### Author:  [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2022, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2345 "2022-03-14T22:05:19Z")
> [@Velocity](#):
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> Does the UK get to seize his stuff just because anti-Russian sentiment is high? It’s like the law is being tossed out the window.
No.
You can find examples of the official EU documents enacting targeted sanctions against specific Russians at these links.
[https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A32022D0411&qid=1647294456502](https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A32022D0411&qid=1647294456502)
[https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A32022D0397&qid=1647294970546](https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A32022D0397&qid=1647294970546)
(I work in regulatory compliance in European finance. I have to read this kind of stuff all day long, so I’ve got these bookmarked. It’s super exciting, believe me. Anyway.)
The first followed the initial annexation of Ukraine in 2014. The second followed the invasion, extending and enlarging the original program. There are many other documents like these listing officials in Belarus and laying out in excruciating detail exactly which financial institutions and transactions are barred, which manufactured products are prohibited, and on and on.
You will observe these are not undirected shotgun blasts, like you seem to imagine: “if you’re a Russian with more than ten million euros, fuck you!” It’s not that at all. The operative documents name each individual person specifically, and include a short biography and a description of how each one’s actions support Putin’s regime. _These_ are the people whose yachts and airplanes are being seized.
There is, of course, some splash damage happening. If I’m your hypothetical Russian businessman in London, I am at zero risk of having my house, car, etc. seized. _However,_ depending on how I’ve stashed my money, it’s possible I’ll have trouble keeping payments current on these assets, or covering tuition for Aleksei Junior’s next term at his exclusive rich-boy academy.
Unfortunate? Maybe. But it seems perverse to me to wail in outrage at this as some kind of “injustice” given the larger context
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### Author:  [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2022, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2346 "2022-03-14T22:09:53Z")
Addendum: This, incidentally, is why it usually takes a couple of days minimum to get a program like this enacted. There’s a crisis, and people scream at the government, “Do something!” And they’re furious that a huge institution can’t magic up a sanctions regime in a couple of hours.
But if you look at these documents, you’ll see they are lengthy and detailed. This stuff takes _time_ to draft, review, and pass. You _could_ do the slapdash version where you just drop the hammer on every rich Russian everywhere, but that would be “throwing the law out the window” indeed.
These are not that. At all.
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### Author:  [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2022, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2347 "2022-03-14T22:12:00Z")
Thank, you @Cervaise for explaining the sanctions. I had wondered if every successful Russian was getting property taken.
It’s easy to forget there are still a lot of good people in Russia. Some are being arrested for speaking out against Putin.
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### Author:  [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2022, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2348 "2022-03-14T22:15:35Z")
Happy to share. My day job is reading endless pages of this junk, I might as well put that knowledge to use.
Along similar lines, here’s an excellent and thorough summary of the full sanctions regimes enacted by the US, EU, and UK. Very dry reading, but recommended if you want to understand the scope of what is — and is _not_ — affected.
> **[Taking Stock: A Survey of the New Russia Sanctions Landscape](http://www.cadwalader.com/resources/clients-friends-memos/taking-stock-a-survey-of-the-new-russia-sanctions-landscape)**
>
> Moscow’s invasion of Ukraine has – as promised by US President Joseph R. Biden and other world leaders – provoked “unprecedented” economic sanctions against Russia. The United States, the U... © Cadwalader
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### Author:  [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2022, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2349 "2022-03-14T22:45:43Z")
This is one brave woman. The tweet shows the Guardians front page. Marina is an editor and walked onto the set of a live show.
> [@](#):
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> Marina Ovsyannikova interrupted a Russian state TV broadcast on Monday evening by [shouting “No to war”](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/14/russian-tv-employee-interrupts-news-broadcast-marina-ovsyannikova) and holding a sign that read “Don’t believe the propaganda. They’re lying to you here.” The poster also said, in English, “Russians against the war.”
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### Author:  [@Ruken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruken)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2350 "2022-03-14T22:50:13Z")
Russia is scaring some of their long-adversarial neighbors into playing nicer with each other:
> **[Turkey, Armenia Vow to Continue Normalizing Relations](https://www.voanews.com/a/turkey-armenia-vow-to-continue-normalizing-relations/6482730.html)**
>
> The 2 nations have no diplomatic relations and a closed land border
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### Author:  [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2022, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2351 "2022-03-14T22:56:12Z")
I didn’t want to believe Free Speech could be completely shut down. There’s so many social media platforms and news sites. It didn’t seem possible to deny information to the public.
Apparently none of that matters in Russia. They’re rapidly returning to State controlled Media and shutting off access to social media. 1984 all over again.
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### Author:  [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2022, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2352 "2022-03-14T22:57:10Z")
Love current USA policy of sharing (most) of what they know with the general public:
## Russia requests food assistance and other forms of aid from China during war in Ukraine
From CNN’s Kevin Liptak, Natasha Bertrand, Katie Bo Lillis, Kylie Atwood and Jennifer Hansler
Russia has requested both military and financial assistance from China amid the conflict in Ukraine.
Among the assistance **Russia requested was pre-packaged, non-perishable military food kits, known in the US as “meal, ready-to-eat,” or MREs** , according to two sources familiar with the matter.
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I think the Ukr. are taking notes here… 😉
also … China, can we pretty,pretty please get a full refund on your military tires …
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### Author:  [@nonacetone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nonacetone)
#### Post date: [March 15, 2022, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2353 "2022-03-15T00:34:06Z")
Pffffftttt. Just put him in a room with one (Or both. Doesn’t matter!) of the Klitschko boys, for about 5 minutes. They’d take care of things, quickly.
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### Author:  [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)
#### Post date: [March 15, 2022, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2354 "2022-03-15T00:40:35Z")
> [@Al128](#):
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> Among the assistance **Russia requested was pre-packaged, non-perishable military food kits, known in the US as “meal, ready-to-eat,” or MREs** , according to two sources familiar with the matter.
“Good news, comrades. We’ve sent for Chinese take-out!”
I’ve had both Chinese and Russian rations. The Russian is far superior, and it’s sub-standard.
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### Author:  [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)
#### Post date: [March 15, 2022, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2355 "2022-03-15T01:33:33Z")
It’s probably not that bad after a while.
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### Author:  [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)
#### Post date: [March 15, 2022, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2356 "2022-03-15T01:52:27Z")
The news about China is not great.
> **[China has already decided to send economic aid to Russia in Ukraine conflict,...](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/15/china-has-already-decided-to-send-economic-aid-to-russia-in-ukraine-conflict-us-officials-fear)**
>
> Jake Sullivan’s Rome meeting with Chinese counterpart left US officials pessimistic about steering Beijing away from backing Moscow
> China has already decided to provide Russia with economic and financial support during its war on Ukraine and is contemplating sending military supplies such as armed drones, US officials fear.
> The US national security adviser, Jake Sullivan, laid out the US case against Russia’s invasion in an “intense” seven-hour meeting in Rome with his Chinese counterpart, Yang Jiechi, pointing out that Moscow had feigned interest in diplomacy while preparing for invasion, and also that the Russian military was clearly showing signs of frailty.
> “The key here is first to get China to recalculate and re-evaluate their position. We see no sign of that re-evaluation,” said another US official familiar with the discussions. “They’ve already decided that they’re going to provide economic and financial support, and they underscored that today. The question really is whether they will go further.”
> Top of the Russian military shopping list in China are armed drones and various forms of ammunition, but any military transfers would not be straightforward.
> “Both sides understand that they don’t share common systems, and so that makes it problematic,” the official said. CNN reported that the Russian military is also asking for ration packs, underlining its severe logistical problems in a more prolonged and tougher conflict than it anticipated.
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### Author:  [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)
#### Post date: [March 15, 2022, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2357 "2022-03-15T02:26:19Z")
And China thinks this will encourage the world to buy it’s products?
I’ll go out on a limb and say nyet.
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### Author:  [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)
#### Post date: [March 15, 2022, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2358 "2022-03-15T02:34:44Z")
> [@Magiver](#):
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> And China thinks this will encourage the world to buy it’s products?
There’s a choice?
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### Author:  [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)
#### Post date: [March 15, 2022, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2359 "2022-03-15T02:36:08Z")
Resupplying Russia is a game changer. They could drag this war out for years.
Putin spent 1999-2009 in The Second Chechen War. I wouldn’t count on him giving up in Ukraine. Unless the miltary runs out of supplies.
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### Author:  [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)
#### Post date: [March 15, 2022, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2360 "2022-03-15T02:42:44Z")
Russia has been virtually cut off from the world with sanctions. The Second Chechen War will be looked back on with fond memories.
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