-returns-today/213702/10 "2003-11-17T19:00:01Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Attrayant \*  
> \*\*Oh hell. I thought they were releasing a new album today.
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> :mad: \*\*

Hey! The live album was released just three weeks ago!

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**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-returns-today/213702/11 "2003-11-17T20:32:02Z")

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They’ve sucked goats since Moving Pictures. Better forgotten than unfondly remembered, in my opinion.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-returns-today/213702/12 "2003-11-17T21:36:42Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Lord Ashtar \*  
> \*\*I wonder how proud of him they’d be if it was heroin instead of Oxycotin.
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> I ask all these questions, but I never get the answers I want… \*\*

That’s because the people who could answer have all been the recipients of “Limbaughtomies”.

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**Author:** ![Creative\_Munster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/919ad9/32.png) [@Creative\_Munster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Creative_Munster)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-returns-today/213702/13 "2003-11-17T21:41:34Z")

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Doesn’t seem to me he admits to being a hypocrite. That’s a damn shame. I am pretty sure at one point, before he started popping the pills, he would have asserted that the vile person doing the same thing he ended up doing needed to be incarcerated.

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**Author:** ![Beagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Beagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beagle)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-returns-today/213702/14 "2003-11-17T22:02:42Z")

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“talking-head type conservatives”

I would define as: Ann Coulter, Michael Reagan, Sean Hannity, Joe Scarborough\*… I’ve heard Coulter, Scarborough and some others defend Rush as being different than other drug addicts because, well, “he had pain” in a phrase – then go on to explain how important he is to the whole conservative movement. Roll your eyes until you pull a muscle.

He is important from a “every day for three hours” standpoint. For years there wasn’t anything quite like Rush, then there was. Like Elvis, only moreso.

\*R, FL / talking head – I think I debated against that guy a couple times in HS. Weird. I just checked his bio and some other stuff. I really think I did now. You know you are getting old when… :eek:

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**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2003, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-returns-today/213702/15 "2003-11-18T03:51:14Z")

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You forgot Mike Savage, who tonight declared that “Captain and Commander”(sic) was just unbelievably bad because it was a NAMBLA fantasy world where people (read: fag screenwriters) actually play instruments and sing which, according to him, is historically inaccurate. I assume that he must think that singing and instrument playing among soldiers and officers and intellectuals was invented by Broadway, because that was his point over and over again, among other races and nationalities that he thought should eat shit and die.

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**Author:** ![sirtonyh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ad7895/32.png) [@sirtonyh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sirtonyh)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2003, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-returns-today/213702/16 "2003-11-18T11:06:00Z")

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> From a transcript of his show
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> There’s No Hypocrisy Here
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> People are saying that I am a hypocrite, as I was using drugs. Yet, I was telling people to lead a moral life and do the right thing. Okay, if what I was saying to do was the right thing about whatever subject, does the fact that I may not have been doing it myself mean that it’s not right to do? My behavior doesn’t change right and wrong. And just because I may have been doing something that appeared to be contradictory to what I was suggesting others do doesn’t mean that what I was suggesting others do is wrong.
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> You know, the critics want to harp on all this hypocrisy. There’s no hypocrisy in this, because there is no weakening of right and wrong simply because some people don’t choose to live that way in certain areas of their lives. I mean, if something like the speed limit is 70, and I tell people I don’t want you driving faster than 70; you’re risking your life; you’re risking other people’s lives; you’re wasting fuel and I got caught speeding for 95 miles an hour, was I wrong that you shouldn’t be speeding? No, I was the one wrong, but it didn’t change the value of right and wrong simply because I didn’t abide by it at a particular time.

From websters dictionary;

Main Entry: hy·poc·ri·sy  
Pronunciation: hi-'pä-kr&-sE also hI-  
Function: noun  
1 : a feigning to be what one is not or to believe what one does not; especially : the false assumption of an appearance of virtue or religion  
2 : an act or instance of hypocrisy

I can’t believe he actually said he wasn’t guilty of hypocrisy and then went on to give a near perfect textbook definition of it 😃

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**Author:** ![crazy\_grady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dbc845/32.png) [@crazy\_grady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crazy_grady)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2003, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-returns-today/213702/17 "2003-11-18T11:21:27Z")

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I love Rush Limbaugh. He’s a smart guy who has worked hard and a true professional. I agree with about 90 percent of what he says.

I know Rush rankles most people on this board, and that is great by me. We will have one hand tied behind our brain just to make it fair!

Go Rush!

Grady

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2003, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-returns-today/213702/18 "2003-11-18T11:26:46Z")

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> \*Originally posted by crazy grady \*  
> **I love Rush Limbaugh. He’s a smart guy who has worked hard and a true professional.**

You omitted “drug addict” from your description.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2003, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-returns-today/213702/19 "2003-11-18T11:42:37Z")

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> \*Originally posted by crazy grady \*  
> \*\*I know Rush rankles most people on this board, and that is great by me. We will have one hand tied behind our brain just to make it fair! \*\*

You and Rush, huh? Arm in arm in your battle against the evils of liberalism, eh.  
I’m sure Rush appreciates your support.

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**Author:** ![Eternal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecb155/32.png) [@Eternal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eternal)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2003, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-returns-today/213702/20 "2003-11-18T12:10:35Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by sirtonyh \*  
> \*\*From websters dictionary;
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> Main Entry: hy·poc·ri·sy  
> Pronunciation: hi-'pä-kr&-sE also hI-  
> Function: noun  
> 1 : a feigning to be what one is not or to believe what one does not; especially : the false assumption of an appearance of virtue or religion  
> 2 : an act or instance of hypocrisy
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> I can’t believe he actually said he wasn’t guilty of hypocrisy and then went on to give a near perfect textbook definition of it 😃 \*\*

If Rush never claimed he wasn’t on drugs it’s not technically hypocrisy (what are the chance he’d ever have to?). Of course there’s always room for pointless semantic debate.

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