# Russia invades Ukraine {2022-02-24} (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** ukraine-invasion, breaking-news\ **Created:** [February 24, 2022, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037 "2022-02-24T08:30:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 26
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/501 "2022-02-28T09:39:34Z")
Peace talks are underway. > **[February 28, 2022 Russia-Ukraine news](https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-news-02-28-22/index.html)** > > The two sides agree to meet at the Belarus border Monday, Ukrainian President Zelensky's office says, as Russian President Putin put nuclear forces on alert. Follow here for live news updates from the ground in Ukraine. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b77776/32.png) [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_was_in_Saudi)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/502 "2022-02-28T09:44:49Z")
It is now just about noon in Ukraine, I just woke up here on the east coast of the US. There is no fresh news. No word about that column that was approaching Kiev last night. All in all, I am disappointed with the news coverage here in the US. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b77776/32.png) [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_was_in_Saudi)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/503 "2022-02-28T09:49:32Z")
Oh, the Russian central bank has raised their prime to 20%. That will leave a mark. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/504 "2022-02-28T09:52:07Z")
> [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](#): > > No word about that column that was approaching Kiev last night. CNN sez; > [@](#): > > The bulk of Russian ground forces are still more than more than 30 kilometers (about 19 miles) north of Kyiv, the UK’s Ministry of Defense said in a tweet on Monday. > > Russia’s advance was “slowed by Ukrainian forces defending Hostomel airfield, a key Russian objective for day one of the conflict,” the ministry said. ---
**Author:** ![GreenWyvern](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greenwyvern/32/2834_2.png) [@GreenWyvern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreenWyvern)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/505 "2022-02-28T10:10:01Z")
Russian losses so far, according to Ukraine: 5,300 troops (to be confirmed) 29 planes 29 helicopters 191 tanks 816 armoured fighting vehicles 291 trucks 60 fuel tankers 74 artillery pieces 21 Grad rocket launchers 1 Buk missile system. 5 anti-aircraft systems 2 vessels 3 drones ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/506 "2022-02-28T10:13:48Z")
Ukraine is releasing prisoners to fight at the front. [https://twitter.com/osint\_insider/status/1498235926983684099?s=21](https://twitter.com/osint_insider/status/1498235926983684099?s=21) ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/507 "2022-02-28T10:16:09Z")
Moscow Stock exchange will not open today. 😏 > Bets on if it will open this week? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/508 "2022-02-28T10:17:50Z")
> [@GreenWyvern](#): > > 5,300 troops (to be confirmed) In contrast, the total number of US casualties in the entire Iraq war was 4,431. They’ve lost more men in four days than we did in seven years. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/509 "2022-02-28T10:18:36Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > Moscow Stock exchange will not open today. Meanwhile, in Merrie Olde Englande; > ---
**Author:** ![GreenWyvern](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greenwyvern/32/2834_2.png) [@GreenWyvern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreenWyvern)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/510 "2022-02-28T11:16:47Z")
Excellent [live map](https://liveuamap.com/) of the conflict - Clickable map, with events shown day by day - Sidebar with a live news feed, pics, videos, etc. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/511 "2022-02-28T11:16:47Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Russian soldiers temporarily left their MT-LB amphibious armored vehicle on a dirt road. Local villagers hooked it up to a tractor and towed it away! The Russians tried to chase them down but failed. (video at Twitter link) > > [https://t.co/78ay0Jh9yA](https://t.co/78ay0Jh9yA) I’m skeptical of that one… the strongest farm tractors can pull about 8 tons, and an MT-LB weighs about 13 tons. Could be a YouTube stunt with someone driving inside. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/512 "2022-02-28T11:23:30Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > Could be a YouTube stunt with someone driving inside. “Alright, we’re gonna need a tractor and driver, a Russian amphibious armored vehicle and driver, an extra in a Russian uniform, and a cameraman who speaks Ukrainian. It’s gonna be for a 7-second video we’re going to post anonymously and unmonetized. We have no budget and it has to be ready by tomorrow.” Sounds plausible enough to me. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/513 "2022-02-28T11:28:17Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > “Alright, we’re gonna need a tractor and driver, a Russian amphibious vehicle and driver, an extra in a Russian uniform, and a cameraman who speaks Ukrainian. It’s gonna be for a 7-second video we’re going to post anonymously and unmonetized. We have no budget and it has to be ready by tomorrow.” > > Sounds plausible enough to me. Aren’t your suspicions aroused that this is only cropped to the 7 seconds of the funny part, not what happens before or after? That kind of stuff has been flying around Reddit for ages. Could be 3 days old, could be 3 years old. As I said, those things are like 50% heavier than the towing capacity of a very large farm tractor. At a minimum, if this is real, there’s an accomplice inside (armored vehicles aren’t hard to drive under normal road conditions). First rule of wartime reporting… everyone’s lying because everyone has a motive. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/514 "2022-02-28T11:32:43Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > Could be 3 days old, could be 3 years old. Did they know three years ago that the Russians would be painting Z’s on their tanks when they invaded Ukraine? It has to be contemporary. ---
**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/515 "2022-02-28T11:42:39Z")
TASS - the Russian state news agency - has been hacked (or maybe they got fed up): > **[Russia State-Owned News Site Tass Hacked With ‘Putin Makes Us Lie’ Message](https://www.thedailybeast.com/tass-site-hacked-with-putin-makes-us-lie-message?via=twitter_page)** > > The Tass site was replaced with an anti-Putin and anti-war message early Monday. > We urge you to stop this madness, do not send your sons and husbands to certain death. > > Putin is forcing us to lie. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/516 "2022-02-28T11:44:08Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > She should still push it. Republicans need to know that Trump supports the enemy. Oh, they know it good and well. They need their noses rubbed in it, firmly and often. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/517 "2022-02-28T11:47:32Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > The value of the ruble has dropped under 1 cent USD. > [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](#): > > Oh, the Russian central bank has raised their prime to 20%. That will leave a mark. Putin can’t bring back the Soviet Union, but he can bring back bread lines. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/518 "2022-02-28T11:55:10Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Putin can’t bring back the Soviet Union, but he can bring back bread lines. In Europe, America and Asia as well. They (and Ukraine) are big agri producers. Commodities prices ae going to skyrocket. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/519 "2022-02-28T12:01:09Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Did they know three years ago that the Russians would be painting Z’s on their tanks when they invaded Ukraine? It has to be contemporary. My understanding is Russian tanks and military vehicles have ‘Zs’ painted on them only because Moscow’s Z-Rock radio station has a wacky contest running right now: just paint a Z on any vehicle, drive it to Kyiv, take a selfie to prove it, and you win a pair of tickets to see Taylor Swift! ---
**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/520 "2022-02-28T12:02:27Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > Sorry, it’s historically been a strange arrangement between France and NATO. I’ve always thought of them as independently in alignment. It was (and possibly still is but I don’t know) a situation in which they were in NATO politically, but not militarily, or vice versa. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037.md?page=25) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037.md?page=27)