# Rush (the band) haters, don't click on this thread

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** music\
**Created:** [March 24, 2022, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-the-band-haters-dont-click-on-this-thread/961601 "2022-03-24T06:16:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-the-band-haters-dont-click-on-this-thread/961601/1 "2022-03-24T06:16:01Z")

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Ever wondered what Radiohead would sound like with a breathy female singer? Check out Alex Lifeson’s new band, Envy of None. The singer, Maiah Wynne, names them as an influence, and I think this really sounds like them.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/vV-IZRh22mo/maxresdefault.jpg "Envy Of None - Liar (Official Lyric Video) from debut album Envy Of None") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV-IZRh22mo)

> **[Envy of None](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Envy_of_None)**
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> Envy of None (abbreviated as EON) is a Canadian-American rock supergroup formed in 2021 by former Rush guitarist Alex Lifeson, along with bassist Andy Curran, vocalist Maiah Wynne, and guitarist and keyboardist Alfio Annibalini. Their self-titled studio album was released on April 8, 2022.
> In June 2021, Lifeson released two new solo instrumental tracks, "Kabul Blues" and "Spy House", on his official website. The new music coincided with the release of the Alex Lifeson Les Paul Standard Axcess mo...

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-the-band-haters-dont-click-on-this-thread/961601/2 "2022-03-24T06:20:57Z")

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I’m a Rush hater, but solely because of Geddy Lee’s voice.  
So I bet I’d LOVE anything Alex did on his own.

But, still, the OP said not to click on this, so I didn’t.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-the-band-haters-dont-click-on-this-thread/961601/3 "2022-03-24T06:22:52Z")

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I also found out that a Canadian program called “Murdoch Mysteries”, which I’ve heard of, is on Hulu, which I subscribe to. Geddy Lee has a cameo in the latest episode, playing a carriage driver named (what else?) Tom Sawyer. I’m going to check it out.

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**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-the-band-haters-dont-click-on-this-thread/961601/4 "2022-03-24T09:47:46Z")

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Is there a guitar in there somewhere?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-the-band-haters-dont-click-on-this-thread/961601/5 "2022-03-24T09:56:36Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> I’m a Rush hater, but solely because of Geddy Lee’s voice.  
> So I bet I’d LOVE anything Alex did on his own.

Same here. And since I’m a rebel, I clicked on the link anyway, and the song is quite good!

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-the-band-haters-dont-click-on-this-thread/961601/6 "2022-03-24T11:39:05Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> I’m a Rush hater, but solely because of Geddy Lee’s voice.

I was about to make nearly that exact same comment. In fact, as I was growing up, there was a number of times I’d turn on the radio in the middle of a solo (drum or guitar usually) and stick around because I liked it and wanted to know who it was only to hear Geddy come shrieking back in with his vocals and I have to change it.

What’s odd is that it’s not even the tone of his voice, it’s just _something_ about it that I can’t stand. People that know how much I dislike Rush are usually surprised to find out I like bands like Supertramp or Styx (and even Radiohead and Led Zeppelin can fall into that same category).

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**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-the-band-haters-dont-click-on-this-thread/961601/7 "2022-03-24T12:53:12Z")

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Not a Rush hater, but I do dislike Geddy Lee’s voice as well. Working Man is the only song I can actually listen to of his, his voice got annoying after that. Like fingernails running across a chalk board type annoying.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-the-band-haters-dont-click-on-this-thread/961601/8 "2022-03-24T16:13:31Z")

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> [@Si\_Amigo](#):
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> Not a Rush hater, but I do dislike Geddy Lee’s voice as well.

Which one? The Geddy Lee of the mid 70s (A Fairwell to Kings, Caress of Steel, Rush, Fly By Night) are much more screechy than late 80s on stuff (Signals, etc). I think Working Man is still screechy, too. He sings much more normal in the later stuff.

Yes, I couldn’t stand the early stuff either. He got better. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-the-band-haters-dont-click-on-this-thread/961601/9 "2022-03-24T17:04:37Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> What’s odd is that it’s not even the tone of his voice, it’s just _something_ about it that I can’t stand.

Yeah, I’m usually okay with a male falsetto, but there’s this whiney timber to Geddy Lee’s voice that I find viscerally unlikable.

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**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-the-band-haters-dont-click-on-this-thread/961601/10 "2022-03-24T17:33:57Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Yeah, I’m usually okay with a male falsetto, but there’s this whiney timber to Geddy Lee’s voice that I find viscerally unlikable.

Ditto. Axl Rose falls into the same category, for me. So whiny.

Maiah Wynne’s voice, otoh, is quite pleasant.

Of course, I didn’t click on this thread, so this post doesn’t exist.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-the-band-haters-dont-click-on-this-thread/961601/11 "2022-03-24T18:34:36Z")

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FTR, I’ve been a Rush fan since 1978, when I was a 14-year-old GIRL, and I’ve never had a problem with Mr. Weinrib’s voice, but then again, that’s just me.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2022, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-the-band-haters-dont-click-on-this-thread/961601/12 "2022-03-25T07:18:59Z")

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First I’ve ever heard of this.

But can you imagine if Alex came up to 3 unknows and said, _“Hey? Wanna start a band?”_

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> I’ve never had a problem with Mr. Weinrib’s voice

Me neither. Except maybe that last tour.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2022, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-the-band-haters-dont-click-on-this-thread/961601/14 "2022-03-26T21:38:03Z")

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Last time I saw them was in 1994 (twice in one week, in different cities; long story behind that). I heard that their last few tours were instrumental-heavy for this reason.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2022, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-the-band-haters-dont-click-on-this-thread/961601/15 "2022-03-26T22:37:47Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> …twice in one week, in different cities

I did that on the Power Windows tour. LA and San Diego. I lucked into good seats at The Forum, got cocktail service and a free program!

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**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-the-band-haters-dont-click-on-this-thread/961601/16 "2022-03-27T02:55:17Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> Of course, I didn’t click on this thread, so this post doesn’t exist.

But if Geddy Lee Sings in a forest , and nobody hears,  
Is the Maple syrup going to be ok ?

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-the-band-haters-dont-click-on-this-thread/961601/17 "2022-03-27T03:10:57Z")

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No, little Preaky, that’s how Maple Vinegar was invented.

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-the-band-haters-dont-click-on-this-thread/961601/18 "2022-03-27T18:26:34Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> > [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> > I’ve never had a problem with Mr. Weinrib’s voice
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> Me neither. Except maybe that last tour.

Yeah his voice wasn’t good the last tour. He sounded fine on the album but can’t do it live anymore.

This song does nothing for me. I’ll give it a chance and listen some more. I really liked his solo album from years ago _Victor._ It was heavier than what Rush had been doing.

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**Post date:** [March 28, 2022, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-the-band-haters-dont-click-on-this-thread/961601/19 "2022-03-28T04:44:27Z")

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The only album that Rush put out that I got into is Permanent Waves.

Glad I clicked - really like what I’m hearing from Envy of None. Thanks for sharing!

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**Post date:** [April 8, 2022, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rush-the-band-haters-dont-click-on-this-thread/961601/20 "2022-04-08T04:10:23Z")

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Recently, Primus (who opened for the two shows I saw in 1994) did a “Farewell to Kings” tribute, where they played the whole album. I didn’t care for their version of “Closer to the Heart” but I think they did justice to “Xanadu.”

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/8pGKXOkkTXc/maxresdefault.jpg "Primus - Xanadu - Orlando 8/30/2021") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pGKXOkkTXc)

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