# Russia has invaded Ukraine. How will the West respond? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Tags:** ukraine-invasion\ **Created:** [February 28, 2014, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-has-invaded-ukraine-how-will-the-west-respond/682513 "2014-02-28T15:06:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Marmite\_Lover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Marmite\_Lover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marmite_Lover)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2014, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-has-invaded-ukraine-how-will-the-west-respond/682513/41 "2014-02-28T19:42:31Z")
Breaking “Russia must immediately withdraw forces it controls to agreed base area. Simferopol is clearly outside this area” Carl Bildt on Twitter [https://twitter.com/carlbildt](https://twitter.com/carlbildt) ---
**Author:** ![Marmite\_Lover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Marmite\_Lover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marmite_Lover)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2014, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-has-invaded-ukraine-how-will-the-west-respond/682513/42 "2014-02-28T19:44:18Z")
Russian checkpoint in Crimea [![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhkdE2HIgAAqG6U.jpg) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhkdE2HIgAAqG6U.jpg) I just crossed your red line Mr President…now…your move Putin ---
**Author:** ![Marmite\_Lover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Marmite\_Lover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marmite_Lover)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2014, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-has-invaded-ukraine-how-will-the-west-respond/682513/43 "2014-02-28T19:49:22Z")
Has John Mc Cain the angel of death boarded the plane back to Kiev yet? ---
**Author:** ![Marmite\_Lover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Marmite\_Lover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marmite_Lover)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2014, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-has-invaded-ukraine-how-will-the-west-respond/682513/44 "2014-02-28T19:55:56Z")
Large Ukrainian military base being taken over by Russian military in Perevalne Bucharest TV ---
**Author:** ![nevadaexile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/eb8c5e/32.png) [@nevadaexile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nevadaexile)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2014, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-has-invaded-ukraine-how-will-the-west-respond/682513/45 "2014-02-28T19:57:04Z")
Methinks that the OP is a little premature. A attack on an airport facility is hardly the invasion of a sovereign nation. If Russian troops enter Ukraine, then things dramatically. However, since Russia has at best a mixed history of military successes since the end of WWII if they attempt a full scale invasion, it could lead to another embarrassing failure. Since none of the major new services are calling the events which are occurring an actual invasion, I’ll reserve judgment until it’s clear what is truly. happening, ---
**Author:** ![LarkingPot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@LarkingPot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LarkingPot)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2014, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-has-invaded-ukraine-how-will-the-west-respond/682513/46 "2014-02-28T19:57:16Z")
Seeing as NONE of the cable news channels is covering this AT all but rather is covering MUCH more important issues like how to stay comfortable and not be all sweaty and stinky and sweaty and icky while celebrating Mardi Gras in New Orleans. After the twin disasters and lost wars that were Gulf War II and Afghanistan THANKS SHRUB & ASSORTED CRONIES!!! there is no way Obama sends troops or ships or anything else to the area. There will be diplomatic posturing at best from the US. ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2014, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-has-invaded-ukraine-how-will-the-west-respond/682513/47 "2014-02-28T20:04:53Z")
I’m watching it on CNN right now. ---
**Author:** ![Marmite\_Lover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Marmite\_Lover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marmite_Lover)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2014, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-has-invaded-ukraine-how-will-the-west-respond/682513/48 "2014-02-28T20:05:33Z")
Ukrainian army saying they cannot act against Russian troops in Crimea till the acting president issues a state of emergency. British Home Office issues warning to all British to leave Crimea immediately by all and any commercial routes possible. Where’s Wolf Blitzer? [![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bhldr4sIAAA5Ucj.jpg) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bhldr4sIAAA5Ucj.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2014, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-has-invaded-ukraine-how-will-the-west-respond/682513/49 "2014-02-28T20:14:26Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > The US has guaranteed Ukrainian territorial integrity. That worries me. A lot. No it hasn’t. A guarantee would be “If anyone invades country X, that will be treated as an invasion of our country.” We have no such guarantee of Ukraine. We have such guarantees for NATO countries. Everyone knows we are not going to declare war on Russia because they invade Ukraine. ---
**Author:** ![Marmite\_Lover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Marmite\_Lover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marmite_Lover)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2014, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-has-invaded-ukraine-how-will-the-west-respond/682513/50 "2014-02-28T20:14:39Z")
> [@nevadaexile](#): > > A attack on an airport facility is hardly the invasion of a sovereign nation. what about an attack on some Twin Towers? does that count? ---
**Author:** ![Marmite\_Lover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Marmite\_Lover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marmite_Lover)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2014, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-has-invaded-ukraine-how-will-the-west-respond/682513/51 "2014-02-28T20:15:48Z")
That other Angel of Death William Hague the British Foreign Secretary is flying to Kiev to have talks with ‘The new government’ 😃 ---
**Author:** ![BrokenBriton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@BrokenBriton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrokenBriton)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2014, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-has-invaded-ukraine-how-will-the-west-respond/682513/52 "2014-02-28T20:26:57Z")
It’s turned out to be a pretty good example of how the US empire likes to work. ---
**Author:** ![Marmite\_Lover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Marmite\_Lover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marmite_Lover)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2014, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-has-invaded-ukraine-how-will-the-west-respond/682513/53 "2014-02-28T20:34:00Z")
“OK let’s you and me finally sort this thing out Obama” [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhkDCSsIEAACVO8.jpg](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhkDCSsIEAACVO8.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2014, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-has-invaded-ukraine-how-will-the-west-respond/682513/54 "2014-02-28T20:37:35Z")
> [@Marmite\_Lover](#): > > “OK let’s you and me finally sort this thing out Obama” > > [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhkDCSsIEAACVO8.jpg](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhkDCSsIEAACVO8.jpg) Yanno, I really don’t mean to sound patronizing…but someone reading your posts in this thread could not be blamed for wondering if you are even a little bit interested in your own OP. Is this about a discussion of possible Western responses to events in the Crimea, or is it about cheap bullshit jpegs and anti-American one-liners? Asking for a friend. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2014, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-has-invaded-ukraine-how-will-the-west-respond/682513/55 "2014-02-28T20:41:41Z")
> [@BrokenBriton](#): > > It’s turned out to be a pretty good example of how the US empire likes to work. Meaning…? ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2014, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-has-invaded-ukraine-how-will-the-west-respond/682513/56 "2014-02-28T20:51:32Z")
> [@Marmite\_Lover](#): > > US and EU plot Yeah, duly noted but you didn’t answer my question. What clever chess moves has Putin displayed here? Also you should remember that Russia has it’s main pipeline to Europe through the western part of Ukraine so the south is not the sole source of Ukraine’s power/wealth. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2014, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-has-invaded-ukraine-how-will-the-west-respond/682513/57 "2014-02-28T20:54:00Z")
> [@Marmite\_Lover](#): > > what about an attack on some Twin Towers? does that count? Not as an invasion, certainly not. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2014, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-has-invaded-ukraine-how-will-the-west-respond/682513/58 "2014-02-28T20:55:40Z")
> [@Marmite\_Lover](#): > > US and EU plot What makes you think the U.S. and the EU are even aligned here? [“Fuck the EU!”](http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2014/feb/07/eu-us-diplomat-victoria-nuland-phonecall-leaked-video) ---
**Author:** ![Marmite\_Lover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Marmite\_Lover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marmite_Lover)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2014, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-has-invaded-ukraine-how-will-the-west-respond/682513/59 "2014-02-28T20:57:43Z")
“Simferopol no longer accepting commercial flights” Aeroflot Russian Airline Reports of Russian military incursions in Crimea region of Ukraine are of ‘deep concern,’ says White House Spokesman Jay Carney Funny he didn’t mention anything when Saudi did the same in Bahrain… :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2014, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-has-invaded-ukraine-how-will-the-west-respond/682513/60 "2014-02-28T21:00:19Z")
> [@andros](#): > > Yanno, I really don’t mean to sound patronizing…but someone reading your posts in this thread could not be blamed for wondering if you are even a little bit interested in your own OP. > > Is this about a discussion of possible Western responses to events in the Crimea, or is it about cheap bullshit jpegs and anti-American one-liners? Asking for a friend. That about sums it up. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-has-invaded-ukraine-how-will-the-west-respond/682513.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-has-invaded-ukraine-how-will-the-west-respond/682513.md?page=4)