# Rush, Rush, Rush... liberals are equivalent to murderers and rapists? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 20, 2009, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680 "2009-02-20T05:01:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680/141 "2009-02-21T04:24:59Z")
> [@Harborwolf](#): > > Could you clarify this a bit more cause it honestly sounds that you are comparing liberalism to rape and murder more than Rush did. Nope. I’ve clarified it at least three times already. If you’re bound and determined to believe that Limbaugh and I equate liberalism to rape and murder there isn’t anything more I could say to persuade you otherwise. > [@Frank](#): > > Yet he was, somehow, not equating the badness of liberalism with the badness or rape and murder? Correct. He was not equating the badness of liberalism to rape and murder, he was equating the need to not let motive lessen resistance. > [@jayjay](#): > > You’re not familiar with **Starving Artist’s** body of work, are you? That really cranked you guys up, didn’t it? At least you were intellectually honest enough to include the version that explains my comments were in defense of the meme that was taking hold around here that voting Republican=EEVILLL! The intellectually dishonest and cowardly mod/poster **tomndebb** recently charged that that post was ill-considered, yet it was perfectly well-considered and offered, as I said, in the context of putting the lie to the allegation that Republicans are evil and liberals are sweetness and light. You may also recall that I said at one point during the brouhaha that followed that I had been deliberately holding off on posting all that because I felt it would be hitting below the belt (as clearly liberals haven’t _intended_ all the negative consequences that have followed in their wake) and only did so, like I said, to counter the meme that was taking hold around here that the only reason a person could be a Republican these days was if we were evil. > [@elucidator](#): > > Well, now that you’re warmed up, maybe you can explain that incredibly stupid “NOW” remark from the Pillsbury D’oh Boy? Since you got your semantic parsing tools all sharpened up, should be a cinch. Soitenly! NOW seems intent on having the killing regarded as an honor killing rather than domestic violence. To wit: \*The New York president of the National Organization for Women, Marcia Pappas, condemned prosecutors for referring to the death as an apparent case of domestic violence. “This was, apparently, a terroristic version of ‘honor killing,’” a statement from NOW said.\* [Link](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090218/ap_on_re_us/wife_beheaded) Now why this is so is anybody’s guess. Still, Limbaugh’s point, as I’ve been saying over and over again, is that it doesn’t matter whether it’s an honor killing or domestic violence, it was just as bad either way. ---
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680/142 "2009-02-21T04:25:40Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Has NOW defended honor killings? He’s just making that up out of his ass, isn’t he? I also hear that the NAACP is now defending lynchings. In fact, I heard it from Rush Limbaugh.😃 ---
**Author:** ![George\_Kaplin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3e96dc/32.png) [@George\_Kaplin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/George_Kaplin)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680/143 "2009-02-21T04:29:30Z")
> [@Starving Artist](#): > > Look, this isn’t that complicated. Limbaugh was saying that when things are bad or have bad consequences they need to be fought regardless of motive. This is evident in his remarks about the beheading, that it doesn’t matter whether it was a beheading or domestic abuse, it’s just as bad either way and the killer’s motive is of no consequence. Y’know, I think Rush Limbaugh’s brand of Conservatism has bad consequences, and I’ve given up trying to be sympathetic to his position. I don’t care _why_, he’s so relentlessly divisive and disingenuous. I don’t care _why_ he can’t seem to open his fat yap without puking up a fresh batch of lies. I don’t care _why_ he’s trying to destroy this country. At this point, the only thing is: He. Must. Be. Stopped. I don’t care how he’s come to see the world the way he has. I don’t care why a murderer does it. I don’t care why a rapist does it. I don’t care _why_ that guy blew up that office block in O.K. city a while back, killed all those innocent people and their kids. You’ve got these “Small government” types saying (paraphrased) _“Well, that’s what you get when people let the Government get too big. People fight back”_.[sup]1[/sup] You know, I don’t care. I don’t care why anymore. If I figure it out I’ll be glad to tell you because it’s interesting to know, but it doesn’t matter in terms of defeating folks like Limbaugh.[sup]2[/sup] [sup]1[/sup][sub] They may or may not have said this. But who gives a shit, right?[/sub] [sup]2[/sup][sub]This is, of course, a parody of Limbaugh’s statement quoted in the OP with a few words strategically changed to demonstrate that, yes, Limbaugh was comparing liberals to rapists and murderers. Ask yourself, if Limbaugh had never made the statements which most posters find so…distasteful, and if instead Sean Penn or someone had made similar remarks on Air America, what would be Limbaugh’s likely reaction?[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680/144 "2009-02-21T04:41:11Z")
> [@Stoid](#): > > PS: Motives for murder absolutely DO matter, Starv. Self-defense, defense of another, insanity, etc. Der. From Merriam-Webster Online: 1mur·der Pronunciation: \ˈmər-dər\ Function: noun Etymology: partly from Middle English murther, from Old English morthor; partly from Middle English murdre, from Anglo-French, of Germanic origin; akin to Old English morthor; akin to Old High German mord murder, Latin mort-, mors death, mori to die, mortuus dead, Greek brotos mortal Date: before 12th century 1: **the crime of unlawfully killing a person** especially with malice aforethought 2 a: something very difficult or dangerous \ b: something outrageous or blameworthy \ [bolding mine] You might notice that the definition of murder includes the fact that the taking of life was “unlawful”. The killings you mention are lawful (or legally excused, in the case of insanity). Still, I knew that sooner or later someone would start splitting hairs over whether all murders are equally bad. So, the first thing that you have to keep in mind is that the comment in question was made by Rush Limbaugh, not me. I’ve merely been trying to explain what he meant. Secondly, radio personalities cannot possibly parse everything they say so as to exclude every bit of semantic nitpicking that anybody anywhere might come up with. Most of us know what he meant, which is that parsing the beheading as an honor killing rather than domestic violence does nothing to lessen its atrociousness, and that NOW was being ridiculous in trying to do so. **George Kaplin** , I don’t listen to Limbaugh and I’m not defending him. What I’m doing is correcting **Stoid’s** mischaracterizations of his words in the OP (all in the name of fighting ignorance, you know). Like him or not, Limbaugh did not say nor imply what was attributed to him in the OP. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680/145 "2009-02-21T04:44:46Z")
> [@Harborwolf](#): > > Oh my yes. SA’s not a bad guy really. Just seems to get a bit blinkered when it comes to politics. Oh, yeah, thanks for the good word. …I think. 😕 😃 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680/146 "2009-02-21T04:53:30Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > It’s fucking Rush Limbaugh. What do you expect? QFT > [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > I don’t expect EVER to fuck Rush Limbaugh. If by “fuck” you mean “cover in honey and leave in a fire ant pit while you piss on him from above” I’d gladly fuck him. > [@Guinastasia](#): > > Actually, if anyone, Rush reminds me of **december**. Who, IIRC, was banned for the kind of shit Rush pulls. If he starts posting on the Straight Dope maybe he’ll be banned too. The problem is there’s a certain drooling moron segment that tunes in and supports him. Until they wise up and stop funding him he won’t be “banned” from real life. > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Look, this isn’t that complicated. Limbaugh was saying that when things are bad or have bad consequences they need to be fought regardless of motive. This is evident in his remarks about the beheading, that it doesn’t matter whether it was a beheading or domestic abuse, it’s just as bad either way and the killer’s motive is of no consequence. > > He was obviously attempting to undercut the sentiment that even if liberalism is bad and causes problems, its heart is in the right place so we should be more understanding and accomodating toward it. He zeroed in on rape and murder to illustrate his point because they are the most obvious examples where bad is bad and motive doesn’t matter. I assume he has cites handy for why Sweden, and Norway are evil like murderers, rapists, and head chopper-offers. Would you be so kind as to maybe direct me to some info on the average Swiss person is evil like a murderer and needs to be stopped? ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680/147 "2009-02-21T05:01:40Z")
> [@Harborwolf](#): > > If I may be blunt, horseshit. For starters, he wasn’t even saying that liberals are a threat. He was talking about motivations that he cares little about. Secondly, liberals are as big a threat as murderers? That’s _much_ better. Even if it were true, it’s still absolutely idiotic. Lastly, Limbaugh is no dewey eyed innocent. He knew exactly what he was saying and what he was implying. He left just enough wiggle room for his supporters to claim that he is innocent of any wrongdoing while inflaming those who’re agin 'im. With regards to that, **Bricker** had him nailed. ::shrug:: If liberals wanna think Rush is equating them with murderers, I guess they can think it. Sounds wrong to me. It’s like that chimp thing and Al Sharpton with that cartoon. Professional offensibility doesn’t bother me. One thing you need to consider is the people calling Rush a troll. Conservatives generally don’t like PC. We think it’s dumb, groupthink quasi-censorship. Some of us, including myself will go a little bit out of our way not to be PC, or to set off the PC detectors of the offerenderati. I don’t care for other people telling me what is appropriate or not appropriate to say. So, he pushes that button. He wins when others take the bait. I don’t think that’s what’s happening here. I certainly agree that he’s being nasty to liberals, but I think it’s stupid to think he’s equating them with murderers and rapists. YMMV. > [@](#): > > Funny. I’ve listened to his show too. I agree that he’s not an idiot. He’s an attention whore. A troll. A cut rate Ann Coulter with bigger jugs and a smaller adams apple. He cares less for the party as he does for himself. You could listen to his show for a year and hear virtually nothing about conservative thought with the only exception being that liberals are the enemy. The rest is about how he is the leader of the conservative movement (How quickly William Buckley must be spinning right now) and how bravely he stands in the face of the enemy. Never mind how quickly he hides behind the screen of being an entertainer and an editorialist when confronted. Sure there’s a smattering of buzz words (fiscal responsibility, free speech, free market, common sense, responsibility, american values) but they are never in a context where they mean any more than something that liberals are against. And every now and again he crawls out from under his bridge and lays a bag of flaming doody on someones porch (I hope Obama fails) and then marvels at how the left overrreacts at something _clearly_ taken out of context all the while basking in the adoration of his dittoheads. I think he cares pretty deeply about the Conservative movement. Your criticisms are not without merit. Personally the thing I disagree with Rush the most about is that there is not really any true compassion in his brand of conservatism. It’s selfish. I don’t mean that in the simplistic “let’s be greedy and starve the poor sense,” but more in the sense that there is no true community and responsibility to the community. There is little recognition and responsibility to return something to the community from which one receives benefits. While I agree with him that the government shouldn’t force that in a redistributive sense, I do think that fulfilling that obligation needs to be a strong core value of conservatism. Without it, it’s a heartless philosophy. With it sincerely, I think it beats the shit out of any other political philosophy. That’s my criticism. Clearly though you have listened enough to form an intelligent opinion, and while I don’t agree with everything you said, I have a sincere respect for someone who took the time to explore it for themselves. ---
**Author:** ![George\_Kaplin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3e96dc/32.png) [@George\_Kaplin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/George_Kaplin)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680/148 "2009-02-21T05:02:23Z")
> [@Starving Artist](#): > > George Kaplin, I don’t listen to Limbaugh and I’m not defending him. What I’m doing is correcting Stoid’s mischaracterizations of his words in the OP (all in the name of fighting ignorance, you know). Like him or not, Limbaugh did not say nor imply what was attributed to him in the OP. Yeah, but he implied something pretty close, didn’t he? Okay, so maybe he didn’t say that liberals and murderers are entirely equivalent. I’ll give you that. He _did_, however, say (and no amount of post-hoc hermeneutics can change this) that liberals are evil, and that their motives warrant as little scrutiny as the motives of rapists and murderers. Now that’s pretty fucking insulting, wouldn’t you agree? That said, in Limbaugh’s defence he _is_ a total cunt. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680/149 "2009-02-21T05:04:56Z")
So Google NOW and honor killing, just kinda wondering where this all popped up… and lo, and behold, there’s _Little Green Footballs_. Good enough as any, right. [http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/32806\_Shocka!\_NOW\_Decries\_Honor\_Killing](http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/32806_Shocka!_NOW_Decries_Honor_Killing) Anyway, they’re dripping with dull sarcasm (…doncha just hate\* dumb\* sarcasm?..) “Shocka! NOW Decries ‘Honor Killing’” Well, yes. It’s what they do, isn’t it. Point out that murder _condoned_ by some hyper-macho “code of honor” is a bit more evil than a simple domestic dispute gone terribly bad. I think they have a very good point. And that’s not just because every women I know is feminist, and I want to live. Its because its true. NOW’s attitude on this is reasonable, humane and rational. Would that any of that group of adjectives applied to that bucket of suet with a microphone. That would be nice. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680/150 "2009-02-21T05:07:02Z")
> [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](#): > > Would you be so kind as to maybe direct me to some info on the average Swiss person is evil like a murderer and needs to be stopped? Ever hear of CERN? The LHC? They’re going to destroy the world by sucking it into a black hole unless we stop them. Where have you been? ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680/151 "2009-02-21T05:17:17Z")
> [@George\_Kaplin](#): > > Yeah, but he implied something pretty close, didn’t he? Not to my mind. > [@George\_Kaplin](#): > > He _did_, however, say (and no amount of post-hoc hermeneutics can change this) that liberals are evil, and that their motives warrant as little scrutiny as the motives of rapists and murderers. Now that’s pretty fucking insulting, wouldn’t you agree? Hermeneutics? Cool! A new word. 😉 Having said that, where in the OP did Rush call liberals evil? I would agree that he believes liberal motives warrant as little scrutiny as the motives of rapists and murderers, but only in the sense that they don’t deserve scrutiny at all. I’m sure that there are other crimes and moral offenses where Limbaugh doesn’t think liberal motives and POV deserve scrutiny or consideration as well. In other words, I don’t think his beliefs in this regard are limited to, or defined by, rapists and murderers only. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680/152 "2009-02-21T05:20:23Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Anyway, they’re dripping with dull sarcasm (…doncha just hate\* dumb\* sarcasm?..) the irony . . . is so ironic . . . ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680/153 "2009-02-21T05:23:56Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Well, yes. It’s what they do, isn’t it. Point out that murder _condoned_ by some hyper-macho “code of honor” is a bit more evil than a simple domestic dispute gone terribly bad. I think they have a very good point. And that’s not just because every women I know is feminist, and I want to live. Its because its true. > > NOW’s attitude on this is reasonable, humane and rational. Would that any of that group of adjectives applied to that bucket of suet with a microphone. That would be nice. Tell it to Rush. 😃 He’s the one making the assertion that there’s no moral difference, not me. I merely answered your question as to what he meant by the statement quoted in the OP, which was that he saw no difference one way or the other. ---
**Author:** ![George\_Kaplin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3e96dc/32.png) [@George\_Kaplin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/George_Kaplin)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680/154 "2009-02-21T05:24:46Z")
> [@Starving ARtist](#): > > Not to my mind. To be honest, I don’t think we’re ever going to see eye-to-eye on this. One final thing, though: > [@Starving Artist](#): > > I would agree that he believes liberal motives warrant as little scrutiny as the motives of rapists and murderers, but only in the sense that they don’t deserve scrutiny at all. Serious question: Please explain why it is that the motives of rapists don’t deserve scrutiny? I would be genuinely interested in hearing your answer. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680/155 "2009-02-21T05:47:11Z")
PC? You mean like “freedom fries” and things like that, **Scylla**? PC isn’t just a liberal thing, OR a conservative-BOTH sides are guilty of it from time to time. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680/156 "2009-02-21T05:53:04Z")
> [@George\_Kaplin](#): > > To be honest, I don’t think we’re ever going to see eye-to-eye on this. One final thing, though: > > Serious question: Please explain why it is that the motives of rapists don’t deserve scrutiny? > > I would be genuinely interested in hearing your answer. Well, first of all scrutiny is a word that you used and I just replied in kind; neither Rush nor I had used it beforehand. And secondly, remember that I’m trying to explain what I think Rush was saying, not what I personally believe. Third, what Limbaugh is saying is not so much that the motives of rapists and murderers don’t deserve examination or attempts at insight so much as he’s saying that they don’t bring anything to bear on the heinousness of the crime. And to a certain extent I agree. From the point of view of the victim, it makes little difference whether they are beheaded because of domestic violence or as the result of an honor killing. They suffer and die the same either way. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680/157 "2009-02-21T05:56:28Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > I agree with you that there is some aspect of each item in the group that is identical. In this case, the aspect that is identical is Rush’s attitude toward the motivation of the actor. The way they are identical is that Rush doesn’t care about the motive. Okay, let’s play. Is there a reason that Rush doesn’t care about the motive of these particular things, or does Rush just not ever care about motives for anything ever? ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680/158 "2009-02-21T06:03:45Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > NOW seems intent on having the killing regarded as an honor killing rather than domestic violence. To wit: > > \*The New York president of the National Organization for Women, Marcia Pappas, condemned prosecutors for referring to the death as an apparent case of domestic violence. > > “This was, apparently, a terroristic version of ‘honor killing,’” a statement from NOW said.\* > > [Link](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090218/ap_on_re_us/wife_beheaded) > > Now why this is so is anybody’s guess. Still, Limbaugh’s point, as I’ve been saying over and over again, is that it doesn’t matter whether it’s an honor killing or domestic violence, it was just as bad either way. And I don’t see anywhere that NOW intended to state that their position was that “honor” killings are anything other than bad. There doesn’t seem to be any indication of a value judgment, merely a disagreement about the fundamental nature of the act to clarify the nature of the act. Honor killings and domestic violence are both really horrible, and while they are both violent expressions of male control over women, they are not the same thing. Again, I didn’t see anything in the article to indicate that anyone with NOW was defending honor killings. Is there some other point you were making? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680/159 "2009-02-21T06:05:11Z")
The difference is contained in that one word: “condoned”. Therebv, the evil reaches a whole 'nother level. You getting any of this? ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680/160 "2009-02-21T06:06:05Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > You’re not familiar with **Starving Artist** ’s [body of work](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10197255&postcount=211), are you? I should point out also, since we’re on the subject, that I’ve found it amusing the way people around here carry on about that. It’s no worse than what gets said about conservatives around here a hundred times a day. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-rush-rush-liberals-are-equivalent-to-murderers-and-rapists/486680.md?page=9)