# Russia invades Ukraine {2022-02-24} (Part 1)
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
**Tags:** ukraine-invasion, breaking-news
**Created:** [February 24, 2022, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037 "2022-02-24T08:30:03Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 116
### Author:  [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2022, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2301 "2022-03-14T15:26:31Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#):
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> in addition to previously announced plans to recruit new Syrian and Libyan mercenaries
How reliable are these likely to be? The mercenaries, not the plans, I mean.
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### Author:  [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2022, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2302 "2022-03-14T15:32:19Z")
> [@Horatius](#):
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> that should be about 700 per year, the number above is for a three year period, I misread that line. So it’s even worse than that.
Thanks to our current supply chain issues, production capacity for almost any manufactured product probably needs to be reduced by at least a third.
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### Author:  [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2022, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2303 "2022-03-14T15:33:10Z")
If I were the Ukr. I’d negotiate for the russians leaving … and the when they are leaving harass the living daylight out of them running.
(Saigon 1975)^2, basically
_We are not shooting at them, but you know … our people are really angry and we now have farmers that own more armored vehicles than the army of Liechtenstein. … and sunflower-babushka has moved up to armor-piercing weaponry_
plausible deniability, and stealing billions worth of equipment from them …
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### Author:  [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2022, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2304 "2022-03-14T15:35:12Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> How reliable are these likely to be? The mercenaries, not the plans, I mean.
If they’re straight up mercenaries, I suspect Ukraine could run a GoFundMe and just out-bid Russia.
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### Author:  [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2022, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2305 "2022-03-14T15:41:14Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> How reliable are these likely to be? The mercenaries, not the plans, I mean.
welcome them with huge posters in syrian “ **the russian pay you $200 to work for them, we pay you $300 to work for us … every dead russian’s name-badge is $20 extra, every officer’s, $100 - kill 5 russians and get dental care for the low-low price of $8,99** ”
… pls apply no later than monday April 5th at Pushin-bulevar 2.345, 6th floor. Have your insurance card ready.
do we still have doubts about the reliability of them?
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### Author:  [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2022, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2306 "2022-03-14T15:45:57Z")
1. There is no language called Syrian
2. These aren’t really mercenaries. They are Assad’s troops cloaked in plausible deniability
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### Author:  [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2022, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2307 "2022-03-14T16:12:42Z")
Sanctioning the Russian oligarchs is a necessary step. They must be feeling the pinch.
But, can they do anything about the war? They’re mostly pampered businessmen. Putin is old school KGB. The size of your bank account doesn’t impress him. He’d execute anyone that looks like a threat.
Just my IMHO.
Maybe the military can take control. That’s risky too.
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### Author:  [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2022, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2308 "2022-03-14T16:16:13Z")
> [@Horatius](#):
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> ETA: that should be about 700 per year, the number above is for a three year period, I misread that line. So it’s even worse than that.
Still, the good news is that there is still an open contract for them, so the production line is active and wouldn’t have to be re-started from scratch. And the US Army could tell the contractor “We’ll be adding an additional 500 missiles on the FY23-25 contracts” and meanwhile telling the Ukrainians “look what we just found lying around…500 Javelins. Have a good day.”
Supposition, of course.
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### Author:  [@GreenWyvern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreenWyvern)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2022, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2309 "2022-03-14T16:22:27Z")
> **[Elon Musk challenges Vladimir Putin to a fight for Ukraine](https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/elon-musk-vladimir-putin-fight-russia-ukraine-b2035258.html)**
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> SpaceX and Tesla founder tweets challenge at Kremlin official account
Elon Musk has challenged Putin to single combat with Ukraine as the prize. 🙄
What a fucking idiot. He thinks that the war in Ukraine is all about free publicity for himself.
… and he’s forgotten that Putin is a Judo expert. 😁
🥋
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### Author:  [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2022, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2310 "2022-03-14T16:26:34Z")
Not a problem.
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQKrmDLvijo)
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### Author:  [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2022, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2311 "2022-03-14T16:27:37Z")
> [@GreenWyvern](#):
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> he’s forgotten that Putin is a Judo expert
Don’t remind him.
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### Author:  [@Capn\_Carl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capn_Carl)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2022, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2312 "2022-03-14T17:53:34Z")
Agreed. The Russian boxer has a black eye and a split lip, but has landed more blows, and has been pressing his opponent throughout the fight. The fight isn’t over, but all 3 judges have him ahead. Also, he’s fighting with one hand.
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### Author:  [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2022, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2313 "2022-03-14T17:57:08Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Unless Putin figures he’ll just hit bases in Poland with nukes and the west will just crumble. He’s fucked up every other decision in this, so why assume he’ll change course now? I’m afraid the result of this may well be a strike against Moscow, and any location where Putin might be.
Luckily Putin doesn’t personally the nukes. I hope if such an order was given that the guy with his finger on the red button would disobey the order. Even better would be if his superior officer disobeyed and never relayed the order down to the grunts who actually man the nukes.
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### Author:  [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2022, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2314 "2022-03-14T18:00:18Z")
> [@Capn\_Carl](#):
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> Also, he’s fighting with one hand.
But the other hand has a gun, and there are several people around them who also have guns.
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### Author:  [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2022, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2315 "2022-03-14T18:07:48Z")
If this metaphor gets any more tortured, we’re going to violate the Geneva Convention.
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### Author:  [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2022, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2316 "2022-03-14T18:08:50Z")
Even better if they push the red button and nothing happens because all the wiring between the button and the missile was stolen for repairs on all the megayachts.
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### Author:  [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2022, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2317 "2022-03-14T18:08:51Z")
Have you heard of [rope-a-dope](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rope-a-dope)?
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### Author:  [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2022, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2318 "2022-03-14T18:13:54Z")
I found an informative video on Youtube that should help explain things.
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8nC-RnETd0)
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### Author:  [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2022, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2319 "2022-03-14T18:23:59Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Unless Putin figures he’ll just hit bases in Poland with nukes and the west will just crumble. He’s fucked up every other decision in this, so why assume he’ll change course now? I’m afraid the result of this may well be a strike against Moscow, and any location where Putin might be.
Yes, strikes against Putin followed by… it’s the “followed by” part that really, really concerns me.
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### Author:  [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2022, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2320 "2022-03-14T18:31:16Z")
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