# Russia invades Ukraine {2022-02-24} (Part 1)
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
**Tags:** ukraine-invasion, breaking-news
**Created:** [February 24, 2022, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037 "2022-02-24T08:30:03Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)
#### Post date: [April 27, 2022, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/5125 "2022-04-27T17:41:42Z")
> [@EllisDee](#):
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> No wonder Trump likes Russia so much. It sounds like they share similar taste.
This meme is getting old. [Trump opposed the gas pipeline to Germany with sanctions](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50875935) and encouraged them to build sea ports for natural gas ships as a backup. It was to prevent what just happened. Russian just cut of gas to Poland and Bulgaria. [It was Biden who lifted those sanctions.](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57180674).
I think it’s relevant to point out the political climate leading up to Putin’s invasion. Germany was still looking at going forward with Nord Stream 2 and the drop in sanctions by the US was certainly seen as a pro-Russian change of events.
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### Author:  [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)
#### Post date: [April 27, 2022, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/5126 "2022-04-27T19:00:24Z")
**Modnote** : A joke about taste (good or bad) does not warrant politicizing a breaking news story.
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I found it, [this was the second time in this thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine/960037/4865). Do not do this again as next time will be a warning.
Reminder to all, don’t politized this thread. Go find another thread in P&E or start a new one.
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### Author:  [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)
#### Post date: [April 27, 2022, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/5127 "2022-04-27T20:39:46Z")
How does Russia currently supply Transnistra? Do they truck in supplies from Moldova? Fly them in Berlin airlift style the long way, over the Black Sea and then over Romania and Moldova? By boat up the Dniester?
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### Author:  [@CaveMike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaveMike)
#### Post date: [April 27, 2022, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/5128 "2022-04-27T21:01:24Z")
> [@FlikTheBlue](#):
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> How does Russia currently supply Transnistra?
I thought this was an interesting question.
> [@https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transnistria](#):
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> One point of access for Russian soldiers travelling to Transnistria remains [Chișinău International Airport](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chi%C8%99in%C4%83u_International_Airport) and the short overland journey from there to Tiraspol. Over the years, Moldova has largely permitted Russian officers and soldiers to transit the airport on their way to Transnistria, though occasionally it blocked those that were not clearly identified as international peacekeepers or who failed to give sufficient advance notice. Chișinău Airport would likely only ever agree to the possibility of moving employees, officers, and soldiers of the peacekeeping forces. The passage of soldiers of the [14th Guards Army](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/14th_Guards_Army) would be illegal.
Looks like an hour drive from the airport to Tiraspol.
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### Author:  [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)
#### Post date: [April 27, 2022, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/5129 "2022-04-27T21:04:53Z")
> [@Folacin](#):
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> they can attempt to cast asparagus on the dastardly Nazis in Ukraine
Well, if they do that, the Ukrainians can probably get a nice side dish going in the oven.
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### Author:  [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)
#### Post date: [April 27, 2022, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/5130 "2022-04-27T21:13:11Z")
Within Transnistrian separatist-held territory is perhaps the largest ammunition depot in Eastern Europe:
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> The Cobasna ammunition depot has been referred to as one of the largest if not the largest ammunition depot in Eastern Europe and contains up to 20,000 tons of Soviet-era weapons from the 14th Guards Army of the USSR and also from the former states of Czechoslovakia and East Germany. Currently, it is guarded by around 1,500 Russian soldiers.
> **[Cobasna ammunition depot](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobasna_ammunition_depot)**
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> The Cobasna ammunition depot, formally the 1411th Artillery Ammunition Depot (Romanian: Depozitul de muniții de artilerie nr. 1411; Russian: 1411-й артиллерийский склад боеприпасов, romanized: 1411-y artilleriyskiy sklad boyepripasov), is a large ammunition depot located in the village of Cobasna. Legally and internationally recognized as part of Moldova as a whole, the unrecognized breakaway state of Transnistria controls the village and the ammunition depot and has denied access to internati
It’s about 2 km across the border from Ukraine.
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### Author:  [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)
#### Post date: [April 27, 2022, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/5131 "2022-04-27T21:17:45Z")
Putin addressed lawmakers in St Petersburg. His comments about the war are confusing. NATO has intervened in Ukraine since day 1.
I think strategic threats may include attacks inside Russia. The uncertainty of what Russia may do must be keeping International leaders up at night.
I can’t see any choice but continue supplying Ukraine with weapons. Otherwise the entire region is at risk.
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> > If someone intends to intervene into the ongoing events (in Ukraine) from the outside and creates unacceptable strategic threats for us, then they should know that our response to those strikes will be swift, lightning fast.
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> Russian troops would not hesitate to use the most modern weaponry, Putin said:
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> > We have all the tools for this — ones that no one can brag about. And we won’t brag. We will use them if needed. And I want everyone to know this.
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> > We have already taken all the decisions on this.
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### Author:  [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)
#### Post date: [April 27, 2022, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/5132 "2022-04-27T21:38:03Z")
Virtually no information in the link. Just what you can see in the preview. However it does have a Twitter video of an aircraft in a flat spin (but not hitting the ground).
> **[Russian SU-34 Blown Out of the Sky Near Kharkiv](https://sofrep.com/news/russian-su-34-blown-out-of-the-sky-near-kharkiv/)**
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> A video of a Russian Sukhoi Su-34 fighter-bomber aircraft spiraling out of control, apparently over Ukraine, made its rounds on social media yesterday.
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### Author:  [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)
#### Post date: [April 27, 2022, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/5133 "2022-04-27T21:52:14Z")
> [@aceplace57](#):
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> Putin addressed lawmakers in St Petersburg. His comments about the war are confusing. NATO has intervened in Ukraine since day 1.
Not only are they confusing they’re illogical. Putin doesn’t want to have any anti-Russian nations bordering Russia. O K… So you take Ukraine. That Leaves Poland bordering Russia. they’re certainly anti-Russian. He could keep grabbing countries until he gets the the Atlantic Ocean.
He needs to go. There is nothing sane about him.
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### Author:  [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)
#### Post date: [April 27, 2022, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/5134 "2022-04-27T21:53:19Z")
> [@aceplace57](#):
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> Russian troops would not hesitate to use the most modern weaponry, Putin said:
Maybe we can hope that means he’s not talking about nukes, since they aren’t exactly the most modern of weapons?
Yeah, it’s probably foolish to pretend that wasn’t what he was talking about. It’s still fun to sometimes take a statement like that as literal.
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### Author:  [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)
#### Post date: [April 27, 2022, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/5135 "2022-04-27T22:13:48Z")
> [@Magiver](#):
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> Not only are they confusing they’re illogical. Putin doesn’t want to have any anti-Russian nations bordering Russia. O K… So you take Ukraine. That Leaves Poland bordering Russia. they’re certainly anti-Russian.
Yeah, I think I and others pointed out that Putin doesn’t want NATO on his border – but that if he does take Ukraine, he’ll have NATO on his border!
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### Author:  [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)
#### Post date: [April 27, 2022, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/5136 "2022-04-27T22:27:33Z")
> [@FlikTheBlue](#):
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> Maybe we can hope that means he’s not talking about nukes, since they aren’t exactly the most modern of weapons?
Maybe Putin is talking about weapons that his defense staff have told him they have, but actually they spent the money on yachts?
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### Author:  [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)
#### Post date: [April 27, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/5137 "2022-04-27T22:50:44Z")
Yachts with lasers?
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### Author:  [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)
#### Post date: [April 27, 2022, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/5138 "2022-04-27T22:55:50Z")
> [@Magiver](#):
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> He could keep grabbing countries until he gets the the Atlantic Ocean
Him and what army?
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### Author:  [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)
#### Post date: [April 27, 2022, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/5139 "2022-04-27T23:26:09Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Him and what army?
The one his generals are telling him that he has 🤪.
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### Author:  [@Seanette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seanette)
#### Post date: [April 27, 2022, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/5140 "2022-04-27T23:30:36Z")
> [@FlikTheBlue](#):
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> The one his generals are telling him that he has 🤪.
What generals, the ones in his head?
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### Author:  [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)
#### Post date: [April 27, 2022, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/5141 "2022-04-27T23:32:06Z")
> [@Seanette](#):
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> What generals, the ones in his head?
Maybe these guys?
> **[List of Russian generals killed during the Russian invasion of Ukraine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Russian_generals_killed_during_the_2022_invasion_of_Ukraine)**
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> A number of Russian general officers\[a\] have been killed during the Russian invasion of Ukraine. As of 28 November 2023, Ukrainian sources claimed that 16 Russian generals and 1 admiral had been killed during the invasion, while Russian sources have confirmed 7 deaths. Although seven of the Ukrainian claims were rebutted, the loss of even two general officers is rare. The scale of these losses is unprecedented since World War II. This has been attributed to Russian senior commanders goin Russi...
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### Author:  [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)
#### Post date: [April 27, 2022, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/5142 "2022-04-27T23:37:23Z")
it is starting to look like Russia is in need of lebensraum
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### Author:  [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)
#### Post date: [April 27, 2022, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/5143 "2022-04-27T23:40:31Z")
> [@Velocity](#):
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> There’s a photo going viral of a Russian tank turret that’s been blown off by an antitank weapon and now resembles a skull.
My \*first reaction was “photoshopped,” but apparently this is a thing that Russian tanks have been known for:
> **[Russia’s tanks in Ukraine have a ‘jack-in-the-box’ design flaw | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/27/europe/russia-tanks-blown-turrets-intl-hnk-ml/index.html)**
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> Russian tanks with their tops blown off are just the latest sign that Russia’s invasion of Ukraine isn’t going to plan.
\*To give myself a little credit, my somewhat delayed second reaction was “but then again, the faintly visible impressions in the ground look just right, so maybe… legit? I mean, gosh, it’d have to be a magazine explosion or something, but who would design a tank like that???”
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### Author:  [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)
#### Post date: [April 27, 2022, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/5144 "2022-04-27T23:54:25Z")
> [@ASL\_v2.0](#):
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> > [@Velocity](#):
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> > There’s a photo going viral of a Russian tank turret that’s been blown off by an antitank weapon and now resembles a skull.
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> My \*first reaction was “photoshopped,” but apparently this is a thing that Russian tanks have been known for:
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> [https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/27/europe/russia-tanks-blown-turrets-intl-hnk-ml/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/27/europe/russia-tanks-blown-turrets-intl-hnk-ml/index.html)
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> \*To give myself a little credit, my somewhat delayed second reaction was “but then again, the faintly visible impressions in the ground look just right, so maybe… legit? I mean, gosh, it’d have to be a magazine explosion or something, but who would design a tank like that???”
Unfortunately, doesn’t this mean that Ukraine has the same problem?
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