# Russia invades Ukraine {2022-02-24} (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** ukraine-invasion, breaking-news\ **Created:** [February 24, 2022, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037 "2022-02-24T08:30:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 269
**Author:** ![mjmartin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3d9bf3/32.png) [@mjmartin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mjmartin)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/5425 "2022-05-05T18:08:42Z")
Ha! Good catch. ---
**Author:** ![mjmartin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3d9bf3/32.png) [@mjmartin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mjmartin)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/5426 "2022-05-05T18:11:18Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > The Russians didn’t target the US Secretary of defense Lloyd Austin during his visit. The Russians and the Americans aren’t at war. The Ukrainian Secretary of Defense (or the equivalent) is doubtlessly on Putin’s hit list. ---
**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/5427 "2022-05-05T18:15:05Z")
> [@mjmartin](#): > > > [@PhillyGuy](#): > > > > there is a rank ceiling – Lieutenant General – above which the U.S. won’t pass on the location of a Russian general). > > I can’t understand the justification for having a rank ceiling. Here’s my totally wild guess,( based on no information) The US doesn’t target the very highest ranking generals because they are the ones who have authority over the nukes. Killing them would mean that Putin himself would demand control of the launch codes. Unlike Putin, the generals are presumably still capable of rational thought. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/5428 "2022-05-05T18:22:48Z")
Putin attempts to clean up Lavrov’s mess: > ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/5429 "2022-05-05T19:00:30Z")
Lavrov may be feeling very uncomfortable right now. You don’t make the Boss have to call to apologize. ---
**Author:** ![Sauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@Sauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sauron)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/5430 "2022-05-05T20:16:56Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > Lavrov may be feeling very uncomfortable right now. You don’t make the Boss have to call to apologize. I just KNEW I had to be reading something wrong, somewhere, because the reports I was seeing of Lavrov’s comments were imbecilically outlandish. But no, he really said this: > [@Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov](#): > > “For a long time now we’ve been hearing the wise Jewish people say that the biggest anti-Semites are the Jews themselves.” I mean … how does ANYONE, much less your chief diplomat, _ **say** _ stuff like this? ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/5431 "2022-05-05T20:29:54Z")
Well, he’s been given the impossible task of trying to persuade the world that the Jewish Zelenskyy is a Nazi. The Russians accompany this with claims that the Ukrainian president is a drug addict. Here’s a doctored video showing Zelenskyy with an added pile of cocaine: > ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/5432 "2022-05-05T21:06:11Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > Lavrov may be feeling very uncomfortable right now. You don’t make the Boss have to call to apologize. [Woody Guthrie - So long it’s been good to know you - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqiblXFlZuk) ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/5433 "2022-05-05T21:15:44Z")
> [@Sauron](#): > > > [@JRDelirious](#): > > > > Lavrov may be feeling very uncomfortable right now. You don’t make the Boss have to call to apologize. > > I just KNEW I had to be reading something wrong, somewhere, because the reports I was seeing of Lavrov’s comments were imbecilically outlandish. But no, he really said this: > > > [@Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov](#): > > > > “For a long time now we’ve been hearing the wise Jewish people say that the biggest anti-Semites are the Jews themselves.” > > I mean … how does ANYONE, much less your chief diplomat, _ **say** _ stuff like this? Technically, “semitic” is not strictly a synonym for “jewish”. There are Semites in the region who are Muslims. Hence, one could argue that the Israeli government has exhibited anti-semitic behavior in its treatment of the arabic Palestinians. Yet, to apply that label in a general way is clearly incorrect, since they treat another semitic group favorably. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/5434 "2022-05-05T21:28:05Z")
Now I want to paint “black magic” sigils just to f\*\*\* with the Russians. > [@Cardigan](#): > > How are Russian forces equipped in terms of their Anti-Occult capabilities? Is Ukraine receiving any Supernatural assistance from NATO? Pretty sure we can get the Satanic Temple/Church of Satan folks to kick in for this. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/5435 "2022-05-05T21:32:03Z")
> [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](#): > > Any bets on the Victory Day parade and speech? > > Double down? Declare victory and pull out? Car bomb? Cancellation? As long as it doesn’t involve a nuclear warhead being used I sort of don’t care. > [@aceplace57](#): > > The Soviets did an excellent job building the bunkers under the steel works plant. > [@Machine\_Elf](#): > > What was the original purpose of that underground network? Defense against a nuclear attack. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/5436 "2022-05-05T21:49:33Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Technically, “semitic” is not strictly a synonym for “jewish”. There are Semites in the region who are Muslims. Hence, one could argue that the Israeli government has exhibited anti-semitic behavior in its treatment of the arabic Palestinians. Yet, to apply that label in a general way is clearly incorrect, since they treat another semitic group favorably. Technically, you’re wrong. “Semitic” may have multiple meanings, but “anti-Semitic” only has one. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/5437 "2022-05-05T21:54:14Z")
So, is that argument anti-semantic? ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/5438 "2022-05-05T22:19:40Z")
😡 That was terrible. 😆 ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/5439 "2022-05-05T22:21:27Z")
I suppose in something this appalling we’ll take our levity where we can find it… Meanwhile, the thing with “Black Magic Sigils” at first seems ridiculous then I remember that here in the good ol’ US of A we have a load of people who fall for Satanic Panics every so often… ---
**Author:** ![Seanette](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/seanette/32/9139_2.png) [@Seanette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seanette)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/5440 "2022-05-05T22:30:15Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > Lavrov may be feeling very uncomfortable right now. You don’t make the Boss have to call to apologize. I’m wondering if he’ll ever be seen again, or if he’s now an unperson. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/5441 "2022-05-05T22:32:38Z")
“Who?” ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/5442 "2022-05-05T22:42:05Z")
Mr. Foreign Minister, you are acheduled to accompany the II Corps Deputy Chief of Staff and the Commander of the 123rd Division to a tour of the staging grounds, that we just made a public announcement about… ---
**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/5443 "2022-05-05T23:42:54Z")
👏 👏 👏 ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2022, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/5444 "2022-05-06T01:52:21Z")
To put this in perspective: by my calculation, in the last two months Russia has lost a proportion of its population equal to around 88% of what the US lost in the entire Vietnam war. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037.md?page=268) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037.md?page=270)