Russell Brand vs Morgan Freeman (#MeToo)

heh Morgan’s a player… When Rachel ray was on the food channel still she had a show about celebrities that cook own restaurants and Morgan’s had a "juke joint " nightclub called ground zero so she went there to do a show on the place and was he so smoothly all over her and man she was eating it up but she was married but said if she hadn’t been who knows ……

It’s mostly tongue in cheek, but the small and/or situational element of truth is what makes this explanation have some relevance here. Basically, I’m agreeing with Sage Rat’s explanation 3 with a funny video.

I would add:
1a) English law has different standards for libel, so the English media is sometimes more reluctant to publish potentially libelous stories.

Which, I’ll note, they really should have abandoned after Jimmy Savile and yet, I don’t believe, the option was ever raised.

Forgot about #MeToo in the UK. They’re still working on figuring out how to accuse pedophiles in the media.

Russel Brand forces himself onto ladies exploiting their politeness and the pressure Of the awkward situation he creates. I find it strange that a smart person like him can’t read the please-stop written all over the faces of the women he keeps embarrassing. I think it’s harrasment.

I think a lot of it is that Brand is essentially a comedian. And his actions are always presented as being in the service of comedy. If enough people find what you do funny, you can push boundaries that you normally can’t. This can be a good thing, like being able to more frankly talk about a sensitive subject. But it can also just mean that you can get away with stuff.

It’s something I’ve noticed my entire life, really. People say stuff I could never say, but because the other person is laughing, it’s okay. That said, I do also notice that, when you don’t do it correctly and do offend someone (or someone who is willing to admit it), it does tend to go really bad, really fast.

I’ve also noticed another thing: that people take their cues of whether something is okay or not by watching others. Because other people seemingly don’t mind, that communicates “oh, that guy must be safe.” And if you feel they are safe, then you’ll let them be more intimate than you would otherwise.

It’s not like it’s entirely nefarious, even. It’s the reason people will are more likely to talk to someone when someone they know and trust already talks with them. It’s how we’re wired to socialize. The problem is only when people exploit this aspect.

Though do let me be clear that I am not judging Brand himself, because I don’t know where the line is, I would need a fuller picture of the man, and I only know him from some panel shows.

Al Franken wound up having this come back to bite him. But that could be interpreted as a warning not to try to move from wacky comic into “respectability”, because then it can and will be held against you. The jokes the jester can tell, if told by actual members of the King’s court, would be grounds for a duel.

Well his behavior is finally being taken very seriously in Britain:

The comedian and actor Russell Brand has been charged with one count each of rape, indecent assault and oral rape as well as two counts of sexual assault…

The force said the allegations related to four separate women, as it appealed for anyone affected by the case to come forward.

It is alleged that Brand raped a woman in 1999 in the Bournemouth area, indecently assaulted a woman in 2001 in the Westminster area of London, orally raped and sexually assaulted a woman in 2004 in Westminster and sexually assaulted a woman in Westminster between 2004 and 2005.

This includes me. This thread was informative, I guess I missed it the first time.

Well, you got that right!

Because there is sufficient evidence that Russell Brand committed a series of horrific rapes and sexual assaults (in addition to sexual harassment), so much so that he is being prosecuted for rape and sexual assault.

The facts of the two cases are completely different. No one has accused Freeman of anything like the horrible crimes Brand is accused of (and formally accused of in a court of law, not just the court of public opinion)

Additionally not that it should matter, but Brand is not remotely in the same league as Freeman celebrity wise. Freeman is absolutely top of the A list, Brand even at the height of his Hollywood fame (when Get Me to The Greek was released) was barely B list.

FYI, the OP’s last post was in early May back in 2020.

Your response is an overtly angry reply to someone wo hasn’t been here for years and responds to exactly the opposite question they asked.

Zombie threads strike again, I had no idea this had just been reawakened yesterday after 7 years, it was at the top of my “latest” feed. But also “overtly angry”? Wtf!? What bit of that is angry? It was a factual answer to exactly the question they asked (albeit the subtext is very different in 2025 vs 2018, which is “why is Morgan Freeman behavior only considered sexual harassment, but not Russell Brand’s”).

Throughout his career it was always my impression Russell Brand foremost wants you to think he is sophisticated and clever. That is so very British.