# Russia invades Ukraine {2022-02-24} (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** ukraine-invasion, breaking-news\ **Created:** [February 24, 2022, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037 "2022-02-24T08:30:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/281 "2022-02-26T17:02:38Z")
> [@scabpicker](#): > > Germany just lifted the ban on shipping weapons manufactured by them to Ukraine. That frees up a lot of the weapons stockpiled in Europe, apparently. That’s great…really…but it’s too bad they didn’t do that like 3 weeks ago. It will certainly help, but it would have helped a lot more if it had been early enough to get the weapons into the hands of the troops who would be using them and some time to familiarize themselves with them before they had to do it in combat. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/282 "2022-02-26T17:03:42Z")
Yes, it would have been better, without a doubt. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/283 "2022-02-26T17:05:58Z")
Those seemed like disappointments that the US Army nonetheless muddled through. But will Putin accept any setbacks like a mature adult, like Grant after the first day at Shilo: “no matter, we’ll whip them tomorrow,” or will he ramp up and kill the civilians just to “keep his pimp hand strong?” ---
**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/284 "2022-02-26T17:06:12Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Logistics is one of those areas where it’s fairly easy to skim without any (immediate) noticeable effects. Yeah, it becomes a problem when you need a medical kit and what you find instead is a note that says _“What’s good for M & M Enterprises is good for the country.”_ ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/285 "2022-02-26T17:06:22Z")
I linked to a US Army staff college history upthread, and while I remember the US had serious issues during the invasion, I wasn’t aware that the advance was halted nearly a week. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/286 "2022-02-26T17:07:02Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > But this dude yesterday, who by all logic should be shitting his pants four times a day, just flat out told the USA when they offered to evacuate him “I need ammunition, not a ride.” He’s visiting troops on the front line. He is rallying his people in a defense that is probably doomed but is as stiff as anyone could have hoped for; the Ukrainians are fighting like legends. A COMEDIAN is probably going to die defending his country and he appears to know it and he is saying “Can’t lead from behind” and standing tall. I wish my country had statesmen like this. The man is a hero for the ages If nothing else, Ukraine is going to have a bumper crop of cultural heroes out of this. Zelensky, the garrison at Snake Island, Vitaly Volodymyrovych at the Henichesk bridge. Hell, even the Ghost of Kiev, even if he is fictional. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/287 "2022-02-26T17:13:36Z")
They certainly haven’t collapsed as some predicted early on. And their resistance seems to be firming up as things go. Early on it did look like the Russians were really driving hard, and that Ukrainian resistances was less than coherent. I think that Ukraine wasn’t mentally prepared for this attack as they should have been, nor were their pre-invasion planning what it should have been (based on what happened in those early stages), but I don’t think there is anything wrong with Ukraine’s and Ukrainians willingness to fight. And I think you are right…they will come out of this with a lot of cultural hero’s and icons, and probably a new sense of themselves as a country and nationality…assuming they come out of this at all. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/288 "2022-02-26T17:16:19Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > A COMEDIAN Ukraine has a comedian as president. We had a joke. (And a bad joke, at that.) ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/289 "2022-02-26T17:18:13Z")
When I read RickJay’s post with A COMEDIAN in all caps my thought was…Ukraine has one of the Watchmen as president! He’s going to fuck those Russians up, especially if he can get Dr. Manhattan on his side! ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/290 "2022-02-26T17:23:14Z")
I hope the RPG’s arrive within a few days. > [@](#): > > ## Germany approves export of 400 RPGs by the Netherlands to Ukraine > > **Germany** has approved the delivery of 400 RPGs to **Ukraine** by the **Netherlands** , Reuters reports. > > Germany has faced criticism for refusing to send weapons to [Ukraine](https://www.theguardian.com/world/ukraine) unlike other western allies. The approval marks a shift in policy. > > Reuters has the details from **Berlin** : > > > _“The approval has been confirmed by the chancellery,” a spokesman for the defence ministry said on Saturday. The RPGs come from stocks of the German military._ Live News feed from The Guardian. [Liz Truss says ‘nowhere left to hide’ for Putin allies – as it happened | Ukraine | The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/feb/26/russia-ukraine-latest-news-fighting-kyiv-zelenskiy-assault-putin-capital?filterKeyEvents=false&page=with:block-621a59618f08db56730fce4d#block-621a59618f08db56730fce4d) ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/291 "2022-02-26T17:29:26Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > See, that’s the brilliance of electing an actor > [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > > [@RickJay](#): > > > > A COMEDIAN > > Ukraine has a comedian as president. We had a joke. (And a bad joke, at that.) Ah, that is why you elected Reagan? But did you have to follow through all the way down to the Apprentice? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/292 "2022-02-26T17:47:34Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Dashboard cam footage of a Ukrainian motorist encountering a Russian tank that’s run out of fuel, with English subtitles. > > [x.com](https://twitter.com/aliostad/status/1497519061554630658) Just for kicks, here’s the transcript: **MOTORIST:** Are you guys broken? Broken down? **RUSSIAN:** Out of fuel. **MOTORIST:** Can I tow you back… To Russia? [laughter] **MOTORIST:** Do you know where you’re going? **RUSSIAN:** No, no… [inaudible] To Kyiv, dammit. F\_\_k off… What do they say on the news? **MOTORIST:** Well, while everything is on our side, yours and prisoners surrender well. Because the boys also do not know where they are going. And I asked the whole column, people like you. No one knows where they are and where they are going. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/293 "2022-02-26T18:19:57Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > **MOTORIST:** Can I tow you back… To Russia? Can I just say, that motorist is also bad ass? Even without fuel, that crew probably has enough weapons and ammo to really mess this guy up, but he doesn’t even hesitate to not only talk to them, but to _shit_ talk them. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/294 "2022-02-26T18:34:11Z")
Even if Ukraine runs out of bullets, they seem to have a bottomless cache of weaponized ridicule. That’s probably the best weapon against an egomaniac like Putin. ---
**Author:** ![Seanette](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/seanette/32/9139_2.png) [@Seanette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seanette)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/295 "2022-02-26T18:43:23Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > Even if Ukraine runs out of bullets, they seem to have a bottomless cache of weaponized ridicule. At the very least, worldwide respect for the Ukranian people has to be skyrocketing. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/296 "2022-02-26T18:52:51Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Can I just say, that motorist is also bad ass? Even without fuel, that crew probably has enough weapons and ammo to really mess this guy up, but he doesn’t even hesitate to not only talk to them, but to _shit_ talk them. I was thinking the same thing. But, holy shit, I’ve got to admire the big brass balls the Ukrainian people possess and wonder how they manage to walk anywhere with them. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/297 "2022-02-26T18:54:18Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > I’ve got to admire the big brass balls the Ukrainian people possess Ukrainians clang when they walk. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/298 "2022-02-26T19:14:05Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > the garrison at Snake Island I really hope “go fuck yourself” becomes a rallying cry. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/299 "2022-02-26T19:15:39Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > > [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > > > **MOTORIST:** Can I tow you back… To Russia? > > Can I just say, that motorist is also bad ass? Even without fuel, that crew probably has enough weapons and ammo to really mess this guy up, but he doesn’t even hesitate to not only talk to them, but to _shit_ talk them. That’s nothing. [Check out this video](https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2022/02/26/ukraine-civilians-block-russian-tanks-with-body-and-bikes-nr-vpx.cnn) of Ukrainians putting themselves in front of operating tanks to try and stop them. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/300 "2022-02-26T19:31:48Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > > [@Broomstick](#): > > > > See, that’s the brilliance of electing an actor > > > [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > > > > [@RickJay](#): > > > > > > A COMEDIAN > > > > Ukraine has a comedian as president. We had a joke. (And a bad joke, at that.) > > Ah, that is why you elected Reagan? But did you have to follow through all the way down to the Apprentice? I think the next point to be made is that Zelenskyy is a good actor… Actually, I know little about Zelenskyy. I do believe that Reagan’s acting background served him well in public speaking and “acting presidential”. I did not like many of Reagan’s politics or actions, but he even though he was at best a mediocre actor his skills did greatly assist his stage presence in front of a crowd or TV camera. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037.md?page=16)