# Russia invades Ukraine {2022-02-24} (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** ukraine-invasion, breaking-news\ **Created:** [February 24, 2022, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037 "2022-02-24T08:30:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 31
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/601 "2022-02-28T22:48:46Z")
> [@JaneDoe42](#): > > If I drank in bars, I’d want to drink in the bars that are boycotting Russian Vodka. I thought that was cool, then considered I might have to give up Smirnoff. But apparently, although the brand was started in Moscow, it’s now owned and produced by a British company, so no need. 👍 (Not that I drink it often, just every now and then.) ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/602 "2022-02-28T23:00:16Z")
Both my Vodkas are US. Laird’s is a NJ made one, in fact a Monmouth County Distiller (oldest distiller in the US in fact.) The other is a better Vodka and from Kentucky. Laird’s is good for mixed drinks like White Russians where the Vodka doesn’t matter. The other is the one to drink or to be used in mixed drinks where the Vodka does matter. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/603 "2022-02-28T23:01:15Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > The other is a better Vodka and from Kentucky. I like my Kentucky bourbon, I’m sure their vodka is good too. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/604 "2022-02-28T23:21:26Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > Damn! I hope this all cleared up by Christmas so we don’t all have to boycott _The Nutcracker_ . Find a performance of the Hopak instead! https://www.youtube.com/embed/VByNuaE_CT0?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque&list=RDVByNuaE_CT0&start=62 ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/605 "2022-02-28T23:23:12Z")
Them’s good eatin’! > ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/606 "2022-02-28T23:23:13Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Both my Vodkas are US. As with most booze, I use vodka very sparingly so I don’t mind springing for slightly pricier stuff. [Hangar 1](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hangar_1_Vodka) is reasonably local to me (I lived in Alameda in a past life) and you can’t go wrong with even the straight stuff as artisanal vodkas go (plenty of reviews online). You just have to pay for the privilege 😉. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/607 "2022-02-28T23:23:59Z")
I am not confident that Frontline Videos is a reliable source. [https://frontlinevideos.com/russian-su-25-frogfoot-hit-by-manpads-while-delivering-airstrike/](https://frontlinevideos.com/russian-su-25-frogfoot-hit-by-manpads-while-delivering-airstrike/) > A recent video uploaded by the YouTube channel Funker530, it looks like a Russian SUV 25 Frogfoot ground-attack aircraft is seen being hit in the beginning of the video by a portable air defense system. However, it also seems that the plane was able to get off shots to its target and fly off. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/608 "2022-02-28T23:26:31Z")
> [@ZipperJJ](#): > > > [@JaneDoe42](#): > > > > If I drank in bars, I’d want to drink in the bars that are boycotting Russian Vodka. > > The whole state of Ohio is refusing purchases & sales of Russian-made vodka Here in Ontario, where liquor is sold only through the network of government liquor stores, the premier announced three days ago that Russian-made vodka and other Russian products have been pulled from the shelves. As already mentioned, most vodkas with Russian names are actually domestic product, so there’s not really that much Russian product, but every little bit helps. Interestingly, the Liquor Control Board of Ontario is the largest single purchaser of alcoholic beverages in the world, so this move is not insignificant, either. The LCBO sold $7.18 billion worth of alcoholic beverages in the last fiscal year. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/609 "2022-02-28T23:31:27Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > The LCBO sold $7.18 billion worth of alcoholic beverages in the last fiscal year. That’s almost CDN$500 for every man, woman, and child in the province. ---
**Author:** ![whitetho](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whitetho/32/1059_2.png) [@whitetho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whitetho)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/610 "2022-02-28T23:33:29Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > [https://twitter.com/nexta\_tv/status/1498409763171885062](https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1498409763171885062) There was an old Soviet era joke, where the Soviet general loudly claims his U.S. counterpart is lying about the number of calories in the U.S. rations, because “Nobody can eat a whole bag of potatoes by himself!” ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/611 "2022-02-28T23:33:34Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Them’s good eatin’! Total coincidence I’m sure but the first posting Steve1989MreInfo has had in months is a Ukranian 24-hr ration. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/ID_eFoIemjU/maxresdefault.jpg "2021 Ukrainian 24 Hour Field Ration Review Pork Tushonka & Kasha MRE Meal Ready to Eat Tasting Test") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID_eFoIemjU) ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/612 "2022-02-28T23:41:55Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Total coincidence I’m sure but the first posting Steve1989MreInfo has had in months is a Ukranian 24-hr ration. Not me. (As it happens, my usual weekly boardgaming and music get-togethers in the bygone B.C. (Before Covid) era typically had at least two other "Steve"s each…) ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/613 "2022-02-28T23:44:14Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > > [@wolfpup](#): > > > > The LCBO sold $7.18 billion worth of alcoholic beverages in the last fiscal year. > > That’s almost CDN$500 for every man, woman, and child in the province. Around $479 or so, yes. Does that seem like a lot (per year)? Heck, I spent about $250 on wine and liquor just last Saturday! The figure is gross income from the latest annual report, **[here](https://www.lcbo.com/content/dam/lcbo/PDFs/AnnualReport/LCBO%20FY2021%20ANNUAL%20REPORT%20-%20FINAL%20ENGLISH%20-%20AODA%20COMPLIANT.pdf)** (PDF). ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/614 "2022-02-28T23:50:15Z")
It doesn’t really show what the food is. I was curious. Also, wow, that guy’s knife is dull!! I wonder if the video is “real”? I’m guessing there will be a lot of fake videos posted by parties on every side. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/615 "2022-02-28T23:50:37Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Does that seem like a lot (per year)? I make no judgements. I don’t know. It might be a lot of the children. (FWIW, it’s about five weeks’ worth of wine in this house.) ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2022, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/616 "2022-02-28T23:56:35Z")
A huge convoy of Russian killing power is heading to Kiev. Only 40 miles away. Its time to blow bridges and mine the highways. Place hidden roadside IED’s at intersections. It worked for the Iraq insurgency against US forces. Any vehicles on the roads should be considered hostile targets. Kiev is in for a meat grinder if this convoy isn’t stopped or at least slowed down. > **[Russian convoy of ground forces, tanks moving toward Kyiv, Maxar says](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-convoy-ground-forces-fuel-tanks-moving-toward-kyiv-maxar-2022-02-27/)** > > Satellite imagery taken on Sunday showed a large deployment of Russian ground forces including tanks moving in the direction of the Ukrainian capital Kyiv from approximately 40 miles (64 km) away, a private U.S. company said. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/617 "2022-03-01T00:30:22Z")
> Ukrainian [United Nations](https://theweek.com/russo-ukrainian-war/1010659/russia-vetoes-un-resolution-condemning-ukraine-invasion) Ambassador Sergiy Kyslytsya [read](https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1498323215621533698?s=20&t=ShM9_MJLvLc8jatOTecZtQ) text messages between a fallen Russian soldier and the soldier’s mother [in front of the U.N. General Assembly](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEuwZoDsJ_M) on Monday. > > Kyslytsya did not identify the soldier or explain how he obtained the screenshot, though he did say the messages were sent only “several moments” before the soldier was killed. > ['Mama, this is so hard': Read the final messages between a fallen Russian soldier and his mother](https://www.yahoo.com/news/mama-hard-read-final-messages-201610726.html) MOTHER: Why has it been so long since you responded? Are you really in training exercises? SON: Mama, I’m no longer in Crimea. I’m not in training sessions. MOTHER: Where are you then? Papa is asking whether I can send you a parcel. SON: What kind of a parcel, Mama, can you send me? MOTHER: What are you talking about? What happened? SON: Mama, I’m in Ukraine. There is a real war raging here. I’m afraid. We are bombing all of the cities together, even targeting [civilians](https://theweek.com/russo-ukrainian-war/1010709/video-shows-russian-troops-shelling-apartment-buildings-as-battle-for). We were told that they would welcome us, and they are falling under our armored vehicles, throwing themselves under the wheels and not allowing us to pass. They call us fascists. Mama, this is so hard. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/618 "2022-03-01T01:12:11Z")
Well that bent the needle on my BS meter. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/619 "2022-03-01T01:33:31Z")
In the immortal words of Lt. Col. Henry Blake: “The first casualty of War is Truth.” ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2022, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/620 "2022-03-01T01:38:39Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > though he did say the messages were sent only “several moments” before the soldier was killed. Perhaps the soldier should have been paying attention to the war instead of his cellphone. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037.md?page=30) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037.md?page=32)