# Russia invades Ukraine {2022-02-24} (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** ukraine-invasion, breaking-news\ **Created:** [February 24, 2022, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037 "2022-02-24T08:30:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 315
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/6345 "2022-06-23T15:32:13Z")
No doubt. But I know nothing about quadcopters or how to modify them with a ‘bomb bay’ Of course the simple tub-and-grenade weapon would work on either as long as weight-and-balance is figured out on the design. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/6346 "2022-06-23T15:54:25Z")
I’ve been watching the equipment lists for any Q-UGVs. They can carry supplies on the battlefield. They are also useful for patroling perimeters. Sensors detect movements. I’m not sure if the electronics is old enough to use on the battlefield. I think Russia and China have already copied the design? I think they have something similar. > **[Here Is What The Air Force's New Robot Dogs Are Actually Capable Of](https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/38000/here-is-what-the-air-forces-new-robot-dogs-are-actually-capable-of)** > > The Air Force is officially putting robot dogs into operational use. Here's how they will be used today and how they will likely be used tomorrow. > [@](#): > > In a [USAF press release](https://www.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/2413766/computerized-canines-to-join-tyndall-afb/) last month announcing Tyndall’s acquisition of the Ghost Robotics Q-UGVs, Air Force Major Jordan Criss, the 325th Security Forces Squadron’s commander, said that the robot dogs would patrol a predetermined path and would be monitored by a non-commissioned officer throughout their patrol. “These dogs will be an extra set of eyes and ears while computing large amounts of data at strategic locations throughout Tyndall Air Force Base,” Criss said. “They will be a huge enhancement for our defenders and allow flexibility in the posting and response of our personnel.” > Criss added that the dogs would be able to patrol areas that “aren’t desirable for human beings and vehicles” and would even be able to be operated by personnel wearing virtual-reality headsets. “We will be able to see exactly what the robot dog is detecting through its mobile camera and sensor platform [and] if desired, we will also be able to issue verbal commands to a person or people through a radio attached to the dogs.” ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/6347 "2022-06-23T16:02:35Z")
The US is sending a robot dog to Ukraine. > [This](https://twitter.com/AE_Holman1958/status/1539578182751252480) is what a robot dog army would look like. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/6348 "2022-06-23T16:04:23Z")
Good boy Spot. Shoot that Russian in the ass. 😉 I thought EOD used smaller and cheaper robots? Spot is pretty expensive to risk on bombs and mines. But he’ll get the job done. **EOD police robot** [![](https://icortechnology.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/CALIBER%C2%AE-T5-SWAT-EOD-Robot-Side-view.jpg) ](https://icortechnology.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/CALIBER%C2%AE-T5-SWAT-EOD-Robot-Side-view.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/6349 "2022-06-23T16:53:41Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > [This](https://twitter.com/AE_Holman1958/status/1539578182751252480) is what a robot dog army would look like. Those things freak me out for some reason, way out of proportion to what harm they could do. Just watching them all doing the same thing in unison is too weird. Send a pack of them towards me and I’d probably run all the way back to Moscow. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/6350 "2022-06-23T16:55:12Z")
> [@mordecaiB](#): > > I’d probably run all the way back to Moscow. ‘And I’m not even from Moscow!’ ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/6351 "2022-06-23T21:47:34Z")
I dunno, they may not be a menace. They could just be cheerleading. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Hw0-_hkY04A/maxresdefault.jpg "Japan Robots dance to cheer for baseball team at empty stadium due to virus") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw0-_hkY04A) ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/6352 "2022-06-24T02:25:06Z")
This is worse than It’s a small world. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/6353 "2022-06-24T02:34:15Z")
Latest US aid package - 23 June - $450 million. - Four High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems - 36,000 rounds of 105mm ammunition - 18 tactical vehicles to tow 155mm artillery - 1,200 grenade launchers - 2,000 machine guns - 18 coastal and riverine patrol boats - Spare parts and other equipment This is the second batch of 4 HIMARS. Ammunition is the Guided missile round - high precision/43 mile range. UK and Germany are sending total of 6 M270 MLRS launchers. Same missiles/rockets as HIMARS but with 2 pods of 6 rockets on the M270 vs. 1 pod of 6 on the HIMARS. The 105mm ammo matches up with howitzers from UK. > **[Ukraine Situation Report: Patrol Boats, More HIMARS In New U.S. Aid Package](https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/ukraine-situation-report-patrol-boats-more-himars-in-new-u-s-aid-package)** > > U.S.-supplied patrol boats could be a boon to Ukrainian forces operating on inland waterways and off the country's Black Sea coasts. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/6354 "2022-06-24T18:08:50Z")
This got Putin’s 🐐 🙂 > [@](#): > > - **A Ukrainian goat has been hailed a national hero after it triggered a string of Russian grenades around a hospital in Zaporizhzhia, injuring at least 40 Russian soldiers.** [The goat, who had escaped from a farm, is said to have headed straight for the boobytrap](https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/jun/24/russia-ukraine-war-zelenskiy-hails-eu-decision-russian-forces-encircle-troops-in-lysychansk-kyiv-officials-say-live-news?page=with:block-62b5e8608f0814a0d5d429ba#block-62b5e8608f0814a0d5d429ba) after Russian forces pinned grenades around the edge of a local hospital in the village of Kinski Rozdory. _Not a good Day for Putin_ [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/6IwqmezeSuQ/maxresdefault.jpg "Russian missile fails and 'boomerangs back at Russian troops'") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IwqmezeSuQ) ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/6355 "2022-06-24T18:45:46Z")
Slava Ukraian Goats. ---
**Author:** ![Seanette](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/seanette/32/9139_2.png) [@Seanette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seanette)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/6356 "2022-06-24T18:49:49Z")
Even Ukrainian _livestock_ are hauling around some massive brass spheres. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/6357 "2022-06-24T19:12:14Z")
Geez. An authentic missile own goal. That salvo fire and the large burst made me think thatay have been a rocket artillery battery that just counter-batteried itself. But probably not, since artillery rockets probably lack the maneuverability to 180. Any chance this is just a delightful fake? ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/6358 "2022-06-24T19:20:20Z")
Gift link for the first three clickers: > **[Subscribe to read | Financial Times](https://www.ft.com/products)** > > News, analysis and comment from the Financial Times, the worldʼs leading global business publication Ukraine is pulling out of Severodonestk (unless it’s another feint). ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/6359 "2022-06-24T19:29:59Z")
I’ve seen another view. It doesn’t double back and hit itself - it just looks like that from that angle. Still, it was a misfire, as it did not go where it was intended to, and there were reported casualties. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/6360 "2022-06-24T23:34:27Z")
Very informative video about artillery operations. Ryan is retired infantry. The video is collaboration with Ryan and a former artillery officer, Captain. I understand now why the Ukrainian crews needed training in Germany. He even explains at the end how crews load and fire the M777 howitzer. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Kux_4KGuj1w/hqdefault.jpg "How artillery works - Featuring the M777 Howitzer") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kux_4KGuj1w) ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2022, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/6361 "2022-06-25T02:24:11Z")
Ukrainian Minister of Defence: > HIMARS in action: > HIMARS accuracy compared with Soviet Grad: > The retired general approves: > > > Giorgi Revishvili @revishvilig ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2022, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/6362 "2022-06-25T03:18:49Z")
The spirit that animated early-WW2 American torpedoes still haunts militaries to this day… ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2022, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/6363 "2022-06-25T14:32:20Z")
It’s interesting that Ukraine’s accuracy is improving dramatically with HIMERS. Meanwhile, Russia’s artillery has been firing for over 120 days. The rifling in their artillery barrels has to be wearing out. Short 50 sec video explains the problem. Ryan is basing his comments on US Army standards. Russia can direct increasingly inaccurate fire with worn out barrels and still kill a lot of civilians. The barrels will eventually burn out and Russia will have to combat reset. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/WrTEZh4AT6o/maxresdefault.jpg "Are Russian Artillery Barrels at End of Life?") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrTEZh4AT6o) ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2022, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/6364 "2022-06-25T15:47:31Z")
Ship-sized artillery, 152mm (6-in) and up have replaceable liners. Is this true for land-based artillery as well? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037.md?page=314) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037.md?page=316)