# Russia invades Ukraine {2022-02-24} (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** ukraine-invasion, breaking-news\ **Created:** [February 24, 2022, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037 "2022-02-24T08:30:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 128
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2022, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2541 "2022-03-16T18:58:34Z")
“Civil Mutiny” is an interesting turn of phrase. He’s elevated protest to a crime punishable by death. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2022, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2542 "2022-03-16T18:59:33Z")
I think it’s always been a crime punishable by death, in his mind. ---
**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2022, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2543 "2022-03-16T19:03:24Z")
I would REALLY like to hear about how that special op got pulled off. Maybe some day we’ll get the details. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2022, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2544 "2022-03-16T19:11:31Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > Putin: How long before we hear Tucker Carlson talking about how this idea of “self-cleansing of society” is terrific, and should be implemented here? ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2022, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2545 "2022-03-16T19:46:39Z")
There is talk of the US providing Switchblade drones to Ukraine. Those loitering munitions are much cheaper than Javelin but can also strike from much further range. ---
**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2022, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2546 "2022-03-16T20:05:51Z")
No longer just talk. Apparently some kind of $800 Million aid deal has been made which includes the very tactical scale Switchblade drones. [U.S. sending Switchblade drones to Ukraine in $800 million package - POLITICO](https://www.politico.com/news/2022/03/16/us-sends-switchblade-drones-to-ukraine-00017836) ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2022, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2547 "2022-03-16T20:24:13Z")
And this the drone wars begin. I just hope it does not go for 7 seasons. If I might be allowed to quote from the Clone Wars TV show: ### “The Cost Of War Can Never Truly Be Accounted For.” ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2022, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2548 "2022-03-16T20:32:55Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > If NATO starts a shooting war, even non-nuclear, then it gives ammunition to the “both sides bad” crowd around the world, some of whom are just waiting for that excuse. cue in D.T., a map and a sharpie … “_You know, i hear lots of people say …_” ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2022, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2549 "2022-03-16T20:39:39Z")
> [@scabpicker](#): > > I think it’s always been a crime punishable by death, in his mind. L’état c’est moi, and we all know what happened to that particular lineage. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2022, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2550 "2022-03-16T20:53:49Z")
> CORRECTION: > > > Paul McLeary @paulmcleary ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2022, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2551 "2022-03-16T21:21:12Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > Putin: > > [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FN\_XxHPVkAUu9q2?format=jpg&name=900x900](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FN_XxHPVkAUu9q2?format=jpg&name=900x900) > > [https://twitter.com/NickKnudsenUS/status/1504158042723532800](https://twitter.com/NickKnudsenUS/status/1504158042723532800) Putin is thinking about cleansing and purifying his country but he might wind up fomenting a civil war. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2022, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2552 "2022-03-16T21:33:35Z")
Stalin’s Great Purge murdered between 700,000 to 1.2 million Russians/Soviet people. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2022, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2553 "2022-03-16T21:36:25Z")
We can add another 3.9 million to Stalin’s total, due to his efforts in Ukraine. Great guy, Stalin. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2022, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2554 "2022-03-16T21:37:05Z")
Stalin and Putin both psychopaths. ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2022, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2555 "2022-03-16T21:40:54Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > Putin: Sounds like he’s getting ready for a Stalin style purge. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2022, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2556 "2022-03-16T21:42:09Z")
Putin is a piker compared to Stalin. Stalin was a real monster. Putin is a wannabe monster with delusions of relevancy… ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2022, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2557 "2022-03-16T22:00:50Z")
That’s probably an accurate statement. If you remember the last days in Berlin the SS tried to kill off people they deemed traitors. Kind of hard to drum up support when the gallows are surrounded by bombed out buildings. Putin might get away with a few executions before the sheer number of citizens respond in large numbers. He may end up killing himself in his billion dollar mansion bunker. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2022, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2558 "2022-03-16T22:07:27Z")
I think Stalin has a 50+% approval rating in Russia these days. One of my interns a few years back was from Kazakhstan and he had nothing but good things to say about Stalin. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2022, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2559 "2022-03-16T22:10:38Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > L’état c’est moi, and we all know what happened to that particular lineage. Après moi, le déluge. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2022, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/2560 "2022-03-16T22:17:33Z")
Latest report: additional 800 Stinger missiles, 2,000 Javelins and 100 Switchblades are headed to Ukraine now, courtesy of Uncle Sam [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037.md?page=127) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037.md?page=129)