# Rush, Rush, Rush... liberals are equivalent to murderers and rapists? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 20, 2009, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680 "2009-02-20T05:01:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680/121 "2009-02-21T02:48:00Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > At the risk of further miffing the hallowed master of rhetoric after he has spoken and ruled, but you are incorrect, and ridiculously so. > > Saying that liberals need to be stopped like… mimes, lacks a certain urgency, or seriousness. > > As a lawyer you should know this. If you wish to convey the seriousness of a criminal conspiracy you would not say that it was a scheme as sinister as Wile Coyote. The same thing applies to your other examples, reality tv producers, people who talk during movies. > > A careful and intelligent reading of the rhetorical technique Rush is using will show you that he is not comparing murderers and rapists with liberals, directly but rather comparing the seriousness of the threat they represent. > > Let me show you an example: > > “Global warming is the most serious threat we face. Like the Nazis during WWII, it must be stopped.” > > This is not equating global warming with Nazism. I am not saying global warming hates jews. It is clearly a comparison that begins and ends with the relative seriousness of the two. > > Rush Limbaugh’s comparison falls into this category. If I may be blunt, horseshit. For starters, he wasn’t even saying that liberals are a threat. He was talking about motivations that he cares little about. Secondly, liberals are as big a threat as murderers? That’s _much_ better. Even if it were true, it’s still absolutely idiotic. Lastly, Limbaugh is no dewey eyed innocent. He knew exactly what he was saying and what he was implying. He left just enough wiggle room for his supporters to claim that he is innocent of any wrongdoing while inflaming those who’re agin 'im. With regards to that, **Bricker** had him nailed. * * * > [@](#): > > Now, for the whole Rush Limbaugh is an idiot thing. Rush is on for 3 hours a day five days a week. I’ve listened to him on and off for five or six years. Sometimes I agree with what he says. Sometimes not. > > Personally, I think the idiots are those people who have never listened and judged the show for themselves, but rather form their opinions from carefully picked over and misquoted sound bites selected by his adversaries. > > We get something like this once a month or so. To me, it demonstrates a great respect for the man, that the left feels they need to keep him under constant attack. Funny. I’ve listened to his show too. I agree that he’s not an idiot. He’s an attention whore. A troll. A cut rate Ann Coulter with bigger jugs and a smaller adams apple. He cares less for the party as he does for himself. You could listen to his show for a year and hear virtually nothing about conservative thought with the only exception being that liberals are the enemy. The rest is about how he is the leader of the conservative movement (How quickly William Buckley must be spinning right now) and how bravely he stands in the face of the enemy. Never mind how quickly he hides behind the screen of being an entertainer and an editorialist when confronted. Sure there’s a smattering of buzz words (fiscal responsibility, free speech, free market, common sense, responsibility, american values) but they are never in a context where they mean any more than something that liberals are against. And every now and again he crawls out from under his bridge and lays a bag of flaming doody on someones porch (I hope Obama fails) and then marvels at how the left overrreacts at something _clearly_ taken out of context all the while basking in the adoration of his dittoheads. **Bricker** may not have it correct here, but he may have just been reaching for a convinient shorthand as well. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680/122 "2009-02-21T02:50:41Z")
> [@Stoid](#): > > Nope. > > Rush didn’t say, and I didn’t accuse him of saying that “drug users **are** rapists and murderers” or “liberals **are** rapists and murderers.” > > As someone else pointed out, he grouped them, thereby suggesting very clearly that he considers them similar in their overall level of heinousness… No, he grouped them as bad things that need to be fought regardless of the rationale. In other words, you fight murder regardless of the murderer’s rationale. You fight rape regardless of the rapist’s rationale. And you fight liberalism regardless of its rationale. In other words, if things are harmful or bad you fight them regardless of the rationale that drove them, and just like we don’t cut murderers or rapists slack because the harm they do renders their motives inconsequential, we shouldn’t cut liberalism slack because the harm it does renders its motives inconsequential. And **5-4** , I’m afraid you’re hoist on your own petard here. If you’ll go back and look at my post you’ll see that my remark regarding reading comprehension was addressed to **Guin** , not you. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680/123 "2009-02-21T02:57:45Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > We get something like this once a month or so. To me, it demonstrates a great respect for the man, that the left feels they need to keep him under constant attack. Are you familiar with the concept of low hanging fruit? Do you think that **lekatt** and **kanicbird** are two of the most respected posters around these parts? Rush says a lot of stupid bullshit. He’s a troll, except that trolls just piss everyone off: Rush’s moronic statements somehow convince a large number of people. His show oughtta be titled “Nobody ever went broke.” This is another example of his stupid bullshit. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680/124 "2009-02-21T03:16:05Z")
Actually, if anyone, Rush reminds me of **december**. Who, IIRC, was banned for the kind of shit Rush pulls. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680/125 "2009-02-21T03:19:29Z")
Banned name! ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680/126 "2009-02-21T03:25:12Z")
Look, this isn’t that complicated. Limbaugh was saying that when things are bad or have bad consequences they need to be fought regardless of motive. This is evident in his remarks about the beheading, that it doesn’t matter whether it was a beheading or domestic abuse, it’s just as bad either way and the killer’s motive is of no consequence. He was obviously attempting to undercut the sentiment that even if liberalism is bad and causes problems, its heart is in the right place so we should be more understanding and accomodating toward it. He zeroed in on rape and murder to illustrate his point because they are the most obvious examples where bad is bad and motive doesn’t matter. ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680/127 "2009-02-21T03:36:48Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Look, this isn’t that complicated. Limbaugh was saying that when things are bad or have bad consequences they need to be fought regardless of motive. This is evident in his remarks about the beheading, that it doesn’t matter whether it was a beheading or domestic abuse, it’s just as bad either way and the killer’s motive is of no consequence. > > He was obviously attempting to undercut the sentiment that even if liberalism is bad and causes problems, its heart is in the right place so we should be more understanding and accomodating toward it. He zeroed in on rape and murder to illustrate his point because they are the most obvious examples where bad is bad and motive doesn’t matter. Could you clarify this a bit more cause it honestly sounds that you are comparing liberalism to rape and murder more than Rush did. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680/128 "2009-02-21T03:40:38Z")
Well, now that you’re warmed up, maybe you can explain that incredibly stupid “NOW” remark from the Pillsbury D’oh Boy? Since you got your semantic parsing tools all sharpened up, should be a cinch. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680/129 "2009-02-21T03:42:21Z")
> [@Harborwolf](#): > > Could you clarify this a bit more cause it honestly sounds that you are comparing liberalism to rape and murder more than Rush did. Recent electoral events have them distraught, the poor dears. They feel like they were fucked by a train and stuffed into a wood chipper. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680/130 "2009-02-21T03:44:57Z")
> [@Harborwolf](#): > > Could you clarify this a bit more cause it honestly sounds that you are comparing liberalism to rape and murder more than Rush did. You’re not familiar with **Starving Artist** ’s [body of work](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10197255&postcount=211), are you? ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680/131 "2009-02-21T03:45:19Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > He zeroed in on rape and murder to illustrate his point because they are the most obvious examples where bad is bad and motive doesn’t matter. Yet he was, somehow, not equating the badness of liberalism with the badness or rape and murder? You like to pretend that you’re all intelligent and polite and shit, and you like to pretend that it is the fault of liberals that public discourse has become less polite, and yet you turn yourself into a pretzel to defend this? ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680/132 "2009-02-21T03:53:56Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > You’re not familiar with **Starving Artist** ’s [body of work](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10197255&postcount=211), are you? Oh my yes. SA’s not a bad guy really. Just seems to get a bit blinkered when it comes to politics. I can’t be the only person who finds it odd that even those who are defending El Rushbo are having problems correctly mining meaning from his words. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680/133 "2009-02-21T04:07:44Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > No, he grouped them as bad things that need to be fought regardless of the rationale. In other words, you fight murder regardless of the murderer’s rationale. You fight rape regardless of the rapist’s rationale. And you fight liberalism regardless of its rationale. > > In other words, if things are harmful or bad you fight them regardless of the rationale that drove them, and just like we don’t cut murderers or rapists slack because the harm they do renders their motives inconsequential, we shouldn’t cut liberalism slack because the harm it does renders its motives inconsequential. Just because you keep saying it doesn’t make it any more true. He grouped liberals with rapists and murderers. Period. Even if he was _promoting_ rape, murder, and liberal ideology, he grouped them. Among people who speak English, when you _group_ things and _say the same thing about them_, no matter what it is, you are saying that some aspect of them is similar enough to deserve being in the same group. In this case, Rush was grouping them together and labeling them “bad”. To people who speak English, when three things are grouped together and given a label, and two of them seem to fit that label to a very similar degree, the expectation is that the person doing the grouping intends you to see the third thing as being of a simlar degree of “x factor” as the other two. You want to say “gee”, they are all “bad”, no big. But in fact, they are not “bad, bad, and bad” They are (if you agree that liberal is a negative, which I do not…) “About as bad as bad can possibly be, Just a hair less bad than that, and Not Good.” NOT TO MENTION… that even a child could identify “Which of these things is not like the others?” Murder: CRIME against an individual involving damaging the body of a human to such a degree that they die. Rape: CRIME Against an individual involving the violation of the body, mind, and spirit, usually involving violence and always involving psychic scarring. Liberalism: well, rather than give one definition to debate, here’s a whole slew offered by google, pick the one you think is so naturally similar to the crimes of rape and murder, (without equating them with the crimes of rape and murder, obviously, because Rush wasn’t doing that!) that it makes sense to group the three as examples of “bad”: > [@](#): > > a political orientation that favors social progress by reform and by changing laws rather than by revolution > > an economic theory advocating free competition and a self-regulating market > wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn > > Liberalism refers to a broad array of related ideas and theories of government that consider individual liberty to be the most important political goal. Modern liberalism has its roots in the Age of Enlightenment. > [Liberalism - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism) > > Liberalism in the United States is a broad political and philosophical mindset, favoring individual liberty, and opposing restrictions on liberty, whether they come from established religion, from government regulation, or from the existing class structure. … > [Liberalism in the United States - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism_(US)) > > Liberalism (original German title: Liberalismus) is an influential book by Austrian School economist and libertarian thinker Ludwig von Mises, containing economic analysis and indicting critique of socialism. … > [Liberalism (book) - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism_(book)) > > The quality of being liberal; A political movement founded on the autonomy and personal freedom of the individual, progress and reform, and … > [en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Liberalism](http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Liberalism) > > liberal - broad: showing or characterized by broad-mindedness; “a broad political stance”; “generous and broad sympathies”; “a liberal newspaper”; “tolerant of his opponent’s opinions” > > liberal - tolerant of change; not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or tradition > liberal - big: given or giving freely; “was a big tipper”; “the bounteous goodness of God”; “bountiful compliments”; “a freehanded host”; “a handsome allowance”; “Saturday’s child is loving and giving”; “a liberal backer of the arts”; “a munificent gift”; “her fond and openhanded grandfather” > > liberal - free: not literal; “a loose interpretation of what she had been told”; “a free translation of the poem” > wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn > > liberalistic - having or demonstrating belief in the essential goodness of man and the autonomy of the individual; favoring civil and political liberties … > wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn > > The Liberals (Greek: Οι Φιλελεύθεροι Oi Fileleytheroi ) was a liberal political party in Greece founded by Stefanos Manos in April of 1999. The president suspended operations of the party in October of 2001, citing economic problems and limited appeal amongst the voting public . … > > [The Liberals (Greece) - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Liberals_(Greece)) > > Liberals (Liberaalit) is a free market liberal party in Finland. Founded in 1965 as a reunification of the Finnish People’s Party (Suomen … > [Liberals (Finland) - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberals_(Finland)) > > The Liberal magazine is a quarterly literary and political publication “devoted to promoting liberalism around the world”. … > [The Liberal - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Liberal) > > The Liberal Party was one of the two major British political parties from the early 19th century until the rise of the Labour Party in the 1920s, and a third party of varying strength and importance up to 1988, when it merged with the Social Democratic Party (the SDP) to form a new party which … > [Liberal Party (UK) - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_(UK)) > > One with liberal views, supporting individual liberty (see Wikipedia on Liberalism for a description of the various and diverging trends of liberalism); A supporter of any of the particular liberal parties; One opposing the views of a social conservative and favoring socially responsible taxes. … > [liberal - Wiktionary, the free dictionary](http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/liberal) > > A 19 th -century political idea which championed individual rights, civil liberties, and private property. In Latin America, it also opposed the Catholic Church’s extensive control over society (anti-clericalism) and favored an end to special privileges (fueros) for military and clerical members. > www2.truman.edu/~marc/resources/terms.html > > a recurring impulse throughout the history of Christianity currently assaulting historical Biblical Christianity. Liberalism receives its philosophical inspiration from the dialecticalism of Immanuel Kant and religious thought from Friedrich Schleirmacher, Rudolph Bultmann and Paul Tillich. > [Page Redirection](http://www.watchman.org/reltop/glosterm.htm) > > liberal - people who generally like to reform current conditions. Liberals are often referred to as the left wing. > [Election Glossary: EnchantedLearning.com](http://www.enchantedlearning.com/election/glossary.shtml) > > this philosophy of education proposes that the purpose of education is to develop the intellect. The teacher is viewed as an expert and the authority in the classroom whose responsibility it is to direct the learning experience. > www.nald.ca/adultlearningcourse/glossary.htm > > Principles, theories or actions that guarantee individual freedoms in society. > www.accommodements.qc.ca/documentation/glossaire-en.html > > Unexamined opinions formed during puberty, defended with the adult faculty of argument. > [www.theacru.org/blog/2007/04/a\_dictionary\_to\_educate\_the\_politically\_incorrect/](http://www.theacru.org/blog/2007/04/a_dictionary_to_educate_the_politically_incorrect/) > > an ideology that believes in the following social values: freedom, individualism, inequality, pragmatism, and humanism. … > www.socialpolicy.ca/l.htm > > In the context of trade policy, “liberal” usually means freedom from import controls or government restraints. … > [www.itcdonline.com/introduction/glossary2\_i-p.html](http://www.itcdonline.com/introduction/glossary2_i-p.html) > > The political doctrines of natural rights, free will, democracy, and equal protection under the law that characterized the dominant social philosophy in England during the 19th century and served as the inspiration for the American Revolution of 1776. > [davidbryant.home.att.net/glos01.htm](http://davidbryant.home.att.net/glos01.htm) > > ( in liberalism: Problems of free-market economies ) …in Europe and North America had produced a deepening disenchantment with the principal … > [www.britanica.com/EBchecked/topic/478141/profit/478141rellinks/Related-Links](http://www.britanica.com/EBchecked/topic/478141/profit/478141rellinks/Related-Links) > > The disposition to change or reform what is established, as in religion or politics; specific principles and practices developed by advocates of political change; (econ) a theory advocating individual freedom from governmental control and a market which is self-regulating. > [www.iyfradio.com/reference.htm](http://www.iyfradio.com/reference.htm) > > liberal - In the US political spectrum, “liberals” are said to be slightly left-of-center or somewhat left-of-center. Of the two main political parties, the Democrats are thought to be more liberal, as the term is currently defined. … > [www.uta.fi/FAST/GC/poliglos.html](http://www.uta.fi/FAST/GC/poliglos.html) ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680/134 "2009-02-21T04:11:31Z")
PS: Motives for murder absolutely DO matter, Starv. Self-defense, defense of another, insanity, etc. Der. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680/135 "2009-02-21T04:13:02Z")
Hey, missed a few… liberal - Not narrow or contracted. > **[Carpentry Glossary. Part 5](https://chestofbooks.com/home-improvement/woodworking/Carpentry-For-Boys/Carpentry-Glossary-Part-5.html)** > > Kit Kit. A working outfit; a collection of tools or implements. Level Level. A tool designed to indicate horizontal or vertical surfaces. Liberal Liberal. Not narrow o... liberal - Associations who supported National Liberal candidates remained affiliated to the National Liberal Federation until that body was dissolved in … [www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Contributions-to-liberal-theory](http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Contributions-to-liberal-theory) liberal - Traditionally, the word liberal means to be open to new ideas and tolerant of others. To be liberal politically, is to emphasize political and economic freedom. They tend to favor gradual changes in society and promote government programs to solve problems. [warrensburg.k12.mo.us/iadventure/allamerican/glossary.html](http://warrensburg.k12.mo.us/iadventure/allamerican/glossary.html) liberal - Political view that supports gradual change and government spending to assist lower classes in society. [www.cyberlearning-world.com/nhhs/html/vocansw.htm](http://www.cyberlearning-world.com/nhhs/html/vocansw.htm) liberal - law and order days over, says Blair > **[Смотреть новое порно 2023 бесплатно | Виртуальное порно](https://imaginariovirtual.org/)** > > Описание сайта по умолчанию. liberal - Giving or generous, or broad minded, tolerant of other ideals, nontraditional. > **[Bible Dictionary](https://www.godonthe.net/dictionary/l.html)** > > Bible Dictionary liberal - favorable to progress or reform [mm.hightechhigh.org/summer08/Vocabulary%202%20MLK-College%20Years.doc](http://mm.hightechhigh.org/summer08/Vocabulary%202%20MLK-College%20Years.doc) ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680/136 "2009-02-21T04:14:22Z")
> [@Stoid](#): > > Among people who speak English, when you _group_ things and _say the same thing about them_, no matter what it is, you are saying that some aspect of them is similar enough to deserve being in the same group. Yep, and in this case, that “aspect of them” is Rush’s attitude towards the motives of the people who do those things. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680/137 "2009-02-21T04:15:33Z")
Step away from the Google. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680/138 "2009-02-21T04:17:41Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Step away from the Google. You know I did that JUST for you, my sweet. Hehehehehe ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680/139 "2009-02-21T04:19:16Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Yep, and in this case, that “aspect of them” is Rush’s attitude towards the motives of the people who do those things. I do not understand this statement. Could you rephrase? ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680/140 "2009-02-21T04:22:44Z")
> [@Stoid](#): > > I do not understand this statement. Could you rephrase? I agree with you that there is some aspect of each item in the group that is identical. In this case, the aspect that is identical is Rush’s attitude toward the motivation of the actor. The way they are identical is that Rush doesn’t care about the motive. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680.md?page=8)